ok, me and a couple friends is gearing up for a empy static. we plan to KI farm for cloris and glavoids.
i don't see much of any guides to PDT fell-cleaveing
so far i only have 28%
but when i finish my set i will have around
39%
(unless i feel like spending mindless days working on the +1-2% darkness earrings)
which even than id be around 41-43%
is 39% enough?
how much is too much if that's possible?
i know 50% is cap, what i mean is how much is enough to effectively do
fell-cleve farming
PDT- And Fell Cleve
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PDT- and fell cleve
is this including gear and atmas?
20~30% pdt- in gear should be plenty for fc. right now i do it in about 26 i think and i do just fine, just make sure to have phalanx2 on you and should be np. i find tacos + defender + protect5 also helps a bit, but could just be me since i know people who pull / cleave just fine with attk food lol. You can do it in just your normal DD gear, as long as you keep the mobs leveled down they wont kill you.
just gear
shantoto legs, dark rings x2 (6%,5%), nierenschutz, ruffian leggings, grim body, peaces i'm working on are twilight torque, darksteel mitts+1, metallon mantle, either fc it or blm burn it xD
cleaving in tahrongi canyon, you should be fine with -0pdt, with a competent WHM
i used to be fond of -pdt, but with the abundance of intense soothing lights, you should have mighty strikes and sekkanoki up for every pull, which, -should- pretty much destroy everything in sight. is it possable to get enugh to solo?
dureing day sea daughter is 20hp /tick regen mounted champ is 20hp /tick and toss in another PDT atma (considering FC dosnt crit) Unless you're a BLU, no. You're going to need some form of curing on WAR. On a side-note. If you're cleaving for KI's Cataclysm is probably better than FC. (Cata does more dmg than FC, etc.)
Bismarck.Danz said: » is it possable to get enugh to solo? dureing day sea daughter is 20hp /tick regen mounted champ is 20hp /tick and toss in another PDT atma (considering FC dosnt crit) sure, but you can't really solo cap your azure on war lol. ive gone solo a few times. think i went /dnc with sea daughter, mc, and visc. used defender and most of my TP towards CW3. let retaliation kill them all. couldnt withstand uber pulls, but 8 or so mandies seemed to work ok
On BLU you can solo cleave if you care about cleaving by yourself, also any *** that decide they want to cleave ontop of you or drive you out of your camp are easily disposed of on BLU.
If you are building an Emp tho I suggest just farming the NMs its much faster than cleaving for Key Items. You could solo with -DT and Regen Atmas, but it would mean having to Sub /DNC for those extra heals or having to deal with reduced amounts of enemies.
Last night I started FCing in Tahrongi for a set of Emps we are working on in that zone (1 Ukon for me in the mix :D). With this setup (-5PDT Rings): I can still stick to DD Atmas to efficiently pull (we lacked a puller, so lots of running) the full set of mobs (All bats or mandies or whatever you want to fight) at camp, 2h and either 1 shot them or 2shot them with /SAM , Sekkanoki and 2h. The gear you are working on is fine, but provided you have at least a RDM for Phalanx II you shouldn't even need that much if you are using a mix of DD / - DT / Regen Atmas. Bismarck.Danz said: » visc? Odin.Sheelay said: » You could solo with -DT and Regen Atmas, but it would mean having to Sub /DNC for those extra heals or having to deal with reduced amounts of enemies. Last night I started FCing in Tahrongi for a set of Emps we are working on in that zone (1 Ukon for me in the mix :D). With this setup (-5PDT Rings): I can still stick to DD Atmas to efficiently pull (we lacked a puller, so lots of running) the full set of mobs (All bats or mandies or whatever you want to fight) at camp, 2h and either 1 shot them or 2shot them with /SAM , Sekkanoki and 2h. The gear you are working on is fine, but provided you have at least a RDM for Phalanx II you shouldn't even need that much if you are using a mix of DD / - DT / Regen Atmas. Lately, as I've been cleaving I don't even need a PDT set for cleaving/pulling. :< Long as I have movement speed + on and I use my normal DD atmas on (I tend not to use MS since I normally have leeches who just key everything for me.) as long as the mobs aren't tough+ Fenrir.Uzugami said: » Lately, as I've been cleaving I don't even need a PDT set for cleaving/pulling. :< Long as I have movement speed + on and I use my normal DD atmas on (I tend not to use MS since I normally have leeches who just key everything for me.) as long as the mobs aren't tough+ I did use Hermes sandals on some pulls, but later on, after moving to bats as they freed up (they're better because they link so you don't have to chase after each mob and voke or hit it) I simply stopped caring. Speed or not, they would still get me. I did realize that with Phalanx II up I could probably loosen up on the pdt gear. Heck, add a WHM to the mix and you can just use FC WS gear. The one thing that makes a difference imo is having a puller and being able to use 2h chest whenever possible. It's so much better. Ok it's 2 things :P
This is the setup I use atm, though I don't cleave very often.
The Sumeru +2 is the WS DMG+10% one (so DMG:111, not 104). The Kabuto has Haste+1 PDT-2% augment, the Dark Ring is sadly only BDT-2% PDT-3%, and the ASA legs are PDT-4% Movement speed+8%. Improvements to be done would be replacing the pointless Warwolf Belt with Nierenschutz, Boxer's Mantle with Metallon Mantle, and the rings with better Dark Rings. (And maybe a PDT-5% Regen+1~3 augmented Osode... >_>) Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial said: » (And maybe a Grim Cuirass +1) yup also, should reaugment your blitzer with haste/-physical so you hit things 3% faster while you get bonked, since hermes' sandals takes care of the movement part; did it to mine when danzo sune-ate came out for samurai back at level eighty :D
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assuming your killing mandys/bats/easy things you can get by with very little (I had a war in ls do it with like 26%pdt back at 85 cap). Catacleaving is always an option in earth/terra's if you're that worried.
My current pdt set: WAR and DRK really need new PDT pants, this whole brown subligar thing is just not my style.
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Blitzers aren't subligars
Edit: and anyone that thinks any benefit gained from using augments for a different job is better than the benefit of not wearing a subligar has mental issues. METAL PANTIES FOR EVERYONE!
(using augments for lolrdm cure set eff you SE) I pull in 13% PDT + hermes sandals and never had a problem.. I really dont think you need an uber PST set to pull for AoE farming. Long as you have a WHM you should be able to do it in just about any gear you want, other than dusk.
I honestly prefer pulling than cleaving on WAR. I duo cleave with a BLU. He buffs himself while I pull.
WAR/DNC, 50% PDT, Viccitude/Mounted Champion/Stronghold We fight mobs that don't cast but aggro/link based on sound. Works very well. I can leave to sell on AH, NPC, etc, while he stays in the zone. i pull and cleave on WAR and have no problem without PDT/Regen atma on, i do 2 box a whm tho, but hermes relly makes a difference to pulling
dont have an items set bit here is what i pull in Code <head>Twilight Helm</head> <neck>Twilight Torque</neck> <body>Grim Cuirass</body> <hands>Dst. Mittens +1</hands> <lring>Jelly Ring</lring> <rring>Dark Ring</rring> <waist>Nierenschutz</waist> <back>Metallon Mantle</back> <legs>Inmicus Cuisses</legs> <feet>Hermes' Sandals</feet> and Cleave with this set(pretty much full out STR) Code <head>Twilight Helm</head> <neck>Lacono Necklace</neck> <lear>Centaurus Earring</lear> <rear>Bushinomimi</rear> <body>Grim Cuirass</body> <hands>Heafoc Mitts</hands> <lring>Rajas Ring</lring> <rring>Vulcan's Ring</rring> <waist>Beir Belt</waist> <back>Cerberus Mantle +1</back> <legs>Jingang Hose</legs> <feet>Jingang Greaves</feet> Atma i use is VV, Stout Arm, Harvester I self pull on war/sam no pdt just sandals for some movement speed with only a Whm i use vv rr and apoc no phal and never have any issues. i see pdt unless just a pull macro as fairly useless with a solid whm backing you up. in la thiene frogs are never an issue if you dont pull 100 and just stick with one sided pond pulls. the canyon i just do scorps can pull almost everyone no issues and then i usually do mandies in altepa again no issues with damage just learn to path the mobs so they follow but not to close i have a decent pdt set i could use from pld on war but just find it as wasted spaces for all those npcable gold box bs items for even more gils. I see alot of pdt cleaves and never understood why.
lol wrong char for above post sorry edit here. Asura.Kese said: » why not a war eva set? |
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