Yoichi Gear Sets

Sidewinder does 1-2% more damage then Namas (99bow) but comes with an ACC penalty. (11% more with 95bow) Refulgent has to be used at 200%+ TP to be equal to a 100tp Namas. (you said 300tp use refulgent but anytime over 200ish it does more damage)

Was more less giving him some general advice. It's amazing how many rng don't use ref, and I was just generalizing it to 100/300 from the use of wings

That's what I use for for Namas Arrow currently, I average about 3-4k on Provenance Watcher as well, depending on buffs.

Usually on Odin2 I get about 2-2.5k on Namas Arrow. Most of the content I use RNG for atm is Odin2/Legion. So the fixed hate and the Ranged Accuracy Aftermath are both very welcome bonuses. And at 99, I will easily get more damage off 2 100% Namas Arrows than 1 200% Refulgent Arrow.

And usually if I end up w/ over 200% TP b/c I have to hold damage for w/e reason it's usually on something where the lower enmity might not be that bad of an option. I'd rather do a few 100 damage less than pull hate in Odin2 or Legion.

What obvious reasons? TP Bonus does nothing for Namas Arrow and I only use Refulgent Arrow after popping a wing. The crit rate might be kind of nice but in most situations I take at most 2 shots between WSs so I'd rather have the attack from staff.

I use Slayer, Coercion, and Discipline. I need to swap out Discipline for Valiant.

Hey wakmidget I was checking out your tp and ws gear sets for ranger and just wanted to ask:
are these sets assuming /Sam or /war or do these sets work for either subjobs? Also do you need to be 5/5 recycle merits to get a 5 hit build while wearing the scouts beret +2 in your tp build set? Thanks for the info!

Just to shoot a question in this thread, as it seems kind of fitting:
How does Apex compare to sidewinder\namas\ref? (If anybody have actual numbers)

Slightly better than Namas on most things, in Legion for example ~2600 Apex average compared to ~2400 Namas average. This is including every mob in Mul, and both WS were used at least once on every mob.

I'm looking to keep my ranger up to date. Does anyone have any improvements for my Namas set? I don't play RNG too often so I feel like I may have overlooked something.

everything you have there is currently best in slot, aside the body for the obvious hexed-1 body, Tessera saio is perhaps better (definately better with velocity shot down, if you utilize a KC tp set or it gets dispelled and cant be put back up for abit) but with it up, I'm not sure, as I'm not really sure how much the AF3+2 boosts ranged attack through the velocity shot enhancement.

It seems to be an additional 5% ranged attack boost with velocity shot up so tessera won't even come close to beating sylvan. I'm completely unfamiliar with namas arrow sets in general, but because namas arrow is a single hit weapon skill, and there's no ftp transfer like with last stand, the elemental belt/gorget are probably not going to be the best choices. The new elanid belt looks nice (probably from new meebles), and you may want to do the math on ire torque +1 vs gorget.

Prosilio belt is something to consider as well.

Just to be clear /war rangers should always be main handing a dagger/axe correct? Seems some people are not getting this idea through their head and using lolvulcans staff.

At least I checked I was right on this.

Depends on hit build really, tp bonus does nothing for namas/coronach, so mekki shakki or some other STP weapon can be better potentially.

TP bonus no, but crit rate is why I always used it, as well as the 10str / 3% dmg from aluh.

Also if stp is needed then doing something wrong / could just use the stp4 axe and still gain crit rate

Depends on STP needs, knocking off a hit will always be better than 5% crit rate for example, especially when your concern is dealing the most dmg for the least amount of enmity generally speaking. (coronach/namas need only apply) I don't really ever see a reason for vulcan's staff though obviously, only arguing for the potential case of mekki/rose. I'm just saying there are certainly situations where using staff/rose would be more beneficial, as it opens up a lot of gear options for accuracy and whatnot. I don't know about yoichi builds, but annihilator needs a lot of STP for /war 4hit.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're best off using mekki/rose for anything that you can cap accuracy on with. You need the majority of your slots filled with STP gear to even manage with staff/rose. Excluding regain of course, can build around that if you have it.

I would like to see some recomendations for /WAR and /SAM x-hit builds for the bow, however im not sure if currently x-hit is so important if enywhere you take RNG you have embrava and regain roll on.

You overlooked having a Ybow instead of Anni <3

nice setups here, will use this thread as a reference for when I get my relic bow. Doing gun afterwards so I can have 2 good rng weapons. Cant wait t try out some of these sets.

Is it sad that when I saw this topic name I thought it was for Sam's?

nah that's normal lol. I'm gonna be using yochi for sam and rng but the general reaction i've been getting is "why rng?" lulz

You can't equip the Mandragora on your arm if you use a Staff... That's surely reason enough...

I was thinking about this too. I came up with this base set for a 5 hit with WAR sub.

Of course you can swap pieces the second you do get some regain but I like to plan out a "buffless" set as a baseline.

You only need 33 Store TP for 5 hit, you have 39 there. You're also missing the Janus guard which is kind of essential to being the best /WAR RNG possible.

That's not adding up right for me. I have 17.2 return on WS using rajas ring, axe, and chalmys. So I need at least 20.7 a hit. The set I posted is 20.9. That was as close to 20.7 I could get without going under.

omg aeyela lol

Ah, well I didn't consider weapon skill since you didn't post your WS set since I forgot you posted it. Still, my point about the Mandragora stands!

Me too...me too. But since I'm already here, I might as well post my sets to see what I should be changing

Both assuming /war

TP:


Namas:

The most important change you should make is dropping the staff for aluh jambiya. When using a one handed weapon you gain Fencer from /WAR sub but you won't gain it using a staff. If you need the 9 Store TP I recommend finding it in another slot or using carabinier's axe and someting else if you really can't find it anywhere else. Rancor Collar has all but been proved useless for Ranger so drop that for something more useful.

And of course, off hand you're looking at Janus guard when using a single handed weapon to augment the rest of your stats. Your weapon skill set looks pretty solid to me!

I'd have to look into what STP I'd need exactly, but I was thinking I needed Mekki+Rose. Maybe switching belt to goading? Like I said, I'd need to look into it.

When was rancor proved useless for ranger? I haven't really been on the forums for two months so I missed that somewhere.

Or the superior version:

Mandraguard.

Janus looks cute with the orange, though.