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Exenterator
Ragnarok.Xenophire
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By Ragnarok.Xenophire 2011-12-30 21:21:52
So, I use Breeze Gorget and Belt, right?
Ragnarok.Xenophire
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By Ragnarok.Xenophire 2011-12-30 21:32:42
I'm actually missing Breeze Sachet for my rainbow collection. \o\
Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2011-12-30 22:18:06
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By Foldypaws 2011-12-30 22:42:15
Satchel, Gorget, Belt...
Triple rainbow?
WHAT DOES IT MEAN!?!
Alternate Retro Joke:
Why are there so many gear sets of rainbows
and such different stats they enhance?
Rainbows are visions, but only illusions,
and rainbows leave nothing to chance.
So we've been told and some choose to believe it.
I know they're wrong, wait and see.
Someday we'll finish, the rainbow collection.
The taru, the elvaan and me.
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-01-15 15:39:58
After a bit (quite a bit) of drinking tonight I decided to make a set of all +AGI gear for DNC that was currently on the AH. Mostly aimed at people who aren't fortunate/able/willing to go get rare/ex drops, and would rather buy gear and/or if you're working for one piece, "stand-in" pieces for that specific piece. If I'm not mistaken, should be 74 72 (I was mistaken) agi right here.
Note: This is not my final "goal" WS gear set, just an idea of optimal AH able (that I could find, I am aware this webistes' archive is not 100% current which is completely understandable) AGI gear for DNC.
Stupid question here maybe, for stacking AGI purposes is there any difference in the AGI+3 from Drone Earrings and the AGI+3 from the Breeze Pearls?
By Solrain 2012-01-17 14:13:08
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
After a bit (quite a bit) of drinking tonight I decided to make a set of all +AGI gear for DNC that was currently on the AH. Mostly aimed at people who aren't fortunate/able/willing to go get rare/ex drops, and would rather buy gear and/or if you're working for one piece, "stand-in" pieces for that specific piece. If I'm not mistaken, should be 74 72 (I was mistaken) agi right here.
Note: This is not my final "goal" WS gear set, just an idea of optimal AH able (that I could find, I am aware this webistes' archive is not 100% current which is completely understandable) AGI gear for DNC.
Stupid question here maybe, for stacking AGI purposes is there any difference in the AGI+3 from Drone Earrings and the AGI+3 from the Breeze Pearls?
No difference other than one option costing you 295k over the other.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-01-27 05:13:00
Is this still the be all, end all WS for non-Twash dncs? I haven't really messed with it TOO much. I have it 5/5 and all I do on dnc is solo my currency for my Amano. I still find myself going PK >> Evis for darkness. Is there perhaps a better SC I can use for dnc, or is there a better use for this WS? I'm thinking about taking it down 5/5 in lue of another choice.
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-01-27 05:22:56
Is this still the be all, end all WS for non-Twash dncs? I haven't really messed with it TOO much. I have it 5/5 and all I do on dnc is solo my currency for my Amano. I still find myself going PK >> Evis for darkness. Is there perhaps a better SC I can use for dnc, or is there a better use for this WS? I'm thinking about taking it down 5/5 in lue of another choice.
I like it a lot personally (a non-twash dnc) I find myself using it mostly when I have 100TP and NFR isn't up and I am not doing something that step will help with (killing too weaks by the dozen for caskets) or if I am holding the steps for a just in case or something else. It is not usually the most efficient choice but it is nice to have a single WS option for when I don't want/need to skillchain.
Plus it is stylish as all hell and that gives it points in my book.
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Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-27 06:08:39
Enemy ACC-20 is pretty amazing.
Lakshmi.Byrth
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-01-27 06:50:43
My dats from the last patch are all glitched, so I look like a crazy spinning turkey when I Exenterator. Big grey rays come out of my back while I am spinning... I should really fix that.
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By Phoenix.Missescakes 2012-01-27 08:03:30
So I am curious if I may join you dancer's in this discussion but from a brds point of view ^^? Afterall without the song it is hard to dance, also with a dance the song becomes more alive~
If I may ... Here is my quesion: would this be ideal for brd Exenterator?
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/246005
a few things I have thought about are:
Calmecal leggings VS. Lithe Boots
Aife's Mantle VS. Atheling Mantle
Crudelis Belt VS Sveltesse Gouriz
Feedback is greatly Appreciated ^^/
Lakshmi.Byrth
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-01-27 08:13:05
AF2+2 body is going to be better than Osode.
Stick with Lithe, Crudelis, and Atheling.
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By Phoenix.Missescakes 2012-01-27 08:42:09
AF2+2 body is going to be better than Osode. Stick with Lithe, Crudelis, and Atheling.
derp >< ty I shoulda thought about Af+2 body was in my old dd brd set ^.^ tyvm I greatly appreciate your input /bow~
Lakshmi.Byrth
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-01-27 09:07:17
np, dawg! The +2 version gets 10 STR/etc, so it is even better than the NQ.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-01-27 11:30:50
Enemy ACC-20 is pretty amazing.
Ya, that's fine, but on stuff that matters (VW), you ride temps or have pld tanks with ochain these days, no? I have literally never used dnc yet in VW. I don't think the acc-20 really matters for just farming dyna coins, sadly.
Fenrir.Yuriki
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By Fenrir.Yuriki 2012-01-27 11:57:57
I friggin' love watching BRDs using Exen., especially in their normal song gear. Huge flashy animation, 200 dmg. :D
Been thinking about leveling BRD for the sole purpose of suiting it up in melee gear/my 90 twash. Really just for the lulz.
Asura.Myrrh
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By Asura.Myrrh 2012-01-27 12:05:51
DNC sucks.
Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-27 12:13:41
Enemy ACC-20 is pretty amazing.
Ya, that's fine, but on stuff that matters (VW), you ride temps or have pld tanks with ochain these days, no? I have literally never used dnc yet in VW. I don't think the acc-20 really matters for just farming dyna coins, sadly.
On stuff that matters, Exenterator is still going to (usually) be your most powerful WS.
You may have temps in VW, but people don't seem to realize, they do go down occasionally. Acc-20 is Hit Rate -10%. It only helps. Thing is, it sounds like you're not serious about your DNC, which means you shouldn't be bringing it to VW anyway, because unless you go all out, your performance will be lackluster.
As for Dynamis, ok it's nice that you can solo Darkness, but EPs barely survive Exenterator after a proc and vs. DCs, Exenterator is the difference between offhanding an Evasion dagger and offhanding an Attack dagger.
DCs have a better drop rate on everything, just as a note.
Bismarck.Altar
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By Bismarck.Altar 2012-01-28 22:43:03
Anguinus Belt/Prosilio beat out Windbuffet if acc capped?
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By Tandava 2012-02-27 18:16:00
I'm wondering why belt and gorget are not good for this WS? I'm not arguing that they would be good, I just want to know for knowledge's sake.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-02-27 18:33:53
Hume/THF AGI would put you at 145 with this set, 5 fTP with offhand.
Can assume 13 fSTR for something like dynamis, and probably around 1.75 cRatio.
So with Houyi's Gorget/Crudelis belt you'd have:
((47+13+(156*.85))*5)*1.75 = 1685
With gorget/belt:
((47+13+(145*.85))*5.2)*1.75 = 1667
Doesn't count any extra attack or fSTR from crudelis belt either. Gorgets just don't add a lot to Exenterator, and Houyi's/Crudelis are both easy/cheap to get.
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By Tandava 2012-02-28 10:14:39
Hume/THF AGI would put you at 145 with this set, 5 fTP with offhand.
Can assume 13 fSTR for something like dynamis, and probably around 1.75 cRatio.
So with Houyi's Gorget/Crudelis belt you'd have:
((47+13+(156*.85))*5)*1.75 = 1685
With gorget/belt:
((47+13+(145*.85))*5.2)*1.75 = 1667
Doesn't count any extra attack or fSTR from crudelis belt either. Gorgets just don't add a lot to Exenterator, and Houyi's/Crudelis are both easy/cheap to get.
Thanks, I understand now. I was already using a Houyi's/Crudelis, so good to know I made a good selection. :)
Siren.Bruno
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By Siren.Bruno 2012-02-28 11:07:39
I friggin' love watching BRDs using Exen., especially in their normal song gear. Huge flashy animation, 200 dmg. :D
I really don't think the 16 Dagger skill difference compared to DNC is gonna result in a 3k loss in damage. <.<
Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-28 11:10:04
Well, in their normal song gear (as Yuriki mentioned), yeah, it's going to be ***.
But BRD actually gets some pretty kick *** WS gear. I'm sure they could push it up there.
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Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-28 11:13:59
BRD does get hecatomb after all >_>
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By Tandava 2012-02-28 15:51:58
BRD does get hecatomb after all >_>
Sounds like a potential topic in the BRD forums. Have at it!
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2012-02-28 16:10:50
BRD does get hecatomb after all >_>
Sounds like a potential topic in the BRD forums. Have at it!
SORRY D:!
BRD does get hecatomb after all >_>
:p As a demo. Won't derail further.
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Sylph.Takitu
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By Sylph.Takitu 2012-06-16 14:45:47
4/5 (no body.. athos there..) thaumas is the best option for exe?
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Carbuncle.Pwnzone
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2012-07-21 08:11:24
This is what i use atm. Thanks to the very first post of this thread & Austar's math to make it easy to see, my light belt is going to be thrown out. Besides that, what other upgrades should i look into. Dont own Thaumas hands yet nor Myrmex *prays* & I use charis +2 over athos because im usually solo in dynamis. Would a +3 agi earring give me a better output than my ghillie & what would be a strong rep for my waist? Thanks in advance.
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