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Drk Resolution GS / Builds
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
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By Sylph.Hyunkyl 2013-03-19 16:16:12
Porthos byrnie only good for situationnal uses on BST...AF3+2,Ace's mail,Enif,Murzim,Armada or Valkyrie's bodies are all better ;)
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Ragnarok.Returner
サーバ: Ragnarok
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By Ragnarok.Returner 2013-05-08 14:26:00
Ok, time to think, what's the ideal Delve ready build with Beveaver?
Note that this set should feature lots of accuracy for both TP and WS. Thoughts?
Ragnarok.Evihime
サーバ: Ragnarok
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2013-05-08 19:23:02
Aiming to this for Delve acc:
TP LR Down (I always have marches/haste)/SAM 6 hit
ItemSet 300261
LR up switches feet with phorcys, head to Karieyh (goal should be Yoalotl w/e its called), waist to windbuffet, lring with Mars.
Resolution:
ItemSet 300262
Mekira oto in day proc (perfect on non day would be Yoalotl w/e again)
Imma start to get new delve ***when im done with THF stuff with plasmas (Missing kukri and done, to be honest Idk If I should ditch dat and start to get DRK gear)
Ragnarok.Returner
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By Ragnarok.Returner 2013-05-08 20:00:39
For WS, I would use Miki body fully augmented over phorcys for alot more accuracy. I am not sure if Ares gloves +1 are better than phorcys gloves due to the DA.
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Ragnarok.Evihime
サーバ: Ragnarok
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2013-05-08 20:17:24
I just really dun know if take STR or DEX path on Mikinaak Feet...
Yeah prolly if ur able to high rank miki body ur right.
Cerberus.Keyoku
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By Cerberus.Keyoku 2013-05-08 20:48:57
I'm torn about exactly the same thing, but I'm pretty sure I talked myself into the DEX path. I'm not online atm, but feels like we can cover STR in tp sets pretty easily and I wouldn't mind a decent chunk of dex in there either. Tho realistically, that'll be a good bit down the line still, what with the pricetag of getting augments to rank 15.
Bismarck.Hsieh
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2013-05-08 21:07:31
I /WAR. If you're not making x hit with the store tp, I would stack on double attack and acc. The new upgraded armor pieces are good for WS sets.
Cerberus.Keyoku
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By Cerberus.Keyoku 2013-05-09 07:00:37
I guess I didn't repeat the piece name that Evihime was talking about: We were just talking about Mikinaak Greaves specifically as replacement for Wrathwing Nails/Ace's in xhits. How to augment the ws pieces is indeed obvious, just torn about this 1 possible TP piece and whether DEX or STR would be more useful to DRK in the TP phase.
Cerberus.Detzu
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-05-09 07:49:52
I'd go with DEX for tp phase, but i'm just eyeballing it, need to run numbers.
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Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-05-09 08:15:04
Aiming to this for Delve acc:
TP LR Down (I always have marches/haste)/SAM 6 hit
ItemSet 300261
LR up switches feet with phorcys, head to Karieyh (goal should be Yoalotl w/e its called), waist to windbuffet, lring with Mars.
Resolution:
ItemSet 300262
Mekira oto in day proc (perfect on non day would be Yoalotl w/e again)
Imma start to get new delve ***when im done with THF stuff with plasmas (Missing kukri and done, to be honest Idk If I should ditch dat and start to get DRK gear)
Delve mobs are not nearly as evasive as people are making them out to be. People do Ceick (for some unknown reason, that zone blows for points) and base their bad ACC on parses that include 5+ minutes of floored ACC. Go do Mori or Foret and every DRK should be capped in a medium build. Hell I see 2hand DDs using Sushi lol.
SE really trolled the player base with that zone.
By Baniak 2013-05-09 08:37:51
SE really trolled the player base with that zone.
I think in SE twisted mind those timeframes of floored acc were made to force ppl to bring magic damage.
Ragnarok.Evihime
サーバ: Ragnarok
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2013-05-09 09:37:24
My set are not supposed to be on normal fodders, but for NMs, also not using sushi.
Ragnarok.Galiber
サーバ: Ragnarok
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By Ragnarok.Galiber 2013-05-09 09:43:00
Wouldn't fully augmented STR Mikinaak feet be also best resolution piece?
Edit: if it's 10 STR aug probably not, but still very close!
Ragnarok.Evihime
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2013-05-09 09:48:26
In non accuracy needed situation at rank 15 they can beat Krieyh, yeah
But id prolly go for DEX path for tp idk need some1 to run some spreedsheets, still didnt start my augment on them
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-05-09 12:47:01
I did ACC path for Feet. Pretty much a DRK only item and DRK has plenty of att sources. The STR might be nice with the weapon rank increases but there other ways around that.
Ragnarok.Evihime
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2013-05-09 15:36:20
Thats what I was thinking.
Ill just take DEX path.
Ragnarok.Zeromega
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-05-12 11:10:22
Just sat a while studying the possibilities with the new feet, type b seems to be the best long term piece. more than likely we'll see replacements for ws and with how small a step up they are for drk in particular for ws over the town feet, going for the acc path will give more leeway in tp builds for better pieces (could possibly use p body instead of e body and keep the same acc :o)
Ragnarok.Zeromega
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-05-13 19:12:36
i need opinions!
looking at ItemSet 300931
allows 3/5 reso, assuming 6stp and ws in 6stp(21 /sam)
84-89raw acc (95-99 rag respectively), 33 dex before augment, after 99-104acc 43 dex
inb4shouldbereaver - not going to forsake rag especially when its getting adjusted soon
サーバ: Odin
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By Odin.Cyprias 2013-05-13 19:17:01
Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »i need opinions!
looking at ItemSet 300931
allows 3/5 reso, assuming 6stp and ws in 6stp(21 /sam)
84-89raw acc (95-99 rag respectively), 33 dex before augment, after 99-104acc 43 dex
inb4shouldbereaver - not going to forsake rag especially when its getting adjusted soon
To be fair, I don't think there was a time set on this yet. I have Spharai and wouldn't mind the revamp myself, but I'm certainly not gimping my group by not having an easily attainable weapon.
Ragnarok.Zeromega
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-05-13 19:49:46
not interested in the bereaver vs rag debate, i have the ki just need srs maths
Asura.Kormak
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By Asura.Kormak 2013-05-20 07:39:09
Was just playing around with the xml and have a question as I'm not familiar with what it considers and what it doesn't.
Why is WS damage unchanged when swapping from:
Karieyh Head and body + Bale Gauntlets +2
>>> Mekira-oto + Phorcys Body and Gloves
Does it not include the Increases WS damage from Mekira and Body?
Edit: WS damage actually falls changing to those pieces.
Ragnarok.Zeromega
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-05-20 07:58:51
not exactly sure what youre asking... spellcast doesnt figure out your best damage or anything o.o if you have it set to put on the oto it will/should only matter what game day it is
Asura.Kormak
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By Asura.Kormak 2013-05-20 08:00:21
Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »not exactly sure what youre asking... spellcast doesnt figure out your best damage or anything o.o if you have it set to put on the oto it will/should only matter what game day it is
Nor Spellcast sorry, DPS Calculator - DRK xml
Should have just said DPS spreadsheet
Ragnarok.Zeromega
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-05-20 08:04:59
if youre lacking acc, the karieyh pieces will help you much more than oto/phorcys. if you dont have acc issues, theres no reason karieyh should outdo oto/phorcys
my reso set has 80acc before dex? not any real acc issues with it save a few delve nms, never enough to break my 3/5 hit requirements
edit: correction, karieyh pieces would pull ahead when atk capped on non oto proc days
Asura.Kormak
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By Asura.Kormak 2013-05-20 08:10:12
All the responses I have had when I asked about my set were all along the lines of GET MEKIRA AND PHORCYS!!! and putting it in the spreadsheet I expected to see a decent increase but to find a decrease is slightly upsetting.
The biggest difference I made was elemental gorget over bale which I'm working on now.
Just wanted to know if there was some hidden attributes that the DPS calculator didn't take into account that made these pieces "theoretically" hit less...
Edit: I think acc is the issue as swapping RCB for sole sushi has the Phorcys pieces pulling ahead.
Asura.Kormak
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By Asura.Kormak 2013-05-20 08:19:49
Nor Spellcast sorry, DPS Calculator - DRK xml
Should have just said DPS spreadsheet
First sheet, make sure you change the field "day for fTP bonus" from 0 to 1.
Thank you... I feel like such a fool but I did say I wasn't familiar with the spreadsheet.
Once again thank you.
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-05-20 08:21:29
All the responses I have had when I asked about my set were all along the lines of GET MEKIRA AND PHORCYS!!! and putting it in the spreadsheet I expected to see a decent increase but to find a decrease is slightly upsetting.
The biggest difference I made was elemental gorget over bale which I'm working on now.
Just wanted to know if there was some hidden attributes that the DPS calculator didn't take into account that made these pieces "theoretically" hit less...
Edit: I think acc is the issue as swapping RCB for sole sushi has the Phorcys pieces pulling ahead.
Lower the mob lvl. Any mob high enough to make Oto+Phorcys fall behind Karieyh you will have increased support to buff ACC.
Ragnarok.Zeromega
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-05-20 08:21:50
nope, and thats one of the issues these days, everyone says "this is the only best set evar!" but if you dont have say ragnarok or i guess bereaver, youll probably fall short on acc (also depends on content) making the oto/phorcys combo a short fall for you.
heres my basic set:
ItemSet 269696
main change to that set would be the new delve legs, i also use letalis mantle rather than atheling in soa areas (15acc > 15atk)
if you dont have a similar level of acc, theres no shame in using karieyh body and i guess helm (helm only when its not thunder/earth/wind days)
edit: i assumed you were already using sole sushi lol, what taint said aswell
Asura.Kormak
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By Asura.Kormak 2013-05-20 08:28:54
Thanks for the info, still working on NNI pieces so ill have to make do with this for now:
ItemSet 301588
Back to praying for good jumps and 1-2 lamp floors for me then.
Simple question... What are the top GS for resolution out of the magian trials line? I have calad for myself but I am looking for something that will help the wife out. I don't really want to do another calad (unless I really need to) and I would do a ragnarok for myself before I would waste one on her. (Fuck I am a dick!)
Also, of you that have played with it.. What do your /ws builds look like?
Some of the GS I was considering....
Fulgurante:
DMG:56 Delay 480
Dmg +48 Occ. Atk. Twice
Tenebreuse:
Dmg: 123 Delay 444
Str+11 Atk+26
Kauriraris:
/WS damage +10 or TP bonus option...
I'm not a GS drk by nature so I am asking before I really get into something I don't wanna fuck with later.
Thanks for any constructive input. ^^
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