Banned For Too Much Gil Flow

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 Leviathan.Phenomena
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-02-07 18:18:20  
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speaking of shouts. im annoyed at ppl who /sh then right after /yell... when i am after currency i just /yell. i would assume that tackles all areas in jueno. why are there ppl who /sh then /yell?

i understand if its the first one. ive done that. habit takes over and i shout something. then realize its in shout and /yell it. but not ever time after that.

I do it because they're separate chat filters and /yell was auto blocked when they introduced it.

really? hmm. would explain somethings.. but ive never changed anything on my characters and ive always been able to hear yells.

Well last I heard they were auto blocked. That was when they first brought them out. Very well may have been changed. Oh well lol

i was on break when /yell was introduced and never knew about it. so i came back and i see ppl shouting with [PortJueno] by their names and i was in upper.. was like wtf awesome! then asked a friend how to do that and learned about yelling... LOUD NOISES. but ya was always working for me
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By mortontony1 2012-02-07 18:19:38  
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Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
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Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
speaking of shouts. im annoyed at ppl who /sh then right after /yell... when i am after currency i just /yell. i would assume that tackles all areas in jueno. why are there ppl who /sh then /yell?

i understand if its the first one. ive done that. habit takes over and i shout something. then realize its in shout and /yell it. but not ever time after that.

I do it because they're separate chat filters and /yell was auto blocked when they introduced it.

really? hmm. would explain somethings.. but ive never changed anything on my characters and ive always been able to hear yells.

Well last I heard they were auto blocked. That was when they first brought them out. Very well may have been changed. Oh well lol

i was on break when /yell was introduced and never knew about it. so i came back and i see ppl shouting with [PortJueno] by their names and i was in upper.. was like wtf awesome! then asked a friend how to do that and learned about yelling... LOUD NOISES. but ya was always working for me

{Hmmm...}
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By Fumiku 2012-02-07 18:21:54  
You may not play the Game for the purpose of acquiring virtual items or advancement in game play on behalf of a third-party.

Dont believe I took this out of context. Correct me if I am wrong but isnt that the big issue?


If that is the case then why do I do events for other people?
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By mortontony1 2012-02-07 18:25:38  
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You may not play the Game for the purpose of acquiring virtual items or advancement in game play on behalf of a third-party.

Dont believe I took this out of context. Correct me if I am wrong but isnt that the big issue?


If that is the case then why do I do events for other people?

Solo all the things!
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-02-07 19:42:52  
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Well last I heard they were auto blocked. That was when they first brought them out. Very well may have been changed. Oh well lol
You are correct on both aspects. It was auto-filtered when first released, but they later changed it.
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By Bahamut.Fistandantilus 2012-02-07 20:17:10  
If they are banning people strictly for running/using a casino, and for running FC for cash operations I'm cool with that. Both are annoying imo.
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By Shiva.Keyera 2012-02-07 20:20:53  
i blame tanaka.
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By Fupafighters 2012-02-07 20:22:05  
If they are banning people for anything other than RMT...there dumb... thats there F up and they need to find ways to restrict it then lol. And if people are actually buying gil on this game...there dumb too. You can farm 2-3 mil a day if your motivated and skilled. Whereas you work 2 hours in real life to afford gil on a game lol? when the whole point of the game is to give us time sinks.
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By Anastasius 2012-02-07 21:13:07  
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If they are banning people strictly for running/using a casino, and for running FC for cash operations I'm cool with that. Both are annoying imo.
How the hell is it annoying to caisnoo?? If you don't like simply /blist it and quit b****ing!

Its crap because those people that do play the game w/o buying gil and items are getting banned because of people who are supposed to investigate RMT do a half a** job at actually investigating it.
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2012-02-07 21:23:17  
There dumb?


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By Bahamut.Fistandantilus 2012-02-07 21:27:02  
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How the hell is it annoying to caisnoo?? If you don't like simply /blist it and quit b****ing!

Its crap because those people that do play the game w/o buying gil and items are getting banned because of people who are supposed to investigate RMT do a half a** job at actually investigating it.

Casino shouts are annoying because they bring nothing positive to the game. They exist solely for the proprietor to make $$$ off of other players while giving them nothing in return.
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By Bahamut.Zangada 2012-02-07 21:44:41  
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If they are banning people strictly for running/using a casino, and for running FC for cash operations I'm cool with that. Both are annoying imo.
How the hell is it annoying to caisnoo?? If you don't like simply /blist it and quit b****ing!

Its crap because those people that do play the game w/o buying gil and items are getting banned because of people who are supposed to investigate RMT do a half a** job at actually investigating it.

Because we have to look at /random spam all day.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-02-07 21:56:12  
Exactly what else do you all do other than make gil. I once had a fisher banned because I left it in beau for 4months w/o leaving zone while having some expensive stuff(alexs and currency) stored on it, but that was the behavior that got it banned. I find it hard to believe they are banning for just having too much gil income/outcome without looking at other things.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-02-07 21:58:29  
I have no worries. I am poor!!
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By Anastasius 2012-02-07 22:05:22  
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How the hell is it annoying to caisnoo?? If you don't like simply /blist it and quit b****ing!

Its crap because those people that do play the game w/o buying gil and items are getting banned because of people who are supposed to investigate RMT do a half a** job at actually investigating it.

Casino shouts are annoying because they bring nothing positive to the game. They exist solely for the proprietor to make $$$ off of other players while giving them nothing in return.

Nothing in return? That's complete sh**. Obviously I've made profit with him, but I give out millions of gil every week. And I buy a ***ton of stuff for random people. Every party I give 50-100k to the most ***equipped person there.

Either way the post serves its purpose. No more casinoo for me at all if I ever get my account back, and for people reading this post should really think about it before playing at another casino again. >.>
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-07 22:06:58  
Bahamut.Fistandantilus said: »
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How the hell is it annoying to caisnoo?? If you don't like simply /blist it and quit b****ing!

Its crap because those people that do play the game w/o buying gil and items are getting banned because of people who are supposed to investigate RMT do a half a** job at actually investigating it.

Casino shouts are annoying because they bring nothing positive to the game. They exist solely for the proprietor to make $$$ off of other players while giving them nothing in return.

If there were no demand for casinos, then they wouldn't be successful. People have fun gambling. Let them get their rocks off. If you don't like it, don't play.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-02-07 22:14:35  
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I give out millions of gil every week. And I buy a ***ton of stuff for random people. Every party I give 50-100k to the most ***equipped person there.

Honestly that sounds more to me like what would get you banned than just having gil :/ Philanthropy always looks suspicious.
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By Bahamut.Fistandantilus 2012-02-07 22:17:11  
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Bahamut.Fistandantilus said: »
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How the hell is it annoying to caisnoo?? If you don't like simply /blist it and quit b****ing!

Its crap because those people that do play the game w/o buying gil and items are getting banned because of people who are supposed to investigate RMT do a half a** job at actually investigating it.

Casino shouts are annoying because they bring nothing positive to the game. They exist solely for the proprietor to make $$$ off of other players while giving them nothing in return.

If there were no demand for casinos, then they wouldn't be successful. People have fun gambling. Let them get their rocks off. If you don't like it, don't play.

I didn't say all Casino's should cease operations, because I find them annoying. Or because people are too dumb to understand odds vs thrill factor. Just pointing out I wouldn't cry a river for bannings related to em.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-07 22:50:34  
Anyone remember this?














Myhal / Gilgamesh
How the Dice Rolls
Milliongetter - selling hopes of instant fortune.
Starlight Greetings!
Are you all enjoying the celebration? That husband of mine just can't seem to get a card that I can use!
Whenever the Starlight Celebration comes, I have a picture of my husband and I taken in the same place every time. So have things changed since we took our last snapshot, or are they the same as ever?

I personally prefer to spend the night peacefully staring up at the stars, but many adventurers seem to just want to break loose and get into the party mood.
Shops were also set up for the festival. "Where there's a crowd, there're sales to be made," or so claims my skilled merchant friend Basann, and judging by the shopkeepers raking in the gil under the festival decorations, I can see he has a point.

One rather unusual merchant stood out in the throng. Swarms of grinning, eager adventurers and card deliverers were crowded around Milliongetter (real name not used for privacy purposes), regardless of the fact that he did not seem to be selling anything.
???: I told you that you should have quit while you had the chance!
???: What would you know? You haven't won a game since you started, either!

I cut in and asked a few questions before the next person got a word out.

-So what is it exactly that you're selling…?
Milliongetter: Hey, don't get the wrong idea, lady. This is a serious game of dice, here!

-Are you earning quite a bit with this game?
Milliongetter: Nah…well, I suppose it's decent. This is what I do for a living, after all (grin).

-Don't some people get upset when they lose?
Milliongetter: Well, if nobody loses, I don't eat! But it's the people that keep losing who keep coming back to try their luck. I know this one guy whose clothing has become a lot more ragged lately. I've even told him myself to give it up. I want people to enjoy the game with their spare change, not their main earnings!

-Even so, it looks like you've got quite a few people willing to give the dice a roll or two.
Milliongetter: Well, I don't have any goods to sell, but everyone dreams of becoming an instant millionaire. I mean, you can eat sole sushi every day, or you could survive off of wild onions. Everyone's got wild hopes.

-Wow. Isn't it a difficult job, though?
Milliongetter: It's definitely tough. There are some people who look down on this kind of competition, so certain places are pretty unfriendly. I've heard that in some places the people'll even try to chase you right out! But me, I try to be extra courteous to those around me. No matter how much my patrons enjoy the game, I could easily still put a halt to my business by offending the other people in the area. And then, there is the fact that no one wants to play a game that simply can't be won, but I'd be out of business if nobody lost! I learned that lesson the hard way when I was new at all of this. It's a delicate balance, and it's difficult to be discrete, but that's my job. To be anything in this line of work, you gotta use what's up here…

Then Milliongetter pointed at his gray-haired head and grinned.

-Do you have any other interesting stories you want to mention?
Apparently one of my patrons who won big has started a business with the gil. I've heard he's an impressive craftsman. This here's a hat he made for me. Looks nice, doesn't it? I haven't seen him lately, though. I wonder if he's still making money… I'm happy for him, but I wish he’d show his face around here more often.

-Thank you very much. Keep up the good work!
Milliongetter: Thanks. Next time you should try your hand at the dice, too!

In an instant, he was surrounded by a crowd of adventurers again, their fervor bringing warmth to the chilly air. Victory was accompanied by shouts of joy, somehow different from the excitement of triumph in battle against monsters. Then, it was my turn. Feeling sweat form on my brow, I clenched the dice in my hands.

And with a great shout, my eventful day ended, and I headed for home.

Tathuma: Welcome home! Today you were out to interview about some game, right? Surely it all came to your biggest gamble of all—marriage, right?
Myhal: Not this time. Marriage was one safe bet for me! Well, time for dinner, now!
Tathuma: Ahaha, you flatter me. What’s this? This is all you’re going to give me to eat?
Myhal: Uh, yeah. You know, I think that this month we should stress the importance of "economizing." Remember, "waste not, want not!"

This is an entry in the Vana'diel Tribune II No.14, Dec. 26, 2005.

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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2012-02-07 22:56:07  
Idk, I've contributed to this thread and watched it as well. There has to be a common denominator amongst those that've gotten banned. Doing something that other's aren't. Because having a Dynamis ls that does Pay-outs every month would make me eligible for banning as well, if that were the case. But I've been doing it for years now.

In addition, there's a large number of people posting that trade millions of gilz/week and never had any problems with it whatsoever. Something's up and I'm not gonna believe that SE just randomly picks accounts to ban. That, imo, would be a horrible accusation.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-07 23:01:06  
to be fair SE can ban anyone at their whim with or without reason, it's their right.

While I don't agree with this policy and think it's a bad policy to even have, under current law there's nothing we can do about it, corporations hold all the power in the world consumers hold little.
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2012-02-07 23:07:49  
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
to be fair SE can ban anyone at their whim with or without reason, it's their right.

While I don't agree with this policy and think it's a bad policy to even have, under current law there's nothing we can do about it, corporations hold all the power in the world consumers hold little.
yes, this is very true. SE does hold ALL rights to our accounts. We merely pay a monthly fee to "use" them as prescribed by the ToS. However, SE doing random bans would only cause people to leave in droves. So yeah, not gonna believe that it's random.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-07 23:10:11  
Sylph.Liltrouble said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
to be fair SE can ban anyone at their whim with or without reason, it's their right.

While I don't agree with this policy and think it's a bad policy to even have, under current law there's nothing we can do about it, corporations hold all the power in the world consumers hold little.
yes, this is very true. SE does hold ALL rights to our accounts. We merely pay a monthly fee to "use" them as prescribed by the ToS. However, SE doing random bans would only cause people to leave in droves. So yeah, not gonna believe that it's random.

me neither, just sayin'
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By Makado 2012-02-07 23:37:43  
It's quite clear SE wants FFxi to end but ppl just can't seem to see that.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-07 23:40:13  
Makado said: »
It's quite clear SE wants FFxi to end but ppl just can't seem to see that.

if they wanted to end it they would, it's not that hard to turn off the power to a room of servers and make a press statement.

It actually makes them money so, no.
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By Makado 2012-02-07 23:42:05  
They need the players to dwindle more b4 they officially announce the conclusion of this 50yr old game.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-07 23:45:01  
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They need the players to dwindle more b4 they officially announce the conclusion of this 50yr old game.

so that's why they made a drive not too long ago to attempt to draw new players and why they continue to push out updates?

makes 100% sense
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-07 23:46:28  
They are currently hosting JP TV video's of these players posting video blogs of playing the game and posting them on the official site to bring new players in.



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By Makado 2012-02-07 23:50:53  
You saying something "New" has or is coming out for ffxi because it all looks exactly the same to me. And job updates are a joke for the most part.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-07 23:53:32  
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You saying something "New" has or is coming out for ffxi because it all looks exactly the same to me. And job updates are a joke for the most part.
The job updates aren't meant to change the job, they are just tweaks.

As you probably know already, they all are alike. The "job" adjustments are all the same type of adjustments across the board for these jobs.

I personally feel that they are just trying to gain attention by using the job adjustments title with them. They should of grouped them together and just made it one dev update.