Yellow !! Does Not Improve +2 Drop On Briareus ?

So today my LS leader informed me that triggering yellow !! did not help on +2 drops that the nm only drop 1 off

Like with Briareus the +2's should only be affected by treasure hunter

apparently the information steams from a BST soloing Briareus for his +2 items.

Anyone that cant confirm that ?

I'm pretty sure it does, as none of them are 100%, but that's just eyeballing from 10-20 kills after that update.

of course yellow helps drops... it only guarentees a drop on certain NMs though. briareus doesnt happen to be one of those.

For the Visions NMs dropping +2 stuff, there seems to be a common one that drops frequently with TH, and an uncommon one that requires yellow to drop frequently.

Of all the Briareus i have done, so far he never drops more than one JoV and SoV. Yellow helps for the jewels to drop, but i never expect more than one of each.

From the 2 Emps done through Bria, always got Jewel w/ just TH, needed yellow to get the stone tho. He only drops 1 of each max.

Yup Sylow is correct. If i remember the +2 item on bri that drops frequently with just th is the stone and the jewel seems to need yellow !! Again neither are 100%. To answer your question again, yes yellow does help.

From my experience, the jewels will most likely drop without yellow (probably increased with treasure hunter), but you won't see the stones if you don't proc. Seems to me most of the force pop NMs they later added +2 items to have this system, one common and one rare or proc only. The timed spawn NMs (Ovni, Turul, ironclads, etc.) seem to only be affected by treasure hunter in my opinion. I've proced yellow and only gotten one and not proced and gotten both. Not sure on VNMs, don't fight them often and usually proc yellow if I do. I can't recall ever getting a stone off Briareus without yellow, no coins from Carabosse, no cards from Glavoid, no coins from Chloris, but saw their other drop usually 80% of the time with only TH8+. This doesn't mean it's most definitely how it works, but it's what I've experienced with these and other NMs while farming Empys. Hope it helps some. :)

Edit: Sylow beat me while I was typing and said it much simpler than me, haha.

Do yellows seem to help on getting the common on also ?



To my own eyeballing yellow!! helped alot on getting +2's one more than the other. which is why im having a hard time believe the bst's information.

On Visions forced spawned NMs, one drop is guaranteed with yellow and the other has a set drop rate affected by Treasure Hunter (and not yellow). It works the same way in Scars with the Ardor drops.

One item is effected by TH the other is by yellow !!

So if you are just procing yellow !! w/o TH you will get 1 more often sometimes both.

If you are just using TH w/o yellow !! you will get the other more often and RARELY see the item the !! drops.

So incredibly rarely. I had to go pop a Sedna to finsish my Cor+2 feet after doing 50 Carabosse Gems.

So rarely that it will never happen.

I honestly wasn't sure if it was impossible for the yellow-linked one to drop without yellow.

In all my experiences I have soloed almost all my +2 for all my jobs and on all the mobs that only drop one +2 items yellow has never proved a factor in drop rates. Now if you are killing and procing a mob that drops multiple of that item then i believe yellow does help.

In my experience on helping out doing empy items, (and having max TH on my THF), Jewels are pretty common and usually drop at least one even without yellow.

However I have never seen a Stone of Voyage drop without a yellow proc, and even with a yellow proc its not 100%
TH will always help you a little bit, and you will get +2 items, but Yellow definitely helps you to get more Jewels and a Stone.

Yes it is. Unless you're careless and trigger it twice.

In my experience of getting 18 ardor off of ironclad severer i would have to agree with the op's friend. it does not seem (i realize thats an assumption, but this is just my own experience, don't get your panties in a bunch, i can state what i've experienced, right or wrong) to.

1.) Ironclad Severer only drops Wieldance items
2.) I'm not sure how the Scars ironclads work with yellow, but they work differently from the visions NMs, because both +2 items will drop at equal frequency with TH only.

Sylow has it right. I don't see the 2nd +2 piece drop w/o a yellow proc. This is on empy NM's in latheine and tah. I can't speak for kon. But i've farmed 9+ empy since the +2 update. In latheine and tah, i've only seen and 2nd +2 w/ a yellow proc. I'd assume the common drop is more common than a 2nd empy piece. This is with TH7+.

On something like sobek, i don't see ardor cards w/o yellow. Ardor stones are common w/o yellow.

As for ironclads that drop +2. I have seen both drop w/o yellow. This i am certain of.

1) Incorrect

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ironclad_Severer

Jewel of Ardor. Would solo with my blm for blm +2 body, along with getting my mules. I found /thf worked better than procing yellow.

Forced spawned NMs have a yellow-triggered drop. Pre-spawned NMs do not.

The way yellow works on these is they have a common drop w/o it, and one with it
For cara card is common drop
Proc yellow and it shifts to the other

I recently just did 100 carabosse's gems and only ever saw the coin if we got yellow. No amount of TH made it drop if there was no proc. Sometimes (rarely) we'd proc and it wouldn't drop, though. Maybe it was just our luck. Card dropped almost every fight, though.

I can only speak for Carabosse. One of her drops was just based on TH, the other was a grellow proc drop only. Me and a friend spammed her for 2 Armageddons and she only dropped the +2 item for COR feet when we happen to be able to get the grellow. The other item we saw almost every battle. Whether or not this holds true for other NMs, I have no idea.

All NMs in Highlands, canyon, and Plateau that drop +2 items are NOT effected by yellow for increased drops, it is all based on luck or your TH if you have it.

This is true for all force popped NMs.

Why do people spread such complete ***? Go away, seriously.

I fixed the post for you.

You can make things that normally depend on yellow drop without it by setting CHR atmas.