The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

- Fixing of BA and CA.

Animation lock is a thing so all of these averages will go down in field. You will never be able to fire off perfectly at 1000 TP because of Animation Lock and Multi-Attack causing Over-TP. This is especially prevalent with WSs like Resolution that have VERY long animations. However Savage, Expiacion and Fudo are more or less the same and should experience losses equally.

My jobsite shut down from COVID-19... So I took the time to actually do this. Only did BLU vs COR so far. Might do RDM later, haven't decided yet(Its a lot of time)

As for DRG, I already admitted that I didn't know. I never see it and when I ask others about it all I get is "Meh" so that was my mistake.

These were constructed with the BiS settups for both BLU and COR from their respective forums and placed side by side. Adjustments to COR's Acc, Attack, Skill were made in COR's weapons to reflect the differences so as not to embellish COR's power. Both were given the same buffs and support and as equal a stride as possible. Certain gears were Augmented to represent the WSD from DRG sub because I simply don't know how to add the tables for them? I'm a Pipefitter/Welder I know complex laws of Thermodynamics and Metallurgy but operating a spreadsheet was never in my profession.

THIS IS NOT A DOWN ON CORSAIR, I LOVE CORSAIR AND THEY ARE, IMO, THE MOST ESSENTIAL BUFFER IN THE PARTY NEXT TO GEO
but Corsair's absolute best Melee DPS is 16.575% behind BLU's. SE has been making it so they can contribute more but that's still a very far cry from catching us.

and just as extra food for thought, I ran the numbers against one of the biggest DPS, SAM.

With the exact same conditions we are very seriously on SAM's heels when it's Meditate is down (2.103%)and fairly close when it's Meditate is up (7.843%). Quick caveats to bear in mind. Animation lock is a thing so all of these averages will go down in field. You will never be able to fire off perfectly at 1000 TP because of Animation Lock and Multi-Attack causing Over-TP. This is especially prevalent with WSs like Resolution that have VERY long animations. However Savage, Expiacion and Fudo are more or less the same and should experience losses equally. It should also be made known that SAM will likely mop the floor with BLU if it's able to Skillchain. There's no way to get around that, especially for SAM. This was nothing more than food for thought.

I say again, I'm with you. I want BLU to get more updates, I'm sick and tired of being skipped on Juicy gears and only getting little side grades but you must understand that BLU is very powerful. The Expiacion Average is 45953, there are spikes nearly hitting 60k. Like Eiryl said, we're stronger than we should be. We can hand a Top-DPS his *** if it slips up, and that shouldn't rightfully be possible given how flexible this job is.

I can easily say just from looking at this, that this sheet is broken as ***.

Wsd on Tizona?

Also this is not how you add wsd from drg.

Also this tp set is for fodder mobs. You will be using 5/5 malignance or mix of malignance with 1-2 Adhemar pieces.

Last time I checked BLU we had like 8200 dps and not much has changed since then.

There is not such thing like Animation lock lol
All WSs has the same delay, regardless of animation. IF you get 1000TP before your Resolution animation ends, you can WS again while still being in WS animation from previous WS.

Also, nope, just went and tested it just to be doubly sure.
2000+ TP, SAM sub, Lv.1 Lockstyle Greatsword. Sekkanoki Resolution and was spamming to use it again. It would not let me use 2nd Resolution at all until the Animation was nearing it's last few frames. The last big downward swing give or take. So yes! this is a thing.

I'm not a magician, go test it yourself lol.

Link to the sheet. https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/51198/currently-maintained-dps-spreadsheets/
In there somewhere is a table for Tizona's Expiacion properties that are not accessible to the user. Or its somewhere only the mod/owner can get to. You can get to the WS itself, WSC, fTP, etc but the Damage bonus that's directly tied to Tizona is no where to be found. If you clone Tizona and try to use anything other than that specific one you suffer a large damage loss so it's definitely in there somewhere that can't be openly accessed. So my only option for adding the Augment's value was to treat it as WSD. Yes, It will fail to account for sub-hand hits and extra hits but its the closest thing I could get to a workaround.

Then prey tell! Don't be pedantic, show us the proper fix then! If we're going to squabble over minor points here and there, bring out the good stuff. Fix SAM's while your at it, there's no appropriated measure for Masamune's Augment, Naegling's Savage Blade or DRG sub in either of them.

Again, same problem. No way to add for PDL if I added it, the results would have been skewed so I simply left it alone. Besides that, what's your definition of "Fodder"? this is a Lv.130 target, something we'll have to set buffs for the get optimized DPS. What would you prefer? Things 70% of the player base doesn't even fight like Wave 3 mobs? I kept it aimed more towards Ambuscade mobs and UNM mobs and similar things that we fight often. The whole point of this was to illustrate the problem of "COR catching BLU in Melee SB DPS" if we start going down the lv.150+ Mobs, CORs don't Melee. Hell, BLU's probably won't melee at the point either.

Alright then, I’ll tinker with it and get back.

(Edit)
Question:
You mention frequently that we’ll never hit pDIF Cap. Any particular reason for that? Unless the target resists Geo effects, capping pDIF should be all but a given if you have an Idris in party. Right now that’s really only Dyna D and one or two other NMs and one or two Ambuscade? Should be able to count on capping.

Idris + BOG + EA = 73.15%
Dia 3 = 20%
Several DEF Down effects such as TCrush or Full-Break = 20%
You’re capped and the targets defense should be 1. Or is there a Defense down cap I’m not aware of?

If you’re saying cap won’t happen against Dyna D that’s fair, but most everywhere else right now it should be open game.

In that quotation I was speaking strictly about Distract, not RDM overall.


Why are people keep talking Torc is that good? It's only that good if you pair it with Savagery Warcry, which is not a DRK native buff. Caladbold is not exactly a weapon that gets TP fast or have big TP overflow, so if you WS asap, then you will WS around 1000-1300TP a lot and at that range (+moonshade for effective 1250-1550) Torcleaver will "only" do like 32-39k and will have at least 5% misses (which is very significant for avg WS damage actually. Gets above numbers to like 30-37k). I mean its still good damage, but its nothing OP (definitely not close to Torcleaver myths). Idk maybe its because people really only use Caladbolg with Warcry and in Escha zergs or simply hold TP. Power of Caladblog comes from good WS AND very good white damage, not from mythical 70k avg Torcleavers.

no

*** off then.

If you consider the fact that 32k torc can generate another 32k light then yes, it IS better than 37k savage blade.

I specifically mentioned SC disadvantage for SB for this reason. If you can't sc by itself it's significant damage loss.

I get it, but people speaks about Torcleaver as it's super OP among all jobs. If you consider self SC, than MNK can Shijin>Vsmite>Vsmite and make like 28k>40k+>40k+ with light and double light for another 40k+ and 60k+. That trashes Torc which is limited to 2 step only. It would beat Torc even before MNK ws update, when MNK was considered as lolDPS. SAM can also trash that with its multistepping. DRG can super trash it with its 4 step umbra including 3 Stardivers. Damn even THF could trash it without sneak attack with 4step umbra. I wouldnt give much credit for Torc skillchain being that good, when you cant really solo 3 step with it unless you use Ragnarok. I seriously think all this praising for Torcleaver comes from zergs with WAR in party giving you savagery and getting some tp overflow on top of that. It's a very powerful WS in that scenario.

/offtop off

The DD power up applies to every job and most relevant ws. Torc is stronger, decimation is stronger, expiacion is stronger, upheaval is stronger, VS is certainly very strong....And list goes on.

To be fair Cala is one of the top white damage weapons and pairs well with DRKs pdif/att/jas.

It’s really good for eyeballing huge numbers. I consider it the opposite of Chango for log watching.

Ummm just FYI, I pretty much mentioned every WS as an example of WS getting dmg increase, not just torc...



Nobody said "torc is a god tier WS that's better than everything else", I only said "SB isn't that godly compare with other high avg WS that can self SC"

Yeah, thats the thing. It's a combination of white damage and nice, but not OP WS damage, that makes Cala great overall. Now eyeballing 3000TP Torc is what makes Torcleaver's legends XD

Where did you see people exaggerate torc damage in this entire discussion? Lol. It's just draylo calling SB "godly" which is farrrrrrrrr from truth.