Master Trial - Black And White

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Master Trial - Black and White
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By Asura.Shiraj 2019-10-31 09:54:15  
Very nice work, dude. It's always a nice thing to see people clearing these fights and not using SMN burn for it is even more impressive, mad props.
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By Ragnarok.Ayami 2019-10-31 12:23:30  
Grats! That was impressive!
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By Asura.Shiraj 2020-03-01 10:07:42  
So I was doing this fight again with some LS friends and found out tank is not needed as weird as that sounds.
I was doing melee method last night and everyone who knows me is probably sick of hearing this already.
Our RUN tank died about 5 minutes into the run, we had only killed less than 1-2 mobs (too lazy to count), so all mobs went idle for a few seconds and then aggroed me, the Monk.
I started recording after we killed 1 mob or so after RUN died cos I was not expecting this to be a viable strat and thought we'd wipe.
Turns out you can beat Black and White without an actual tank as demonstrated in the video.
Although I didn't post full video, that's because we done a goof and ruined the comeback of the century........ Don't forget RR on Odin lol.

TL;DR: Monk can tank Black and White from start to finish because it's that overpowered and PLD/RUN is not necessary.

And Crowned is a god tier WHM for keeping Monk alive throughout the fight.

Will edit when video gets uploaded.

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By Korgull 2020-03-02 02:34:33  
Very impressive.
 
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By zixxer 2020-05-11 18:15:17  
Necro time!

Finally got my sword. Special thanks to Aryea, Reyo, Zinon, Zidaner, and Tafari.

Took us 4 tries, Set up was PLD/BLU (me), RNG x2, COR, WHM, and GEO.

We got to Odin with about 20-30min to spare but he was tough for me to tank because I was /BLU instead of /NIN. Our clear was 55 min.

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By Asura.Ramsy 2020-05-27 13:54:49  
Looking to attempt this melee style sometime this week. Just wondering buff wise what songs/rolls/bubbles are suggested?

Edit: Ah nvm was being lazy I see it all mentioned on the last page.
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By Draylo 2020-05-28 14:15:55  
I love these fights, I hope they add more.
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By Asura.Ramsy 2020-05-29 00:05:54  
Just curious what you would bring instead of a tank?Looking at trying it this way since were having hate issues using pld.
Asura.Shiraj said: »
So I was doing this fight again with some LS friends and found out tank is not needed as weird as that sounds.
I was doing melee method last night and everyone who knows me is probably sick of hearing this already.
Our RUN tank died about 5 minutes into the run, we had only killed less than 1-2 mobs (too lazy to count), so all mobs went idle for a few seconds and then aggroed me, the Monk.
I started recording after we killed 1 mob or so after RUN died cos I was not expecting this to be a viable strat and thought we'd wipe.
Turns out you can beat Black and White without an actual tank as demonstrated in the video.
Although I didn't post full video, that's because we done a goof and ruined the comeback of the century........ Don't forget RR on Odin lol.

TL;DR: Monk can tank Black and White from start to finish because it's that overpowered and PLD/RUN is not necessary.

And Crowned is a god tier WHM for keeping Monk alive throughout the fight.

Will edit when video gets uploaded.

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By Pandemonium.Zeto 2020-05-29 00:22:34  
I'd double up on CORs. Gives you sam chaos and fighter's rolls +1 flex and there's a ton of options for your 4th roll.
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By Bahamut.Lexouritis 2020-05-29 00:55:30  
Asura.Ramsy said: »
Just curious what you would bring instead of a tank?Looking at trying it this way since were having hate issues using pl
Old zones hate mechanics, plus Valks are just wierd with hate, so it's not really your tank, jsut battlefield design. I would n't recommend going without a tank though. I'm pretty sure Rua and Shiraj's group killed Helm and Ort before their RUN died, these will destroy (unless u have boltered fade or fend and are lucky) any DD if they have to hold all the other ***too. Plus supertanking ***is jsut so much easier and safer with a 'real' tank.
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By Bahamut.Justthetip 2020-05-29 03:16:31  
Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »
Asura.Ramsy said: »
Just curious what you would bring instead of a tank?Looking at trying it this way since were having hate issues using pl
Old zones hate mechanics, plus Valks are just wierd with hate, so it's not really your tank, jsut battlefield design. I would n't recommend going without a tank though. I'm pretty sure Rua and Shiraj's group killed Helm and Ort before their RUN died, these will destroy (unless u have boltered fade or fend and are lucky) any DD if they have to hold all the other ***too. Plus supertanking ***is jsut so much easier and safer with a 'real' tank.
This right here is spot on. I think alot of people forget the fights are suppose to take long and how the old zones hate mechanics work for these fights. If you go in without a tank more than likely you won't make it to shadowlord. Some will base don luck but ya. Monk can tank one mob and its feels viable but let him super tank from start and its gonna get noticed not to list the fact about luck on what moves mobs use.
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By Asura.Shiraj 2020-05-29 03:19:44  
Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »
I'm pretty sure Rua and Shiraj's group killed Helm and Ort before their RUN died, these will destroy

We killed Helmwige then tank died. However, we tried Black and White with no tank at all, and while it IS doable, killing Helmwige without Odyllic/One for All is a the worst thing you can do for your white mage. It's hell for them to keep you alive. The bubbles we used was Frailty, Indi barrier entrust wilt. Honor March, Victory March, Blade Madrigal, Knight's Minne V, Scherzo. Sam/Chaos.
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By Asura.Ramsy 2020-05-29 08:34:20  
Sorry was pretty drained when I made that post yesterday. We were aware of the hate mechanics, but I honestly didn’t think it would be that awful. I think going the route of just having a tank super tank and having our monk pull them and tank one by one. Thanks everyone for your feedback
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By zixxer 2020-05-29 20:48:30  
Asura.Ramsy said: »
Sorry was pretty drained when I made that post yesterday. We were aware of the hate mechanics, but I honestly didn’t think it would be that awful. I think going the route of just having a tank super tank and having our monk pull them and tank one by one. Thanks everyone for your feedback

I recorded the fight as pld/blu. I didn't post it on youtube because there is no sound. I should've done a sound check before recording the whole thing. >.>

Anywho... just let me know if you want me to post and send you the link. As I understand you have a strat you're going to try first. Good luck.