Master Trial - Black And White

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By Asura.Ramsy 2020-10-07 14:03:15  
Asura.Memes said: »
That's what I thought but they are all wearing Calad at one point and the tank is casting stun (DRK sub?), it is dat changes? The support is GEO BRD RDM?
Looks like Run/Blm, he does the first EA sleepga.
 
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By eeternal 2020-10-07 14:20:39  
no way no one in here don't speak JP >.> where are you Funkworkz!
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By eeternal 2020-10-07 14:21:50  
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Just do the glitch exploit that Ejiin probably got banned for.

This is x3 time faster and safer.. you are talking about 15-17 mins clear, as opposed to 40+
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Commencal 2020-10-07 15:07:13  
Didn't have reraise up
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By Afania 2020-10-08 05:46:26  
eeternal said: »
no way no one in here don't speak JP >.> where are you Funkworkz!

What part did you need help with? I quickly watched the first few min, from what I've read:

Setup: RUN DRK DRK RDM GEO BRD.
RUN/BLM open with ES sleepga. RDM attempt proc immunobreak on alex. DRK do HP boost things. After immunobreak proc RDM AoE stymie sleep2 them all for 7 min sleeps. Pull adds one by one in the order shown in the video.

I stopped watching after they engage mobs, you can PM me if you don't get how specific part works after that.
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By eeternal 2020-10-08 17:03:21  
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I stopped watching after they engage mobs, you can PM me if you don't get how specific part works after that.

This is very helpful Afania.. much obliged for the support.. it's really cleaver of them using rdm/sch for stymie manifestation sleep2.
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By Bahamut.Lexouritis 2020-10-08 21:26:09  
RIP 5 year old content with gear creep, job adjustments, and nerfs up the ***
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By Bahamut.Justthetip 2020-10-09 06:07:58  
Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »
RIP 5 year old content with gear creep, job adjustments, and nerfs up the ***
In the defense of scaling its better this way now you can melee it gives people more options tbh.
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By eeternal 2020-10-09 06:24:21  
Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »
RIP 5 year old content with gear creep, job adjustments, and nerfs up the ***
Actually, this one is quite annoying since you cant recover after dying, due to hate mechanics and in addition to that, the constant hate reset
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By Shiva.Thorny 2020-10-09 09:33:52  
I mean, it is 5 year old content, and we have had a ton of gear creep and job adjustment. It wasn't hard 3 years ago, it's definitely not hard now.
 
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By Shiva.Thorny 2020-10-09 10:02:24  
I agree, which is why I posted the new way to do sealed fate long after that was trivial too. But, it's a bit silly to jump on Lex for pointing out the truth. Anyone who cared about the win and was at all skilled got it years ago. I was 5boxing it and selling a straight leech spot over 3 years back.

I posted this thread 4 years ago, and you can see from the OP how much stats have changed(for example, you needed literally perfect gear and /dnc accuracy traits for a COR to cap accuracy, while now they can do it with average stuff, any sub, and no hunter's roll). This content was beaten before omen even existed.
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By eeternal 2020-10-09 18:53:48  
^
Pretty sure most hardcore players were getting the wins 4 years ago but for sure they weren't close to 16 mins clear.. Even with all gear creep, they were clearing it in 40 mins min. Like melee method wasn't even considered back then, it was mostly smn or rng
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By Bahamut.Xiutaru 2020-10-09 19:46:58  
Some have already switched to melee for a while now, just never openly posted anything about it since it is older content. Their kill speed is expected. It's just not as surprising to some of us as it was to you. I have a video of one of our melee runs from Dec. 2019 which is about 23 minutes. One of our party members was just a roll COR (for the clear) and no sleeps were involved. Damage just came from a RUN and BLU, but if we had that third person's damage, it would have definitely made the run faster. Their party composition is different and utilizing sleeps is good info to know, but it always depends on who you have and what jobs they can offer as well.
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By eeternal 2020-10-09 19:52:01  
interesting.. mind sharing?
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By Bahamut.Lexouritis 2020-10-10 23:57:15  
ummmm.... my response was more to the fact of a RDM being able to sleep dark based mobs with dark based sleeps which was literally impossible. It's kinda cool I guess that RDM can control them and make the fight more of a joke now but: So yeah RIP 5 year old content with nerfs, gear creep, and job adjustments.
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By Draylo 2020-10-11 00:09:42  
In other words, outside of the *** waving, RDM is OP!
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By Asura.Wotasu 2020-10-11 00:15:38  
Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »
ummmm.... my response was more to the fact of a RDM being able to sleep dark based mobs with dark based sleeps which was literally impossible. It's kinda cool I guess that RDM can control them and make the fight more of a joke now but: So yeah RIP 5 year old content with nerfs, gear creep, and job adjustments.
Oddly enough Fomor tend to resist lullaby but not Sleep. Besides that one Ambuscade with like 8 Relic Fomor.
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By Afania 2020-10-11 00:34:33  
Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »
ummmm.... my response was more to the fact of a RDM being able to sleep dark based mobs with dark based sleeps which was literally impossible.

I thought Stymie has 100% debuff land rate? In that case it should be possible to land from the get go.

It's more like 1) gear creep allows DD kill most if not all the formors before sleeps wear. 2) longer sleep duration from gear creep(?).

If Stymie works now then it should work years ago. I doubt people tried that back then, since RDM wasn't popular at that time.
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By Bahamut.Lexouritis 2020-10-11 00:55:30  
I'm not sure if Stymie is 100%, but sleeping them was definitely tried back then. (we're talking before this was first beaten) Surviving the valks while trying to melee was the main issue from 2016-2018ish, after that some groups swapped to melee them for speed.
 
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