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V25 Odyssey is stupid enough as it is. Nobody wants to fight v30 bumba. V25 is already the dumbest experience you can imagine. Let’s just give them even more -dt, higher health, and throw in even more regen so that kaustra can’t cheese bumba anymore. Sounds like an awesome time doesn’t it? It’s for the best that system limitations prevent them from being able to add another tier. The experience would be god awful.

God awful experiences are the norm in 2026

One in one hundred thousand chance earrings
One in a million drop rate bcnm
years of slog through limbus
more garbage *** vanabout

Watching bumba tic to death sounds down right pleasant by comparison. Peachy even.

v30 fights with Sub Jobs might be fun. Make them Master trial like Content that brings your gear to R31 for epeen. If you beat Bumba v30 you get access Nyamo gear and can make a second set.

Says this then gives SE 20 grand a month or whatever in subscription fees

Yall insane. I will do Kalunga V100 where he spits Lahars for auto-attacks. I will gladly accept Dhartok spitting literal Bio-750hp tick auras around the battlefield for every savage blade he receives, before maxing out on weekly Limbus climbs and taking 6 months to fully augment one piece of gear. You can't even compare Sortie/Odyssey to Limbus, the latter is AWFUL. Gimme the former any day of the week. (not bumba, THAT'S SOME *** ***)

Why stop there, just give every rank beyond V25 an extra pet.

V26? 3 pets. V27? 4 pets.

V30? 7 pets with 7-times the regen!

Beat that, you ungrateful gits.

I was being hyperbolic there to take yet another open court layup dig at Limbus.

AMAN is tomorrow you better be in the chat chanting limbus sucks
(everyone)

新しいリンバスはクソだ

I'm struggling to even justify getting two materials just to make the base H2H for lockstyle. I only managed to get my Alabaster Earring to R15 before I had to seriously take a break from doing climbs, it is just so mind numbing (and that is saying something as I will gladly do solo Odyssey stuff daily, pick away at my mastery rank, etc).

Two mats 5 shards should be easy one time thing. Can use codes to get the mats (assuming you pick from the 5k box and get the material? Idk how drops work)

They said Odyssey was ending at v25. They could always change their mind, but I was kinda disappointed to hear that. I thought the content was interesting and could've been tiered out further. New T4? T5? It is scalable content as is, but with the v25 update they said it's the last unless they change their mind.

IMO they should change their mind and add Sheol D and new bosses.

v30 would be dumb though, I can imagine they'd have some stupid mechanic like bosses spawn other bosses or fetters auto-KO random players if they are out too long.


Remember when they oops-i-accidentally allowed subjobs in Gaol for like 1hr after an update? I'd be surprised if they didn't experiment with it and that was some test realm leakage.

Either way, I always thought it'd be fun to encourage the climb again. Maybe for doing the whole climb you get a KI that can trade to eliminate some annoying task or expense, like get a Cats Eye or something with higher tier rewards for the higher levels.

I'm sure someone will explain why that'll break everything though.

Never thought I'd see the day where I'd be encouraged to join a live event and troll SE for how terrible their content is (I don't even have the time to bother watching it). I'm from the era where SE could throw a rock in any corner and it turned into gold.

This was peak FFXI.



https://youtu.be/RdS82mZPSPU?si=jw3qOtJIpzklbZ5S

RIP, never getting these moments back again (but was a great time to be alive).

A summary was posted on reddit for the AMAN live - https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxi/comments/1u41izu/june_13th_aman_live_translation_thread/

Probably the most notable thing is shrinking the size of temenos (fewer floors).

Good. Too many damn floors and mobs, ??? never pops.

A 5% deshitification. Not going to move the needle.

Nope but it's a good start. Especially since at the very least, many I know just get the code for units and ignore climbs. That guaranteed 3-6k/unit per week plus matter chance helps.

Don't want to do limbus just want the rewards from limbus, of course

There is so much to do in this game, especially for the average player. Grinding trash for 6-8 hrs a week is not a fun nor productive time.

Certainly aren't going to see me disagree

But also
4 hours of shoel C per week isn't fun either
8 hours of omen per week isn't fun either
12 hours of dienamis per week isn't fun either
8 hours of sortie per week isn't fun either

All just grind for the sake of grind. Just chores you do for allowance.

Interesting we get the names of the tracks "Lumina Angels" and "Void Angels"

Eliminating some temenos floors was something I suggested months ago. Too bad search is broken or Id cite myself.

I dont think it will make the ??? easier to pop though. Atleast 60% of central mobs go untouched, and it doesnt change the fact temenos ITG needs 15+++ kills whereas Apollyon seems to be 100%.

How the *** are you spending 8 hours in omen.

The rest are generally fun because it's some optimization and playing with friends where you need to pay attention, not run and kill trash. Time limits kind of force more optimal play patterns as well.

If all you need is a timer to call it fun, pretend youre on the clock in limbus.

No, you were right the first time. It's the grind that's the problem.

Game has always had grind. Old school XP, ML, Nyzul tokens, plasm, escha beads, you name it, it's a grind.

Making it just grind with nothing exciting happening, that's when it becomes an issue. I'd put Nyzul and plasm farming in the same bracket.

Nyzul at least has random objectives to spice it up a bit. Limbus, like Delve and Incursion, is "the same thing every time". Not saying Nyzul's great, because it isn't, and it should have been 100k tokens like the ichor or had the entry cost nerfed long ago, but it's at least Less Bad.

(it's funny to me that you didn't even mention Incursion, which is and remains the most godawful offender to me. Killing popcorn trash mobs is fun in small doses but that map is huge and there's zero variety to it!)

Incursion has a campaign to boost its points. I have done it outside campaigns, it is just as awful at that you are right. But has a campaign to at least make it worth your while to grind it while campaign is on.