Random Politics & Religion #31: 2018 Edition

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By Viciouss 2018-01-30 17:55:51  
It has been a weak winter here so far in terms of snow, only a couple of storms never amounting to more than a few inches, and it has melted pretty quick.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-01-30 18:06:55  
Just for reference, US News and World Report...

When I was a kid it was Rockefeller republican, and through all my life solidly behind republican economic policies and US domination of worldwide resources.

These last few years I had assumed it was never Trump but still on the conservative side.

But with the language in this opinion piece, they seem about as lefty as the nation. And almost as foulmouthed as Wonkette.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-01-30 18:12:06  
Viciouss said: »
It has been a weak winter here so far in terms of snow, only a couple of storms never amounting to more than a few inches, and it has melted pretty quick.
A bit milder than average tempwise here, snow about average. This is an arid area, so like 24" of rain a year is wet, and more than 6" of snow on the ground is a lot.
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-01-30 19:22:15  
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-01-30 20:59:37  
Anna Ruthven said: »
Bahamut.Omael said: »
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You have 8 characters on 8 servers?
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By Nausi 2018-01-31 06:58:49  
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There aren't any Dems that are worried about this, nor should there be. Its an allegation that somehow, the FISA warrant on Carter Page was "inappropriately" obtained. All of sudden, people care about Carter Page? I don't think so.

We've got two narratives.

1) releasing the memo is reckless, and endangers national security.
2) releasing the memo is harmless because it's just fluff.

They cannot both be right. That's how we know the memo is huge.
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By Nausi 2018-01-31 07:01:39  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Zerowone said: »

Let's see....

Quote:
The second memo was written by Cody Shearer, a controversial political activist and former journalist who was close to the Clinton White House in the 1990s.

Unlike Steele, Shearer does not have a background in espionage, and his memo was initially viewed with scepticism, not least because he had shared it with select media organisations before the election.

Well, that was fun. /yawn
Yep another clinton butt boy, made a second dossier to corroborate the first.

Buckle up liberals, this is going to be the biggest political scandal of your entire lives, and youre gonna own all of it.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-01-31 10:25:34  
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2018-01-31 10:51:41  
Chanti, I am really interested in Nancy Pelosi's unbiased opinion of his speech as well. Can you please share a link?
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By Viciouss 2018-01-31 11:52:16  
Trey Gowdy the latest Republican to be leaving Congress.
 
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By Nausi 2018-01-31 12:12:06  
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For those unfamiliar with it, a train carrying a load of GOP congressmen, including Paul Ryan, ran into a garbage truck at a railroad crossing. The crew of the truck all died on impact, no word on if any of the trash are injured, dead, or alive and well quite yet.
The people who are offended by Trumps tweets and language, say ***like this.
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By Kodaijin 2018-01-31 12:35:08  
Nausi said: »
Candlejack said: »
For those unfamiliar with it, a train carrying a load of GOP congressmen, including Paul Ryan, ran into a garbage truck at a railroad crossing. The crew of the truck all died on impact, no word on if any of the trash are injured, dead, or alive and well quite yet.
The people who are offended by Trumps tweets and language, say ***like this.

1 person.
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By clearlyamule 2018-01-31 12:46:55  
Who he hell calls truck drivers a crew?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-01-31 14:06:55  
Someone who is completely disjointed from reality.
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By Zerowone 2018-01-31 14:48:27  
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Trey Gowdy the latest Republican to be leaving Congress.

Ah man. With him and Darrel Issa leaving we’re never going to find out what happened to Ben Ghazi.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2018-01-31 15:41:05  
What’s anazing about all of this to me is that liberals are usually trashing FISA and now they’re either ignoring or defending its use and conservatives are usually supportive of law enforcement and now they’re trashing them...

Trump even stated in his address the other night how he supports law enforcement and soldiers... is that only if they’re not investigating things related to him?

Idk man... it doesn’t seem like anything really actually matters to anyone besides them feeling like their side is winning lol...
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-01-31 15:59:31  
The Plot Against America

Decades before he ran the Trump campaign, Paul Manafort’s pursuit of foreign cash and shady deals laid the groundwork for the corruption of Washington.

The Atlantic

This is either a really long article or a really short biography.

TLDR: Manafort invented lobbying as we know it today. If you do business with him keep your hand on your wallet and wear armor on your back.
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By Zerowone 2018-01-31 16:28:36  
So it turns out, Strzok is the FBI agent who drafted the letter Comey sent to Congress to reopen the Clinton investigation in October 2016. Also, turns out congress has his emails and are currently scratching their heads. Due to his professional behavior creating a complexity that does not fit the simplistic narrative some politicians are peddling.

Interesting....

cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/01/31/stzork.email.pdf

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By Zerowone 2018-01-31 16:33:29  
Should note that’s just one email chain among many regarding Strzok, Comey and McCabe. Seems like someone from the Senate committee is leaking.
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By Zerowone 2018-01-31 16:51:27  
Oh hey, now the house committee transcripts are coming out:

https://www.scribd.com/document/370456823/HMTG-115-IG00-Transcript-20180129


It’s getting juicy.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-01-31 17:00:41  
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Oh hey, now the house committee transcripts are coming out:

https://www.scribd.com/document/370456823/HMTG-115-IG00-Transcript-20180129


It’s getting juicy.

I read through most of that before nearly dying of boredom. What exactly is the juicy part?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-01-31 17:16:55  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Zerowone said: »
Oh hey, now the house committee transcripts are coming out:

https://www.scribd.com/document/370456823/HMTG-115-IG00-Transcript-20180129

It’s getting juicy.
I read through most of that before nearly dying of boredom. What exactly is the juicy part?
I will second that.
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By Viciouss 2018-01-31 17:22:14  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Zerowone said: »
Oh hey, now the house committee transcripts are coming out:

https://www.scribd.com/document/370456823/HMTG-115-IG00-Transcript-20180129


It’s getting juicy.

I read through most of that before nearly dying of boredom. What exactly is the juicy part?

Well its interesting that Nunes and his aides got some classified intel together, wrote a memo about it, shared the memo with the committee, but didn't share the classified intel with the committee. The only two members (as of 2 days ago) other than Nunes that had read the classified intel were Gowdy and Schiff, I don't know how they got access to it, maybe they twisted Nunes' arm or something.
Then, the committee voted to release the memo to the House, without even having read the documents it was based on, then the House voted to release it, and still no one has actually read the classified intel that Nunes based his memo on. That's an interesting "vetting" process. And you wonder why the Dems aren't worried about "owning" this "scandal."
 
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By Nausi 2018-01-31 17:45:03  
Right, im sure theres no consequences or anything for falsifying classified information.

Oh wait what about that Dossier?
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By Nausi 2018-01-31 17:46:44  
New spin is that by releasing he memo Trump could be further obstructing justice.

What planet are these people living on?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-01-31 18:00:34  
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Well its interesting that Nunes and his aides got some classified intel together, wrote a memo about it, shared the memo with the committee, but didn't share the classified intel with the committee....
Or anyone. This is NOT news.
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By Viciouss 2018-01-31 18:02:22  
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Right, im sure theres no consequences or anything for falsifying classified information.

Oh wait what about that Dossier?

Nothing has been falsified and uh, what about the dossier?
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