The A.M.A.N. Trove BC

Thanks all, I didn't know that could happen. This was at Waughroon Shrine for me. Sounds like the worst offender.

Had this happen to me as well, but that one time I was having connection issues so it's no surprise so many packets were getting lost in the communication between Client and Server.

The other time it was just a random one-time only thing and running back and forth once fixed it for me.

There are people who play this game that never deal with npc's failing to load?!?

1/3 times when I teleport to a crag I need to run away for it to spawn the point.

The worst offenders are when doing the reset proc trick in abyssea, and the point doesn't spawn when teleporting away..

Didn't Byrth release an addon, a long time ago during the Sinister Reign spam era, that greatly reduced this NPC/objects failing to load client-side?

I don't remember the name but I absolutely remember him releasing this addon.

Remember
but its not infallible.

It's been awhile but I do remember that happening at Abyssea confluxes too

I thought this was SE messing with me because I just got Crepuscular Knife on a previous orb and they were hiding the chests with more Shinryu gear

What's the reset proc trick?

If a mob has a proc you don't have on your job, run to a teleporter, teleport away from it. It will de-aggro and when reclaimed will have a new proc, hopefully one you have access to.

That's the trick; whether or not it's worth your time is a whole 'nother thing. If it's a 15 minute respawn NM, probably not worth sitting around for another 15 minutes and hoping for the next one, but it depends if you value your time or your effort more, I guess.

There is zero chance in hell I'm wasting a cerb/khim/hydra pop.

Don't disagree at all, but there's cases on the other end where you'd obviously be wasting your time doing this, like the Carabosse NMs, or possibly even some 15min spawns who can be farmed from gold chests instead, depending on their proximity to a teleporter.

Regardless, it was meant to be a joke about being lazy, not an argument on the merits of doing it or when it is and isn't worth it.

If someones refreshing a La Theine Liege red trigger, they deserve to have their account banned lol

Felt pretty worth it when I was farming Chloris
Don't think I resorted to it for the others I've made.

I did not update BG-Wiki but I was buying some Mars orbs and the seller entered as well as one of my characters, the seller warped out and I opened chests and eventually got rainbow and got the 5m gil even though 2 of us had entered the B.C.
This is the first time this has happened to me after many many orbs like this so either it's new or just very rare?
From the wording (and how I thought this worked) on BG, this shouldn't have occurred.
/shrug

Unless I'm misunderstanding you, this sounds normal to me. You said the seller warped so I assume they were at a HP. You received the loot because you were the only one eligible to receive it. Does BG say something else?

Widely believed that if a popper warps before the terminal you can't get the 5m

Game is basic af. People are painting it in superstition to make it interesting? It would make more sense if they thought that the terminal popper is the only person who gets paid.

I have no idea where these rumors of party member requirements came from w/r/t the gil drops from AMAN trove. Maybe it's the confusing, unnecessary statement about how you can get gil if you have party members in the zone? That statement should just be deleted, it adds nothing of value except encouraging superstition

Duplicates not dropping only applies to items if your group already has what would drop. Instead you get a blank psace in the pool.

There's no check to see that you already have 5m or 10m when the gil prize is awarded.

I used to see a lot of shouts of folks selling TROVE drops. Not so much any more. Anyone selling TROVE Crepuscular Mail per chance? If so, how much does it go for?

I got lucky on the rest, farmed doing the fight and got Crepuscular Cloak from a random TROVE.

Ive seen mail/helm sell for 100, seen shouts for 150 as well... But as a rational player I don't understand why anyone would pay that price tag for such a niche piece / lockstyle piece? Frankly it should only be worth 50 or less Strictly due its rarity, but expect more from shouts due to greed.

Consider:
A) 150M or 200hrs running Shinryu (reduced by your luck)?

B) 150M or buying orbs at 2-3M a pop until you get lucky?

Its "rarity" is something like a 0.1% drop rate of a split pool of 5 items

5 items across 1% rate. Either way, you're spending far more time doing Shinryu than it would take you to farm 150M. It's more rare from trove than it is from Shinryu.

I did consider it... and its Still a useless piece with an exorbitant price tag STRICTLY due to its rarity. That doesn't change my opinion.
The useful pieces from Shinryu are both Rare as *** And useful, so they warrant the super high price. The non-useful ones warrant a high price due to rarity, but not the pricetag similar to the useful ones. Sorry, can't change my mind on that. Although if you happen to be lucky enough to find one in your pool and actually find a 150m buyer for mail or helm, congrats. A sucker is born every day I suppose

Kraken Club is 800 mil

I mean... you know that's disingenuous. I get your argument, but clearly KClub is more useful than the armor by exponential value.

Regardless of the utility for doing trials, its still BiS offhand for multiple jobs in some aspects of endgame, such as sheol C for example. I shouldn't have to argue that vs a iLvl RR1 set combo that's if someone truly wanted as a panic button they could farm the non iLvl version for the same benefit. (and its 10x more common too)

At the end of the day, people with limitless money will spend it however they want, for whatever rare trinkets they can get their hands on even if its the most polished shiny turd in lot of ***. My point was simply that the perception of rarity to value for these 2 pieces in particular is off, and while people tend to expect a cloak price tag for a mail, it really isnt worth that and should be treated as such.

And yet in the inflation thread, it was repeatedly said that only a fraction of the playerbase is still doing Sheol.