Random Politics & Religion #36

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 Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-02-27 12:38:05  
Apparently Cohen has already provided testimony today that directly contradicts information found in his sentencing report. He'll evade perjury charges for lying under oath when his comments benefit the Dems, of course.

Beyond that, apparently the media and the Dems are blatantly colluding again by providing Cohen's opening statements to the media but not the Republicans in the committee, even though they're required to do so 24 hours in advance.
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By Nausi 2019-02-27 12:51:28  
Democrat - facts I don't like media collusion is a direct threat to the republic
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 12:55:01  
The Republicans were handed the statements last night at the same time as everyone else, short of the 24 hours, but still provided. No impact whatsoever.
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2019-02-27 12:56:21  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Apparently Cohen has already provided testimony today that directly contradicts information found in his sentencing report. He'll evade perjury charges for lying under oath when his comments benefit the Dems, of course.

Beyond that, apparently the media and the Dems are blatantly colluding again by providing Cohen's opening statements to the media but not the Republicans in the committee, even though they're required to do so 24 hours in advance.
I'm shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YA.
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 12:58:32  
Not really any new information, we already knew Trump is an idiot that has lied, cheated, and stolen to get what he wants. Too bad he still can't build his wall tho.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-02-27 13:19:04  
Viciouss said: »
The Republicans were handed the statements last night at the same time as everyone else, short of the 24 hours, but still provided. No impact whatsoever.

Wrong, CNN had it before the Republicans did according to Jim Jordan, who is more trustworthy than your "star witness" (lol).
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-02-27 13:21:49  
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Not really any new information, we already knew Trump is an idiot that has lied, cheated, and stolen to get what he wants. Too bad he still can't build his wall tho.

You're partially right. There's nothing new to see here aside from more Cohen lies. Too bad this has been built up by the media and Dems (not that there's any difference) to be a massive revelatory experience that could finally nail Trump. Time to change subject, you got another huge flop to sweep under the rug.
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 13:39:29  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
The Republicans were handed the statements last night at the same time as everyone else, short of the 24 hours, but still provided. No impact whatsoever.

Wrong, CNN had it before the Republicans did according to Jim Jordan, who is more trustworthy than your "star witness" (lol).

I only saw Mark Meadows bring forth the allegation, not that either one of them has any credibility, the two senior figureheads of the failed Tea Party. I haven't seen a shred of evidence that CNN had the statements before the committee.
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 13:41:28  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Not really any new information, we already knew Trump is an idiot that has lied, cheated, and stolen to get what he wants. Too bad he still can't build his wall tho.

You're partially right. There's nothing new to see here aside from more Cohen lies. Too bad this has been built up by the media and Dems (not that there's any difference) to be a massive revelatory experience that could finally nail Trump. Time to change subject, you got another huge flop to sweep under the rug.

I haven't seen him lie about anything today.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-02-27 13:44:47  
I read about the testomony up to the break.

I actually saw two new things. New to me at least.

And while we are busy watching the Choen show hearing, what has our deal maker persident given away in Hanoi?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-02-27 13:46:38  
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Not really any new information, we already knew Trump is an idiot that has lied, cheated, and stolen to get what he wants. Too bad he still can't build his wall tho.

You're partially right. There's nothing new to see here aside from more Cohen lies. Too bad this has been built up by the media and Dems (not that there's any difference) to be a massive revelatory experience that could finally nail Trump. Time to change subject, you got another huge flop to sweep under the rug.

I haven't seen him lie about anything today.

You haven't caught up with your own media then. CNN acknowledged one of his biggest whoppers, and even DiFi is pulling back by saying that Cohen "has a credibility problem".

Tack on the fact that Cohen is actively shooting down conspiracy theories about the golden showers tape, the elevator tape, a secret Trump love child, etc., and this is turning out to be a joyful day.
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By Nausi 2019-02-27 13:52:36  
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The Republicans were handed the statements last night at the same time as everyone else, short of the 24 hours, but still provided. No impact whatsoever.
This is outright false.
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By fonewear 2019-02-27 13:54:31  
I lied to Congress before but this time I'm on the straiten arrow I tells ya ! I've seen the light. I'm a changed man you can count on that !
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By fonewear 2019-02-27 13:56:00  
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By fonewear 2019-02-27 13:56:29  
Coen to Congress:

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By fonewear 2019-02-27 13:57:50  
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 13:59:09  
Nausi said: »
Viciouss said: »
The Republicans were handed the statements last night at the same time as everyone else, short of the 24 hours, but still provided. No impact whatsoever.
This is outright false.

lol coming from you, with no source, dismissed!
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By fonewear 2019-02-27 14:00:33  
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Not really any new information, we already knew Trump is an idiot that has lied, cheated, and stolen to get what he wants. Too bad he still can't build his wall tho.

Ok here's a research project for you.

If Trump is a liar and Coen is a liar...who is telling the "truth" ?
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 14:01:00  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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Not really any new information, we already knew Trump is an idiot that has lied, cheated, and stolen to get what he wants. Too bad he still can't build his wall tho.

You're partially right. There's nothing new to see here aside from more Cohen lies. Too bad this has been built up by the media and Dems (not that there's any difference) to be a massive revelatory experience that could finally nail Trump. Time to change subject, you got another huge flop to sweep under the rug.

I haven't seen him lie about anything today.

You haven't caught up with your own media then. CNN acknowledged one of his biggest whoppers, and even DiFi is pulling back by saying that Cohen "has a credibility problem".

Tack on the fact that Cohen is actively shooting down conspiracy theories about the golden showers tape, the elevator tape, a secret Trump love child, etc., and this is turning out to be a joyful day.

I'm fine with him debunking some wild conspiracies that nobody in the mainstream or on this site has ever pushed. I don't think Trump ever hit his wife, we know he cheated on her a lot, sexually harassed plenty of others, but I've never bought into the DV claim.

The only thing he has said that is probably false is he has never been to Prague, how did the passport stamp get there then o.O
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By fonewear 2019-02-27 14:01:09  
I'm pretty sure there is some liars paradox going on here.
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 14:01:15  
fonewear said: »
Viciouss said: »
Not really any new information, we already knew Trump is an idiot that has lied, cheated, and stolen to get what he wants. Too bad he still can't build his wall tho.

Ok here's a research project for you.

If Trump is a liar and Coen is a liar...who is telling the "truth" ?

You fone! Only you!
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By fonewear 2019-02-27 14:04:12  
I don't have time to read it but you can if you want:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 14:05:46  
fonewear said: »
I don't have time to read it but you can if you want:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox

Nope.
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By fonewear 2019-02-27 14:06:52  
I didn't read it either I just assumed it backed up my point.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-02-27 14:07:31  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
what has our deal maker persident given away in Hanoi?
Up till now, has been more peaceful than our previous Drone Striking, Ghdaffi killing, Non-syrian genocide facing coward previous president.

If the US and Allies gain more security from concessions given by the US, then it's still better for everyone. I don't think I have seen any missle tests from The Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

Could turn out good, could turn out stalemate, could turn out full out War. Who knows! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Maybe we could preemptive strike, you know, show a message to Venezuela and Iran. =3
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By fonewear 2019-02-27 14:07:51  
It's all semantics anyways just ask your English teacher. Also ask Bill Clinton. It depends on your definition of is "is" Or something.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-02-27 14:09:51  
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I didn't read it either I just assumed it backed up my point.
Yah I wouldn't bother trying to lead that horse to water. Then complains Nausi won't drink water he was lead to by him either.

I know, it sounds crazy.

Fone, how bout we get piss drunk one night and go to Chicago and drape MAGA flags all over it? Make it REALLY MAGA Country! =D
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By fonewear 2019-02-27 14:13:22  
Magma country is pretty good but Flavor Country is nice too:

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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 14:13:49  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
what has our deal maker persident given away in Hanoi?

Its going to be the same as last time, NK will pocket the concessions and continue its nuclear program while being legitimized by the US. Its amazing how simply not testing missiles has stroked Trump's ego so much to the point that he really believes he has prevented a shooting war, something that has never been close to happening.
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 14:14:51  
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fonewear said: »
I didn't read it either I just assumed it backed up my point.
Yah I wouldn't bother trying to lead that horse to water. Then complains Nausi won't drink water he was lead to by him either.

I know, it sounds crazy.

Fone, how bout we get piss drunk one night and go to Chicago and drape MAGA flags all over it? Make it REALLY MAGA Country! =D

That was amusing. Try not to get shot.
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