You'll Shoot Your Eye Out! - New FFXI RNG Guide

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 Asura.Aburaage
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By Asura.Aburaage 2020-04-02 05:54:21  
Hey guys, I'm looking for some opinion on RNG Aeolian Edge,
TP Gun + DI bullet (+40 MAB no MACC)
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TP Bow + DI Arrow (+20% WSD)

Looking to use this fully buffed, +8 rolls/igeo etc
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By Pantafernando 2020-04-02 06:25:11  
Magic dmg is nearly constant. You can do a fine attunement by using it against same target, like roots in reive.

Plus comparing mab and wsd is relative. The more mab you have in your set devaluate aditional mab (for example, adding 1mab in a 100mab set is an increase of 1% while 1mab in a set of 50 mab is an increase of 2%)

Edit: if i didnt derped my math, wsd 20 is equal to.mab+40 with a set of 200 mab. So if you have mab 201 or higher, you should favor wsd stat
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By Shiva.Flowen 2020-04-05 14:24:43  
Asura.Aburaage said: »
Hey guys, I'm looking for some opinion on RNG Aeolian Edge,
TP Gun + DI bullet (+40 MAB no MACC)
vs
TP Bow + DI Arrow (+20% WSD)

Looking to use this fully buffed, +8 rolls/igeo etc

This is a good question actually as the answer changes with buffs and the rest of your set, as Panta shared.

To add some numbers - Testing WSD:MAB relationship for other mag ws I got ~3.3 MAB to 1 WSD for low end sets, 3.8 MAB to 1 WSD for high end sets, and ~4.3 MAB to 1 WSD for top tier sets.

So with no buffs the 40mab may win, but as you asked for fully buffed, I would use the 20% wsd.
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By Shiva.Flowen 2020-04-05 14:28:07  
Does anyone know if flaming arrow has hate mechanics of an elemental weaponskill?
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By Shiva.Mortechai 2020-04-18 01:52:40  
Whats the difference between the different preshot sets? IE What does F0,F1,F2 refer to?
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By Asura.Friedrik 2020-04-18 02:02:08  
Shiva.Mortechai said: »
Whats the difference between the different preshot sets? IE What does F0,F1,F2 refer to?

Levels of Flurry you have; the difference is the amount of snapshot in the sets
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By Shiva.Mortechai 2020-04-18 02:28:25  
Asura.Friedrik said: »
Shiva.Mortechai said: »
Whats the difference between the different preshot sets? IE What does F0,F1,F2 refer to?

Levels of Flurry you have; the difference is the amount of snapshot in the sets

Ty! That clears that up.
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By Shiva.Siviard 2020-04-19 17:02:04  
Hello all.

I'm putting my Ranger back together and I was looking through the Snapshot sets and I noticed something.

I see that Taeon head with Snapshot +5 augment is listed. Wouldn't Amini Gapette +1 (empy 119 head) be a better option with it's Snapshot +7?
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By Shiva.Flowen 2020-04-19 17:06:14  
Shiva.Siviard said: »
Hello all.

I'm putting my Ranger back together and I was looking through the Snapshot sets and I noticed something.

I see that Taeon head with Snapshot +5 augment is listed. Wouldn't Amini Gapette +1 (empy 119 head) be a better option with it's Snapshot +7?

Snapshot+10 on Taeon pieces,(5 from dusktip, 5 from leaftip)
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By Bahamut.Celebrindal 2020-04-19 17:13:33  
Shiva.Flowen said: »
Shiva.Siviard said: »
Hello all.

I'm putting my Ranger back together and I was looking through the Snapshot sets and I noticed something.

I see that Taeon head with Snapshot +5 augment is listed. Wouldn't Amini Gapette +1 (empy 119 head) be a better option with it's Snapshot +7?

Snapshot+10 on Taeon pieces,(5 from dusktip, 5 from leaftip)

QFT.


...and to pull the "old guy on the corner" and say you should be happy when ya didn't have to make Taeon Head/Body/Feet. Thanks, Oshosi/Meghananada.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2020-04-19 17:37:59  
So for last stand I'm currently using Relic+3 body/feet over Herculean. I'm just so sick of playing Oseem F*ck F*ck Games. They seem viable due to their amount of AGI, RATK, STR, and Racc. As an added bonus they all have large chunks of -enmity on them.

Thoughts?

I must of burned a couple thousands stones, it just seems hard to roll AGI:10~15 Racc/Ratk+30-ish and WSDMG+4~5

I just throw whatever I can get at Oseem, Ferns are easy enough to farm and Taupe/Pellucids are cheap.

I did get a nice pair of Herc feet for Coronach though.
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feet={ name="Herculean Boots", augments={'Rng.Acc.+23 Rng.Atk.+23','Weapon skill damage +4%','DEX+8',}},
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By Prong 2020-04-19 17:47:35  
Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
I must of burned a couple thousands stones

I call this Tuesday.
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By Shiva.Siviard 2020-04-19 17:52:11  
Shiva.Flowen said: »
Shiva.Siviard said: »
Hello all.

I'm putting my Ranger back together and I was looking through the Snapshot sets and I noticed something.

I see that Taeon head with Snapshot +5 augment is listed. Wouldn't Amini Gapette +1 (empy 119 head) be a better option with it's Snapshot +7?

Snapshot+10 on Taeon pieces,(5 from dusktip, 5 from leaftip)

Oh wow, I wasn't aware I could get another +5 from Dusktip. But question now is, am I in the mood to gamble with randomness? At the moment, not really.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2020-04-19 17:53:28  
Prong said: »
Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
I must of burned a couple thousands stones

I call this Tuesday.
More like 4 x a Couple
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By Asura.Maestrel 2020-04-20 04:38:05  
Does the hangaku-no-yumi work the same as the trial bow ? They both have TP Bonus +1000
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By HyperKTM 2020-04-20 04:39:50  
Tp bonus only works for archery ws
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By Shiva.Siviard 2020-04-20 18:40:57  
Sorry for the dumb question but....I'm doing some min/maxing on my Store TP set and had something peculiar happen.

Normally, Last Stand returns 211 TP. But a moment ago, it returned 411 TP. I'm RNG/WAR and my initial hunch is a Double Attack proc, but is that possible with a Ranged WS?

Again, sorry for the dumb question
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By Asura.Friedrik 2020-04-20 18:49:16  
Sounds like a max conserve TP proc
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By Shiva.Siviard 2020-04-20 19:47:26  
Asura.Friedrik said: »
Sounds like a max conserve TP proc

Didn't consider that. TBH I don't think I've ever seen a max proc before. This is definitely a first if that is indeed the case.
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By kunami 2020-05-01 10:25:21  
Shiva.Mortechai said: »
Asura.Friedrik said: »
Shiva.Mortechai said: »
Whats the difference between the different preshot sets? IE What does F0,F1,F2 refer to?

Levels of Flurry you have; the difference is the amount of snapshot in the sets

Ty! That clears that up.


Added a little blurb about that to the TP set header.
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2020-05-05 21:44:16  
This is what I use.

ItemSet 371903

herc augmented with macc/mab/wsd (agi if your lucky)
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2020-05-06 00:20:05  
I'm Assuming you need the following augments on Herc to beat the AF/Relic+3- WSDMG+10 Pieces?

MACC/MATK+30 WSDMG+4~5?

More Oseem "Fun" wooo.... Always willing to improve, here is what I've been using.
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sets.WS['Trueflight'] = { 
head="Orion Beret +3",
    body={ name="Carm. Sc. Mail +1", augments={'Attack+20','"Mag.Atk.Bns."+12','"Dbl.Atk."+4',}},
    hands={ name="Carmine Fin. Ga. +1", augments={'Rng.Atk.+20','"Mag.Atk.Bns."+12','"Store TP"+6',}},
    legs={ name="Arc. Braccae +3", augments={'Enhances "Eagle Eye Shot" effect',}},
    feet={ name="Herculean Boots", augments={'Mag. Acc.+18 "Mag.Atk.Bns."+18','"Dbl.Atk."+2','INT+8','Mag. Acc.+15','"Mag.Atk.Bns."+15',}},
    neck="Scout's Gorget +2",
    waist="Eschan Stone",
    left_ear={ name="Moonshade Earring", augments={'Accuracy+4','TP Bonus +250',}},
    right_ear="Friomisi Earring",
    left_ring="Dingir Ring",
    right_ring="Regal Ring",
    back={ name="Belenus's Cape", augments={'AGI+20','Mag. Acc+20 /Mag. Dmg.+20','Weapon skill damage +10%',}}, }





Taeketsu said: »
Can someone give me a quick run down of what I should be shooting for (harharhar) on Trueflight/wildfire guns? I don't have a Gastra and not building one anytime soon. Just looking to see what my top 3 options would be from there. Currently have an r15 annih.


Not to be mean but Anni isn't the greatest gun for magical weaponskills. If you aren't making a Gastra I highly recommend making an Aeonic Gun.



Base gun has Magic Damage+155, Macc+40 and a TP Bonus.

Augments Include:
DMG: +9
Last Stand: Damage +10%
Ranged Accuracy +30 & Magic Accuracy +30

R15 Foma will be sitting at +70 Macc which will make things a bit more consistent, and Trueflights will hit hard even around 1000TP-1250TP combined with Moonshade for a +750TP bonus.

2nd Best only to Gastra, it also allows you excellent physical ranged damage in addition to creating Radiance/Umbra if an aftermath is up.

The Third best is probably Arma due to it's massive AGI Boost.


Augments Include:
DMG: +8
Wildfire: Damage +10%
STR & AGI +20

The AGI bonus alone is +70 which is pretty huge. It also boosts Wildfire by 10% which isn't bad when it needs to be used.
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By Bahamut.Celebrindal 2020-05-06 03:06:00  
The generally assumed ranking of Ranger RMEA options when it comes to Trueflight is

<2000TP
1.Gastraphetes
2.Fomalhaut
3.Armageddon

>2000TP
1.Gastraphetes
2.Armageddon
3.Fomalhaut

-this assumes using TP bonus Moonshade Earring (and who doesn't?)

-at 2250, the TP bonus from Fomalhaut+Moonshade becomes moot, and due to the massive amount of AGI on Armageddon, its actually somewhere around 2000TP where Armageddon starts to win out.

-Also, never forget about Weatherspoon Ring for your Seekers reward option. Light affinity is INCREDIBLY rare in this game...more rare than Darkness affinity. The problem with Seekers of Adoulin reward has always been that there's too many good options. But if Ranger is one of your primary jobs, Weatherspoon gives you something that nothing else in the game can.
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By Asura.Aerox 2020-05-06 05:58:06  
Bahamut.Celebrindal said: »
-Also, never forget about Weatherspoon Ring for your Seekers reward option. Light affinity is INCREDIBLY rare in this game...more rare than Darkness affinity. The problem with Seekers of Adoulin reward has always been that there's too many good options. But if Ranger is one of your primary jobs, Weatherspoon gives you something that nothing else in the game can.

Cannot stress this enough! As career RNG i wouldn't be without it and i really don't miss the other options at all. Ring is also useful for macc for mage jobs too. Unless a crafter it's really worth considering if you plan to be a Dyna D RNG.

With DM campaign coming up again I would look to get herc legs with some macc and 30+mab too. Have 19 macc and 47 mab on mine.
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2020-05-07 17:10:28  
Fenrir.Kaldaek said: »
This is what I use.

ItemSet 371903

herc augmented with macc/mab/wsd (agi if your lucky)


Quick question on melee trueflight.

Orpheus Sash vs. Hachirin-no-obi.

OSash would be Affinity +15 = 1.15x total magic damage

Hachirin-no-obi would be 25% bonus for magic matching double weather (I think?)

Is the answer as simple as 1.25(hachirin) > 1.15(osash) ?
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By Bahamut.Celebrindal 2020-05-07 17:17:34  
If you're in melee range, Orpheus Sash should easily win over Obi.
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2020-05-07 17:22:26  
Bahamut.Celebrindal said: »
If you're in melee range, Orpheus Sash should easily win over Obi.


Even with aurorastorm2? Does storm still help trueflight then if im not using hachirin?

I think that with aurorastorm2 obi > osash?
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By Viciouss 2020-05-07 20:17:46  
Just a quick question, AF+3 hands have to be equipped just when activating Barrage, or while shooting as well?
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By sabrtooth 2020-05-07 21:45:19  
hi all,

i finally got a kraken club for ranger.

may i know the setup and buff for it to work on endgame content like SR, omen and dynamis?

is it good for only trueflight setup ? how about savage blade? trying to get the wsd20 arrow next week.

thank you all and have a good weekend!
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