You'll Shoot Your Eye Out! - New FFXI RNG Guide

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By Vaerix 2022-02-15 15:25:01  
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
I openly call Ranger my Princess Job in tribute to "The Princess and The Pea"- if even one thing is off, we suffer ;) We are quite the demanding DD in our own ways that because we're outnumbered by melee DD options, feel annoying to others^^

And the scenario you describe simply isn't always available, and effects the overall performance of either weapon. This is why spreadsheeting drives me batshit- sure, when everything is perfect and you can essentially take all responsibility regarding game mechanics from the Ranger and let them unleash hell, then sure, go for it.

If you want to bring a SCH to a fight like Arebati, it can have great tools- Embrava giving some Snapshot, Animus Mineo, and a 1hr of Caper Emisarrus. Or, you could bring a RDM, adding Dia3, Flurry2, and heavy landing enfeebles (yes, you can effectively enfeeble all the A3 NMs on V20, just not every enfeeble), along with better tools to help the RUN than a SCH brings for that particular fight...at the expense of simply having the Ranger change the weapon they use. So why put responsibility on others when you can still perform at an extremely high level and make life easier for everyone?

Regarding AM3 maintenance on Armageddon (or any Empyrean)- I find those easiest to maintain because if you're bringing them into play, its not for a 35k Last Stand- its for 30k doubleshots without a 2 second lockout after WS. So more often than not I'm sitting on TP anyways, and the Wildfire is actually a loss of DPS not just in raw numbers, but in time lost.

"Your Party's Strengths"...my party isn't there just to make me look pretty and make my job simpler. They're there so we all can succeed with the most predictable way possible with as few variables to balance. Just a different approach, I guess.

The princess, I appreciate this statement so wholy. When we were messing around with Arebati trying to test other comps to complete v20 it always felt like missing 1 thing wrecks rng damage and I didn't know how to explain it. Yes. Ranger is the princess.

As far as Arebati and sch vs rdm, the fight has a lot going on that rdm would be hard pressed to keep up with we even tried rdm/sch and dropping a support (the princess didn't appreciate this), but eventually we got the kill by murdering using caper and letting the princess go to town. Ironically, I appreciate this metaphor but it's sad because I'm the princess in the story... qq
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2022-02-18 01:44:54  
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Regarding AM3 maintenance on Armageddon (or any Empyrean)- I find those easiest to maintain because if you're bringing them into play, its not for a 35k Last Stand- its for 30k doubleshots without a 2 second lockout after WS. So more often than not I'm sitting on TP anyways, and the Wildfire is actually a loss of DPS not just in raw numbers, but in time lost.

Totally agreed. And in addition to that:

RNG isn't exactly a job that finds it too difficult to get TP in the first place. You can usually just Barrage > 3000tp WS. We're usually getting a lot of TP/hit with Samurai Roll, sometimes you'll have Double Shot up, etc.

My tanks tend to appreciate when I just build 3000tp at the start of a fight with normal shots while they establish hate on the mob, then I get AM3 and the "real fight" begins. And then I just save my first Barrage for when AM3 drops (2nd AM3), build TP again naturally for 3rd AM3, and have Barrage back up for 4th AM3.

Camouflage is also sometimes viable, and will generally leave you with 3000tp if you've been firing away with low enmity/high crit rate. If AM3 wears, or if Camo wears very soon before AM is set to expire, you'll have TP ready to go to reapply AM3.
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By Autherius 2022-02-22 14:16:56  
Hello All! Great information here! Anyone have a Lua I can take a look at some of the more detailed sets? TP, Savage Blade, etc. Thank you!
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By Ranoutofspace 2022-02-26 18:26:08  
Is all RNG AF still used in some capacity?
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By Asura.Topace 2022-02-26 18:51:01  
I would say everything but the feet are important.

Head:Weaponskills
Body:Midshot
Hands: Barrage
Legs: Snapshot

Though if you don't have any movement speed gear then the feet are nice I suppose.
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By Ranoutofspace 2022-02-26 19:07:12  
Just to clarify a bit in my thinking...

Head - Rapid Shot +18% is BiS for preshot with flurry? WS as well if you don't have Nyame R20/25 - otherwise Nyame will win.
Body - For midshot...if using Camouflage? Otherwise between Nisroch and Ikenga Body R25, I don't see this winning for midshot.
Hands - Hands down winner for barrage due to "Barrage +1".
Legs - BiS for preshot if not getting Flurry? Otherwise use Adhemar, but still beneficial for the Sharpshot boost.
Feet - BiS for...Scavenge. And movement speed +18% if you didn't upgrade Jute Boots.

Sounds about right?
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By Nariont 2022-02-26 19:17:45  
barrage +3 for hands assuming you +3 it, yeah, also shadowbind increase per +1.

head is still your best rapid shot piece from memory, assuming you've capped out SS.

legs your highest SS piece by 5, though if you have a fully aug'd adhemar that's a fine alternative, may eve nbe better with the RS on it, not sure.

Body is just a JA swap far as im concerned, theres better midshot pieces and sounds like you have some already.

Feet is as said, just a nice mov speed option if you didnt grab jute boots which inventory wise is what i preferred
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By Ramuh.Austar 2022-02-26 19:26:43  
Ranoutofspace said: »
Head - Rapid Shot +18% is BiS for preshot with flurry?
Yes, you'd use AF+3 even with flurry 1.

Ranoutofspace said: »
Legs - BiS for preshot if not getting Flurry?
If you're using perun, then adhemar+1 will still be better even without flurry.

There are a lot of "bis" combinations based on perun/gastra/flurry 1 or 2.
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By Bahamut.Belkin 2022-02-26 20:23:31  
What's the Last Stand set looking like these days, boys?
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By Ranoutofspace 2022-02-26 20:46:40  
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Ranoutofspace said: »
Head - Rapid Shot +18% is BiS for preshot with flurry?
Yes, you'd use AF+3 even with flurry 1.

Ranoutofspace said: »
Legs - BiS for preshot if not getting Flurry?
If you're using perun, then adhemar+1 will still be better even without flurry.

There are a lot of "bis" combinations based on perun/gastra/flurry 1 or 2.

Good stuff! Guess I should have clarified to mean "are there any pieces not used in any set under any condition" so that I can skip farming cards for it during this campaign. Seems they all have a use somewhere so 5/5 it is!
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2022-02-27 07:52:37  
Ranoutofspace said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Ranoutofspace said: »
Head - Rapid Shot +18% is BiS for preshot with flurry?
Yes, you'd use AF+3 even with flurry 1.

Ranoutofspace said: »
Legs - BiS for preshot if not getting Flurry?
If you're using perun, then adhemar+1 will still be better even without flurry.

There are a lot of "bis" combinations based on perun/gastra/flurry 1 or 2.

Good stuff! Guess I should have clarified to mean "are there any pieces not used in any set under any condition" so that I can skip farming cards for it during this campaign. Seems they all have a use somewhere so 5/5 it is!

Ranger's preshot sets have really evolved in the past 5 years, in a very similar way to how BLM's burst sets have. Used to be that such sets were very restrictive in terms of "how" to get to capped Snapshot, in particular under no Flurry/Flurry I situations. But now, its not nearly the case, and capping Snapshot can be done numerous ways- the little improvements between sets come in keeping that capped Snapshot with as much Rapid Shot, not losing a massive chunk of HP over idle/shooting sets, and some safety. So as your options grow, the snapshot amount doesn't change- it just hits the cap with fewer sacrifices and more icing.

BLMs used to have to work really dang hard to hit that Magic Burst Bonus cap of 40. But in this same timeframe, now they face the fact that hitting MBB1+40 is a cakewalk, and its all about maxxing the other things while keeping that base.

So let your Preshot sets grow with time- you'll be highly functional quickly, but only get better as you gear options grow.
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By Weeew 2022-03-03 12:39:31  
New BCNM Drops


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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2022-03-03 12:46:51  
Is that a Gastraphetes in your pocket, or are you just happy to see those amazing drops... Oh, it's both!

That axe looks like it has the pulse glow. I'm sure it will look amazing, but that fills me with terror about drop rate, especially coming after the terribad Shinryu HTBF experience.
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By Asura.Topace 2022-03-03 12:49:03  
holy ***
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By Asura.Bippin 2022-03-03 12:49:40  
What?
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2022-03-03 12:57:58  
That shield is also gonna make RNG/DRG verrrry appealing for Gastra/TF use and prob gonna become my default sub. No need for offhand Malevolence for WS damage that makes /DNC and /NIN so great now, so trade that out in favor of the /DRG WS Damage Boost trait. 10% from trait (at /DRG55), those amazing extra light elemental affinity stats... Trueflight gonna be a total monster, even more than it already is. They just better not be trolling and have next event full of mobs that resist light.

I also like the concept in that these pieces are so strong for Trueflight that it encourages use of actual RANGED weapon skills on RANGER, instead of being... another great Savage Blade job (/eyeroll). I hope to see this as a continued trend in other jobs to pump up their more traditionally job-oriented weapons/WS, and give people reasons to get away from the incredibly boring Savage meta. Here's hoping for similar stuff like Dark Affinity weapons for COR, buffs to katana WS for NIN, etc...

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holy ***
Asura.Topace said: »
holy

Pun intended? Hehehehe...
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By Penpenn 2022-03-03 12:59:51  
Where is this information from? I feel like I'm out of the loop or missed an inside scoop.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2022-03-03 13:01:31  
Sweet Mary Mother of God.
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By Bahamut.Omegus 2022-03-03 13:02:21  
Does Cor need more when they have pixie hairpin and archon ring
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By Bahamut.Svedin 2022-03-03 13:05:00  
I bet it's gonna be another BCNM with a ***droprate, and since the items are both for RNG I doubt you're gonna be able to get a group together for it.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2022-03-03 13:11:09  
So.....about fixing Archery.....who's now still worried about that? ;)
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By Odin.Daemonak 2022-03-03 13:13:54  
Would be happy to be wrong, and I might just be seeing things... but those images look edited to me (spacing and capitalization on parts of the shield, gradient shading on the axe, etc). Gonna call sus for now.
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By Asura.Topace 2022-03-03 13:14:53  
I wouldn't mind a Weapon or ring that had Fire elemental+ so I can play around with Flaming Arrow.
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By Leviathan.Isiolia 2022-03-03 13:21:44  
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I wouldn't mind a Weapon or ring that had Fire elemental+ so I can play around with Flaming Arrow.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Perfervid_Sword ?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2022-03-03 13:24:27  
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Where is this information from? I feel like I'm out of the loop or missed an inside scoop.
it's fake
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By Asura.Topace 2022-03-03 13:25:38  
Leviathan.Isiolia said: »
Asura.Topace said: »
I wouldn't mind a Weapon or ring that had Fire elemental+ so I can play around with Flaming Arrow.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Perfervid_Sword ?
o.o Looks like I know what i'll be farming
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-03 13:25:39  
Weeew is a top notch troll, indeed, all the claps

Keep outdoing themselves, bravo.

(You definitely oversold the defense though, a thing most people won't even glance at) Actually you didn't, it's the AH search doesn't show ilvl shields when you search by subhand
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By Bahamut.Svedin 2022-03-03 13:32:48  
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Weeew is a top notch troll, indeed, all the claps

Keep outdoing themselves, bravo.

(You definitely oversold the defense though, a thing most people won't even glance at)
Defense is the same as Nusku though?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-03 13:33:59  
I went to check cause it seemed wrong, AH advanced search shows zero ilvl shields when you search subhand

That's a solid bug right there; https://www.ffxiah.com/search/item?&slots[]=2#adv

Actually advanced search might be totally broken atm lol it's not getting even mainhands with ilvl depending how you search.
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