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By Viciouss 2019-07-18 11:59:44  
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Trump's NC tantrum

As expected, I see no sweeping comments about a minority group being told to leave the country.

As expected, you are completely ignoring his original tweets that started this losing streak for him, when he told 4 US Citizens (3 of which were born in the USA and have never left) to go back to their home country. Its like you are just cherry picking the facts to cover for him.
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By Eboneezer 2019-07-18 12:02:48  
no, i saw his tweets that 4 people stood up and raised their hands to claim to be the target of.

You said he wanted American minorities to leave the country. I'm trying to find that quote.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-07-18 12:06:08  
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Trump's NC tantrum

As expected, I see no sweeping comments about a minority group being told to leave the country.

As expected, you are completely ignoring his original tweets that started this losing streak for him, when he told 4 US Citizens (3 of which were born in the USA and have never left) to go back to their home country. Its like you are just cherry picking the facts to cover for him.
More like so tired of the left crying wolf on being racist that it no longer can be taken seriously, when the left crys about it more and more.

We shouldn't have to take lessons in morality from people that would not condemn OPEN Anti-Semites in their midst.

Your Homeboy Steve King was condemned by his own party. Now the Racist Pelosi (I call her racist because someone pulled the race card on her, and I oblige to that card), can't get her party to condemn Anti-Semite remarks.

So don't be surprised that:
1: Republicans played by rules and condemned racists
2: Democrats DID NOT play by same rules Republicans did, and didn't condemn a bigot
3: Democrats crying for racism when they won't play by same rules.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-07-18 12:07:13  
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no, i saw his tweets that 4 people stood up and raised their hands to claim to be the target of.

You said he wanted American minorities to leave the country. I'm trying to find that quote.
While you're at it, can you find his one about "Military Assault Weapons" because I am still waiting for his answer on what that means to him.
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By Eboneezer 2019-07-18 12:07:16  
And you believe that his comments were aimed at their race as opposed to their agenda. Correct? Not trying to put words in your mouth, just clarifying where you stand.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-07-18 12:07:43  
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Yes it is. Making ***up to justify it doesn't do anything. See how easy this is?
Yup
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-07-18 12:16:14  
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I've always known we are evil!
Are...you also a Taru???

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We created Justin Bieber, what other proof do you need?
Oh GAWD. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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By Eboneezer 2019-07-18 12:16:44  
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and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....

Exactly. Our government is one of the most powerful/successful governments on this earth. The government that you left was a joke. Come up with solutions on how to fix the one in shambles and then come back and tell us how to do it.

It's an attack on agenda. He didn't tell somebody to take their black *** back to wherever. The Dems are the ones that are trying to insinuate that.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-07-18 12:21:30  
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and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....

Exactly. Our government is one of the most powerful/successful governments on this earth. The government that you left was a joke. Come up with solutions on how to fix the one in shambles and then come back and tell us how to do it.

It's an attack on agenda. He didn't tell somebody to take their black *** back to wherever. The Dems are the ones that are trying to insinuate that.
Excuse me sir, you are oppressing me. I would like moneh for it. Ohhh and equal distribution of your stuff you worked hard for and I get some of it too that I didn't work for please.
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By Nausi 2019-07-18 12:23:50  
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As recently as last night in North Carolina.

As a Cubs fan once said, please list your source/actual quote

Trump's NC tantrum

This is of course, just the most recent instance. Its been going on all week, watching his defenders struggle with it has been amusing. The Democrats are of course, just fine knowing nothing he says is true.

Doesn't post the source or the actual quote, just posts some news agency claiming “orange man bad”

As predicted Vic avoids the request
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By Viciouss 2019-07-18 12:26:26  
lol, a Steve King reference? Think that's gonna work? He got away with blatant racism for the entire 8 years his party had the House. The GOP did nothing until they weren't in control anymore and their votes meant nothing. Only then did they remove him from committee assignments, when it didn't matter anymore. So no, no points are awarded. Nice rant tho.
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By Eboneezer 2019-07-18 12:28:13  
His original tweet even has "Progressive" in quotes. He's 100% attacking their agendas and discrediting them. All the while, forcing the hands of Pelosi and the other Dems to choose to either defend the crazies, or divide the party further. They chose to defend the crazies. When they embrace those ideals, the votes in the center will either head to Trump, or they won't vote at all. You can hate him all you want, but it's all intentional and a good strategy. Hell, if they keep calling Pelosi racist, she might actually see how insane the left has become and vote for Trump herself.
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By Nausi 2019-07-18 12:28:26  
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I won't bother but if you want to know if it's racist or not, go tell people of color at your workplace to go back where they came from. Let me know if HR agrees with you!

I didn't think so.

Somebody just transferred to our department. Their department has all kinds of problems. Ours is running smooth. I'm sure if I told them to go back and fix the department they came from before trying to tell us how to run ours, and it went to HR....HR would tell me it's rude. They absolutely would not tell me it's racist.

Nobody would care if you told a person to go back to the department they came from. Shiroi's original test he clearly challenged people to go tell a person to tell a minority to go back to the COUNTRY they came from. Its not the same, at all. Its a great way to get fired. If someone here in Texas tells a Hispanic customer to go back to Mexico, they are gonna be fired.
1) Nobody told anyone who lives here go back to their home country.
2) Telling anyone to go back to their home country is not racist.
3) Once again, the standard of you can tell anyone BUT racial minorities (or black or brown people to go back home, is 100% a race based policy, and exposes a fundamental belief in racism.

This is the corner YOU have been exposed to populate.

1. Yes, Trump did. He told 4 American Congresswomen to do EXACTLY that.
2. Yes it is lol.
3. Uh huh, sure. Telling people to go back to their country is racist and xenophobic. Making up a lie that these people "hate America" and are "pro-Al Qaeda" to try to justify it changes nothing. Especially since its not even remotely true.

Yhis is factually inaccurate, spurs on no doubt by Vic not really knowing what happened.

1)He told unnamed people to go back home, not get out of the country.
2) Then explain how telling anyone to go home has anything to do with their race.
3) Stop justifying your own racism.
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By Viciouss 2019-07-18 12:29:16  
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and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....

Exactly. Our government is one of the most powerful/successful governments on this earth. The government that you left was a joke. Come up with solutions on how to fix the one in shambles and then come back and tell us how to do it.

It's an attack on agenda. He didn't tell somebody to take their black *** back to wherever. The Dems are the ones that are trying to insinuate that.

Right? They didn't leave a country. Their American born. Derails the whole attack.

You'd almost have a point if the previous tweet didn't clearly state he's talking about them coming from other COUNTRIES.

You can try spinning it however you wan't, it's racism.
 
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By Eboneezer 2019-07-18 12:29:23  
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You'd almost have a point if the previous tweet didn't clearly state he's talking about them coming from other COUNTRIES.

who is them?
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By Viciouss 2019-07-18 12:30:37  
that quote is messed up, obviously
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By Eboneezer 2019-07-18 12:31:18  
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You'd almost have a point if the previous tweet didn't clearly state he's talking about them coming from other COUNTRIES.
So I'll ask you specifically then. If I told Dave Matthews to go back to his country because he didn't like our music, would I be racist?
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By Viciouss 2019-07-18 12:31:25  
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I won't bother but if you want to know if it's racist or not, go tell people of color at your workplace to go back where they came from. Let me know if HR agrees with you!

I didn't think so.

Somebody just transferred to our department. Their department has all kinds of problems. Ours is running smooth. I'm sure if I told them to go back and fix the department they came from before trying to tell us how to run ours, and it went to HR....HR would tell me it's rude. They absolutely would not tell me it's racist.

Nobody would care if you told a person to go back to the department they came from. Shiroi's original test he clearly challenged people to go tell a person to tell a minority to go back to the COUNTRY they came from. Its not the same, at all. Its a great way to get fired. If someone here in Texas tells a Hispanic customer to go back to Mexico, they are gonna be fired.
1) Nobody told anyone who lives here go back to their home country.
2) Telling anyone to go back to their home country is not racist.
3) Once again, the standard of you can tell anyone BUT racial minorities (or black or brown people to go back home, is 100% a race based policy, and exposes a fundamental belief in racism.

This is the corner YOU have been exposed to populate.

1. Yes, Trump did. He told 4 American Congresswomen to do EXACTLY that.
2. Yes it is lol.
3. Uh huh, sure. Telling people to go back to their country is racist and xenophobic. Making up a lie that these people "hate America" and are "pro-Al Qaeda" to try to justify it changes nothing. Especially since its not even remotely true.

This remains factual. It's that easy nausi.
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By Viciouss 2019-07-18 12:35:11  
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His original tweet even has "Progressive" in quotes. He's 100% attacking their agendas and discrediting them. All the while, forcing the hands of Pelosi and the other Dems to choose to either defend the crazies, or divide the party further. They chose to defend the crazies. When they embrace those ideals, the votes in the center will either head to Trump, or they won't vote at all. You can hate him all you want, but it's all intentional and a good strategy. Hell, if they keep calling Pelosi racist, she might actually see how insane the left has become and vote for Trump herself.

This is just delusion. The fact that he kept the racist, xenophobic attacks going last night just makes it easier to vote against him. More and more GOP congressman are cracking, they want him to stop, while the Dems stand completely united. The headache is just going to get worse for the right, it's not like Trump is gonna stop.
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By Nausi 2019-07-18 12:35:14  
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Trump's NC tantrum

As expected, I see no sweeping comments about a minority group being told to leave the country.

Trump doesn't tell them to leave, he clearly states they come from other countries and they should go back there if they aren't happy.

The point being, they are all american citizens and only 1 of them isn't born in America.

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So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, ,who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......

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....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....
you’re assuming the congresswomen he meant all came from someplace inside the country and you’re assuming go home means leave the country.

Neither are valid assumptions based on what he sadi but what does that matter when you see an opportunity to cry racist and get offended.
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By Nausi 2019-07-18 12:40:41  
Vic can’t social construct his way to “it’s racist because we say so” he will eject from this ride of logic and reason as soon as he realizes it.
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By Eboneezer 2019-07-18 12:41:30  
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while the Dems stand completely united

Right, that's the goal. They're leaving their base and uniting around the ones with no approval.
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By Viciouss 2019-07-18 12:50:58  
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while the Dems stand completely united

Right, that's the goal. They're leaving their base and uniting around the ones with no approval.

They aren't leaving their base. They are standing up for their fellow Congressman's rights as Amercians. It's not about their ideology anymore, so it's easy to stand with them without supporting their Socialism.
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By Viciouss 2019-07-18 12:54:21  
Nausi said: »
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Trump's NC tantrum

As expected, I see no sweeping comments about a minority group being told to leave the country.

Trump doesn't tell them to leave, he clearly states they come from other countries and they should go back there if they aren't happy.

The point being, they are all american citizens and only 1 of them isn't born in America.

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So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, ,who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......

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....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....
you’re assuming the congresswomen he meant all came from someplace inside the country and you’re assuming go home means leave the country.

Neither are valid assumptions based on what he sadi but what does that matter when you see an opportunity to cry racist and get offended.

This doesn't even make sense. No one is assuming anything.
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By Nausi 2019-07-18 12:57:09  
Viciouss said: »
Nausi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Eboneezer said: »
Viciouss said: »
Trump's NC tantrum

As expected, I see no sweeping comments about a minority group being told to leave the country.

Trump doesn't tell them to leave, he clearly states they come from other countries and they should go back there if they aren't happy.

The point being, they are all american citizens and only 1 of them isn't born in America.

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So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, ,who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......

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....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....
you’re assuming the congresswomen he meant all came from someplace inside the country and you’re assuming go home means leave the country.

Neither are valid assumptions based on what he sadi but what does that matter when you see an opportunity to cry racist and get offended.

This doesn't even make sense. No one is assuming anything.

So where does it say they should “leave the country”?
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