Soloing ODIN

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By Valefor.Gorns 2019-09-19 10:28:02  
Hello !

Any RDM here who would have soloed Odin HTB in D or VD (w/ or w/o Trusts) ?

I have no problem in soloing N, but as soon as I try D, I'm facing 2 difficulties:

- enspells dmg getting resisted, although I'm swinging my daggers with gears with Macc. But you need good balance between macc for enspells to not being resisted and acc for being able to hit. My food is Pear Crepe.

- Silence : it happens to me a few times in D mode, when silence wears off, he cast immediatly stun > drain > hit > I'm dead. Not sure if I could handle that either by being lucky and praying for Odin to cast endark and dreadspikes.
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By SimonSes 2019-09-19 10:55:02  
Get Malignance set.
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2019-09-19 11:03:51  
Tropical crepes have twice as much macc too.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-09-19 11:39:43  
Don't know how viable it is on notasura but the stewpots are great for it. Acc And macc. And it's a 6 hour food if you go somewhere with double food duration.

Even with perfect everything and support you're going to get some resists... And bad luck happens.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2019-09-19 11:47:52  
Bad luck takes time to proc
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By Asura.Zeroburning 2019-09-19 13:53:02  
when i did it i just started meleeing in a hybrid Macc & melee set my 6 hit dose like 2736 in enspell dmg
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By Valefor.Gorns 2019-09-20 04:39:48  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Don't know how viable it is on notasura but the stewpots are great for it. Acc And macc. And it's a 6 hour food if you go somewhere with double food duration.

Even with perfect everything and support you're going to get some resists... And bad luck happens.

Yeah, I guess I will have to upgrade my macc food, I will try stewpots or the tropical crepe on next attempt.

Asura.Zeroburning said: »
when i did it i just started meleeing in a hybrid Macc & melee set my 6 hit dose like 2736 in enspell dmg

6 hits for 2736, so 456 enspell dmg /hit ? I'm far from that, I'm capping at +350-ish.
This is my melee set (mix of macc and acc):

sets.engaged.DW.Odin.MidHaste = {
main="Wind Knife",
sub="Wind Knife",
range="Kaja Bow",
head="Carmine Mask +1",
body="Ayanmo Corazza +2",
hands="Aya. Manopolas +2",
legs="Carmine Cuisses +1", --dw6
feet="Taeon Boots", --dw9
neck="Sanctity Necklace",
waist="Kentarch Belt +1",
left_ear="Mache Earring +1",
right_ear="Suppanomimi", --dw5 right_ring="Cacoethic Ring +1",
left_ring="Jhakri Ring",
back=gear.RDM_DW_Cape, --dw10
} --DW35/31

and enhancing skill set:

main="Pukulatmuj +1",
sub="Pukulatmuj",
head="Befouled Crown",
body="Viti. Tabard +3",
hands="Viti. Gloves +3",
legs="Atrophy Tights +1", -- to make +2 / +3
feet="Leth. Houseaux +1",
neck="Incanter's Torque",
waist="Olympus Sash",
ear1="Augment. Earring",
ear2="Andoaa Earring",
ring1={name="Stikini Ring", bag="wardrobe2"},
ring2={name="Stikini Ring", bag="wardrobe3"},
back="Ghostfyre Cape",
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By Asura.Cheeago 2019-09-20 07:51:49  
I'd have to check my set once I'm at home, but one thing that stands out is the waist - obviously the sash is choice - but lacking that, you can use Eschan Stone as an option. (Obi if weather/day match).
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By Asura.Botosi 2019-09-20 09:17:11  
Is Crocea Mors needed for this type of thing? I'd probably only want to solo N.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-09-20 09:27:10  
Asura.Botosi said: »
Is Crocea Mors needed for this type of thing? I'd probably only want to solo N.

No. The objective is to do absolutely zero melee damage to give zero tp.
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By Valefor.Gorns 2019-09-20 13:20:31  
Will have to save for the Orpheus Sash ...
 
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By Valefor.Gorns 2019-09-21 17:30:04  
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The Qutrub knife which is in Ambu this month is also D1 but 180 delay instead of 195.

Thanks for the info!
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By Shiva.Hiep 2019-09-23 19:45:12  
Valefor.Gorns said: »
Hello !

Any RDM here who would have soloed Odin HTB in D or VD (w/ or w/o Trusts) ?

I have no problem in soloing N, but as soon as I try D, I'm facing 2 difficulties:

- enspells dmg getting resisted, although I'm swinging my daggers with gears with Macc. But you need good balance between macc for enspells to not being resisted and acc for being able to hit. My food is Pear Crepe.

- Silence : it happens to me a few times in D mode, when silence wears off, he cast immediatly stun > drain > hit > I'm dead. Not sure if I could handle that either by being lucky and praying for Odin to cast endark and dreadspikes.

Here you go boss if you're still attempting this. Posting my lua for reference: https://pastebin.com/puyQHqpB
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By Valefor.Gorns 2019-09-24 13:26:41  
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Valefor.Gorns said: »
Hello !

Any RDM here who would have soloed Odin HTB in D or VD (w/ or w/o Trusts) ?

I have no problem in soloing N, but as soon as I try D, I'm facing 2 difficulties:

- enspells dmg getting resisted, although I'm swinging my daggers with gears with Macc. But you need good balance between macc for enspells to not being resisted and acc for being able to hit. My food is Pear Crepe.

- Silence : it happens to me a few times in D mode, when silence wears off, he cast immediatly stun > drain > hit > I'm dead. Not sure if I could handle that either by being lucky and praying for Odin to cast endark and dreadspikes.

Here you go boss if you're still attempting this. Posting my lua for reference: https://pastebin.com/puyQHqpB
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Nice !
This Malignance being mandatory for an VD attempt I guess ;)

Surprised you took so long before casting Silence.

Thanks for the vid
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By Chimerawizard 2019-09-24 13:51:26  
are 1dmg weapons needed to hit for 0?
I'd think any super weak weapon would be capable of consistant 0dmg.
beestinger
platoon dagger
kraken club
if only there was an item that gave firestorm... kyuka uchiwa +1
k.club I think would maybe push the limit since it's not rank0 fSTR.
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By tyalangan 2019-09-24 14:37:38  
Chimerawizard said: »
are 1dmg weapons needed to hit for 0?
I'd think any super weak weapon would be capable of consistant 0dmg.
beestinger
platoon dagger
kraken club
if only there was an item that gave firestorm... kyuka uchiwa +1
k.club I think would maybe push the limit since it's not rank0 fSTR.

Speaking about frog Ambu I was hitting for 1dmg with a 2dmg dagger on normal so you may need to have 1 dmg or have to do VD for higher def if you don’t want to use 1dmg dagger for whatever reason.
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By Valefor.Gorns 2019-09-24 14:54:55  
I remember doing some dmg with a dmg3 weapon on a crit hit
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By Chimerawizard 2019-09-24 15:02:59  
boo
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By Shiva.Hiep 2019-09-24 16:23:21  
Valefor.Gorns said: »
Shiva.Hiep said: »
Valefor.Gorns said: »
Hello !

Any RDM here who would have soloed Odin HTB in D or VD (w/ or w/o Trusts) ?

I have no problem in soloing N, but as soon as I try D, I'm facing 2 difficulties:

- enspells dmg getting resisted, although I'm swinging my daggers with gears with Macc. But you need good balance between macc for enspells to not being resisted and acc for being able to hit. My food is Pear Crepe.

- Silence : it happens to me a few times in D mode, when silence wears off, he cast immediatly stun > drain > hit > I'm dead. Not sure if I could handle that either by being lucky and praying for Odin to cast endark and dreadspikes.

Here you go boss if you're still attempting this. Posting my lua for reference: https://pastebin.com/puyQHqpB
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Nice !
This Malignance being mandatory for an VD attempt I guess ;)

Surprised you took so long before casting Silence.

Thanks for the vid

You could probably get by with Ayanmo +2 set but you're losing out on 46 ACC/MACC which helps. You'd have to ride Saboteur Frazzle and Distract III though. I rushed it near the end and had a regular Frazzle/Distract III and DPS plummeted for last 5%. I figured Odin would usually do its first Manafont around 83% so I usually just silence at that point. It's a guessing game for the silence part, you can usually only land 3-4 silences before Odin's silence duration really shrinks.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2019-09-25 08:12:43  
That's pretty incredible, probably a lot of leeway on that method if I were to bring BRD+GEO support? Or is hate going to be an issue with it bouncing around if Enspells don't contribute to enmity.
 
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By Pandemonium.Zeto 2019-09-25 09:52:35  
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »
That's pretty incredible, probably a lot of leeway on that method if I were to bring BRD+GEO support? Or is hate going to be an issue with it bouncing around if Enspells don't contribute to enmity.
You can make a cure cheat set for enmity issues. Strip naked+whatever -hp and convert hp to mp gear then balance cure pot+enmity+hp max heal yourself. Your limiting factor will probably be how much HP you can lose/gain so cure potency shouldn't be an issue. Below is a skeleton with 541HP with 46 enmity and 5 slots open to tweak more hp/enmity/cure pot as needed. An ambu cape is obviously also an option 4 more enmity but less HP.
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By Asura.Outlawbruce 2019-09-26 07:15:34  
I'm confused why those enspells were doing 1900 and into 2k? With those weapons it really shouldn't ever go above 472 or 500+/-

What was that all about?
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2019-09-26 08:25:05  
Battlemod, it coalesced the damage done by multi-attacks into a total for the round.
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By Asura.Outlawbruce 2019-09-26 08:26:52  
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »
Battlemod, it coalesced the damage done by multi-attacks into a total for the round.

Ah. Makes sense. Thank you.
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By Asura.Cheeago 2019-09-26 08:28:01  
All hits from the one attack round are added together so it appears this way in battlemod. When you see like 1600 dmg there was a (4) indicating it was the total from 4 hits - so about 400+ range a hit.
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-09-26 09:27:48  
All right! Tried my very first ever Odin solo attempt on... Easy.
Went down in 18 mins, isn't that a bit too much for Easy? o.O
Looking for ways to improve.

All debuffs were sticking easy except Silence and Blind2 which usually took me a couple of attempts, even with Saboteur up (especially the latter)

I kept the following debuffs up:
Frazzle3
Distract3
Slow2
Paralyze2
Addle2
Silence
Blind2

Avoided Poison/Bio/Dia because I assumed they give TP?

I was all buffed up myself with capped Temper2, Enspell of the day.
I used the following gear
Qutrub / Wind / Hasty+1
Malignance / Duelist+2 / Suppa / Eabani
Ayanmo+2 / Ayanmo+2 / Petrov / Heitaroi
Ambu / ReikiYotai / Taeonlegs / Taeonfeet

That's a total of ~20% Dual Wield. With Haste2 and /NIN that should be pretty much delay cap reduction or very close to that.
I was using no trusts at all because I assumed they would've *** up the enmity, but Elegy from Joachim could've been useful I suppose.
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By tyalangan 2019-09-26 09:44:50  
I thought haste2 with /nin required 31DW
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