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Dem Dems aiming at 2020
Asura.Saevel
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-04-02 11:43:58
And the mods still haven't banned Vic? The dude is violating the rules left and right. Anyone not on the left does that and it's met with harsh permanent penalties.
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Asura.Saevel
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-04-02 11:50:12
Just think of all the things the left used to be for and against, compared to what they are now. I could post videos of Nancy and Chuck from just 5-6 years ago, they literally sound like Trump in the things they were saying...now they say those things are bad.
They used to be for the worker, now they are for the illegals that replace them (and very vocally so, they don't even hide it).
They used to be for National manufacture, now they want our industries shut down and outsourced to China (vocally so).
They used to care more about the workers than the environment, now they would happily put millions out of work to keep Greenpeace happy.
They used to be for meritocracy, now they are for forced diversity by law (even when it hurts our nations, our nationally made products, research in STEM).
They used to be for simple equality, now they are for short lists.
The left used to be against racism, now they are the (reverse) racists.
The left used to be against sexism, now they are the (reverse) sexists.
The left used to be for borders, now they are against borders.
The left used to be for the nation state, now they embrace globalism.
The left used to herald heroism and hard work, now they herald victim status and handouts.
The left used to value success, now they value failure.
The left used to be for solidarity and inclusion, now they are for separation with identity politics and race hatred.
The left used to be run by the poor, for the poor and now they are millionaires for the millionaires (even Sanders is a damn millionaire, and all the hollywood actors and rich are shouting OrangeManBad on twitter)
Could go on and on.
Look who supports the parties, the left is supported by the toffs, the rich, the upper middle class. The (current) right is the opposite, the left wing media mocks them for being hicks, plebs, stupid, for being nationalists, for being proud of the flag etc. The supporters have switched, they switched for a reason.
All the things they used to be against, now have a little * next to them to explain why it's ok when they are the things they used to fight against.
The left used to be for all the things that are good and just, now they are a clear and present danger to the nation state and its populations. If Labour won in the UK or the Democrats won in the states, there would be no bright future it would be all sliding back into mediocrity, racial division and national decline. Some of you hate Trump more than you love your country, because if not you would not want these people to have power over it instead of someone that is succeeding in the things that he said he would do and that make our nations stronger. You can call Trump and Boris buffoons or whatever you want for how they speak but they love their nations and they will do what they need to do in order to make hem stronger best they can, the same does not apply to the left at all.
All the worst in our society, that are destroying it are on the left now (the arm flailing SJW, the 3rd wave man hating feminists, the antifa richkids, the race hustlers etc..hell this applies to some of your politicians like AoC, Omar, Maxine waters). Many supporters on the left mock these people, without realizing they are yours and worse than that is that they carry sway with your political leaders. Nancy was trying to add green new deal stuff, identity politics etc stuff to the stimulus bill and that shows how prevalent it is in the left.
Most who support Trump / Boris understand their failings, but their underlying message, their actions and desires are far better than that of the opposition. Trump did more in 3 years for the USA than Obama did in 8, only this pandemic has damaged that.
In the real world very few people support a party as if it's their football team, they vote for the party that relates to them and their wishes. Which is why parties normally win power in an on and off rotation. Because they lose for being potato powered and wise up, the problem now is the Labour party and the Democrats went full 12 year old and became le'resistarse and so are even more unelectable now then they were last time. Not only are they still pushing the garbage that leasd to their defeat the first time, they are obnoxious rich *** to go along with it too now.
The right on the other hand are doubling down on the populist things that got them elected and the "far right" are ostracized. So Labour represented you when they were opening the floodgates to the world? But now you resent them and are far right?
ooooooo kay
Well done.
Tony Blair and Obama was the start of the slide away from what the parties were, now the left are in full reverse and now may as well be totally different parties. Obama literally ushered in identity politics, racial relations are worse than ever because of it.
The decimation of the national workers, the national industries, embracing mass immigration (uneducated legal and illegal) and our utter and total reliance on China to a ridiculous degree happened under their watch.
The only good thing about Obama and Blair was their Oration, if not for the majority of the media sucking them off nobody would say any different.
Sorry was really long and didn't want a huge post chain. Most of that stuff is about voter demographics, middle / worker class white folks don't reproduce fast enough to breed more Democrat voters. Generational unemployables reproduce faster, so many baby daddies and such but tend to all stay in the same area. In order for the Democrats to take power and bring about the Communist Revolution they need to have near absolute control, in order to do that they need to produce voters much faster then Republicans. All research has shown that religious and political choices are largely determined by a person's parents and upbringing. So if the Democrats can bring in my left leaning young poor folks, they can bulk breed Democrat voters who will then in turn breed more Democrat voters and in a few more generations they'll be enough to just absolute the Constitution and vote themselves a Communist state.
That's an actual Progressive plan from decades ago.
By Viciouss 2020-04-02 11:53:11
And the mods still haven't banned Vic? The dude is violating the rules left and right. Anyone not on the left does that and it's met with harsh permanent penalties.
I'm not worried about getting banned for calling out a coward that takes shots at posters in this section while having them all blocked. Its called posting in bad faith, and Saevel is the only one guilty of it. The mods are aware of it, and since he hasn't stopped, neither will I.
Ragnarok.Ozment
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-04-02 12:40:03
And the mods still haven't banned Vic? The dude is violating the rules left and right. Anyone not on the left does that and it's met with harsh permanent penalties.
I'm not worried about getting banned for calling out a coward that takes shots at posters in this section while having them all blocked. Its called posting in bad faith, and Saevel is the only one guilty of it. The mods are aware of it, and since he hasn't stopped, neither will I.
In general, I don't think blocking is ever a wise choice. It limits the information being provided. It is the proverbial head-in-the-sand ostrich...if it doesn't see anything it doesn't like, then that must mean it doesn't exist. Of course, ostriches are stupid creatures, lacking the ability to face opposition.
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-02 13:18:04
And the mods still haven't banned Vic? The dude is violating the rules left and right. Anyone not on the left does that and it's met with harsh permanent penalties.
I'm not worried about getting banned for calling out a coward that takes shots at posters in this section while having them all blocked. Its called posting in bad faith, and Saevel is the only one guilty of it. The mods are aware of it, and since he hasn't stopped, neither will I.
In general, I don't think blocking is ever a wise choice. It limits the information being provided. It is the proverbial head-in-the-sand ostrich...if it doesn't see anything it doesn't like, then that must mean it doesn't exist. Of course, ostriches are stupid creatures, lacking the ability to face opposition.
Except for the fact that ostriches don’t actually do that. So I guess your analogy only works if you’re using the cartoon/urban legend version of the ostrich instead of the real ostrich which would be much more likely to kick the crap out of you if cornered.
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Ragnarok.Ozment
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-04-02 15:04:10
And the mods still haven't banned Vic? The dude is violating the rules left and right. Anyone not on the left does that and it's met with harsh permanent penalties.
I'm not worried about getting banned for calling out a coward that takes shots at posters in this section while having them all blocked. Its called posting in bad faith, and Saevel is the only one guilty of it. The mods are aware of it, and since he hasn't stopped, neither will I.
In general, I don't think blocking is ever a wise choice. It limits the information being provided. It is the proverbial head-in-the-sand ostrich...if it doesn't see anything it doesn't like, then that must mean it doesn't exist. Of course, ostriches are stupid creatures, lacking the ability to face opposition.
Except for the fact that ostriches don’t actually do that. So I guess your analogy only works if you’re using the cartoon/urban legend version of the ostrich instead of the real ostrich which would be much more likely to kick the crap out of you if cornered.
You of all people should know how right I am about blocking. You learned that lesson the hard way. :)
Garuda.Chanti
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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-04-02 15:25:58
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The right on the other hand are doubling down on the populist racist things that got them elected and the "far right" are ostracized. Fixed.
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Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-02 16:11:48
And the mods still haven't banned Vic? The dude is violating the rules left and right. Anyone not on the left does that and it's met with harsh permanent penalties.
I'm not worried about getting banned for calling out a coward that takes shots at posters in this section while having them all blocked. Its called posting in bad faith, and Saevel is the only one guilty of it. The mods are aware of it, and since he hasn't stopped, neither will I.
In general, I don't think blocking is ever a wise choice. It limits the information being provided. It is the proverbial head-in-the-sand ostrich...if it doesn't see anything it doesn't like, then that must mean it doesn't exist. Of course, ostriches are stupid creatures, lacking the ability to face opposition.
Except for the fact that ostriches don’t actually do that. So I guess your analogy only works if you’re using the cartoon/urban legend version of the ostrich instead of the real ostrich which would be much more likely to kick the crap out of you if cornered.
You of all people should know how right I am about blocking. You learned that lesson the hard way. :)
I have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re rarely right, and you have never taught me a lesson. Care to elaborate?
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Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-02 16:40:11
I bet Rav owns a MAGA hat and flywheel
Neither, but cool story.
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By Viciouss 2020-04-02 16:42:34
I bet Rav owns a MAGA hat and flywheel
Yeah I doubt it.
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Ragnarok.Ozment
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-04-02 17:27:10
And the mods still haven't banned Vic? The dude is violating the rules left and right. Anyone not on the left does that and it's met with harsh permanent penalties.
I'm not worried about getting banned for calling out a coward that takes shots at posters in this section while having them all blocked. Its called posting in bad faith, and Saevel is the only one guilty of it. The mods are aware of it, and since he hasn't stopped, neither will I.
In general, I don't think blocking is ever a wise choice. It limits the information being provided. It is the proverbial head-in-the-sand ostrich...if it doesn't see anything it doesn't like, then that must mean it doesn't exist. Of course, ostriches are stupid creatures, lacking the ability to face opposition.
Except for the fact that ostriches don’t actually do that. So I guess your analogy only works if you’re using the cartoon/urban legend version of the ostrich instead of the real ostrich which would be much more likely to kick the crap out of you if cornered.
You of all people should know how right I am about blocking. You learned that lesson the hard way. :)
I have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re rarely right, and you have never taught me a lesson. Care to elaborate?
Aw, don't you remember? You had me blocked at one point, and were under the erroneous impression that it prevented me from replying to you. I was surprised you didn't know all it did was prevent you from seeing my posts/replies. That's when you employed the services of Little Birdy to keep you up to date on my posts.
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-02 17:55:46
And the mods still haven't banned Vic? The dude is violating the rules left and right. Anyone not on the left does that and it's met with harsh permanent penalties.
I'm not worried about getting banned for calling out a coward that takes shots at posters in this section while having them all blocked. Its called posting in bad faith, and Saevel is the only one guilty of it. The mods are aware of it, and since he hasn't stopped, neither will I.
In general, I don't think blocking is ever a wise choice. It limits the information being provided. It is the proverbial head-in-the-sand ostrich...if it doesn't see anything it doesn't like, then that must mean it doesn't exist. Of course, ostriches are stupid creatures, lacking the ability to face opposition.
Except for the fact that ostriches don’t actually do that. So I guess your analogy only works if you’re using the cartoon/urban legend version of the ostrich instead of the real ostrich which would be much more likely to kick the crap out of you if cornered.
You of all people should know how right I am about blocking. You learned that lesson the hard way. :)
I have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re rarely right, and you have never taught me a lesson. Care to elaborate?
Aw, don't you remember? You had me blocked at one point, and were under the erroneous impression that it prevented me from replying to you. I was surprised you didn't know all it did was prevent you from seeing my posts/replies. That's when you employed the services of Little Birdy to keep you up to date on my posts.
Uh, no, I never assumed it meant that you could not reply to me. I was just wondering why you insisted on doing it constantly when you knew I had you blocked. All "little birdy" did was point out how hilarious it was. Then again, as I said, you rarely get anything right. Keep that streak going.
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Ragnarok.Ozment
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-04-02 18:10:02
And the mods still haven't banned Vic? The dude is violating the rules left and right. Anyone not on the left does that and it's met with harsh permanent penalties.
I'm not worried about getting banned for calling out a coward that takes shots at posters in this section while having them all blocked. Its called posting in bad faith, and Saevel is the only one guilty of it. The mods are aware of it, and since he hasn't stopped, neither will I.
In general, I don't think blocking is ever a wise choice. It limits the information being provided. It is the proverbial head-in-the-sand ostrich...if it doesn't see anything it doesn't like, then that must mean it doesn't exist. Of course, ostriches are stupid creatures, lacking the ability to face opposition.
Except for the fact that ostriches don’t actually do that. So I guess your analogy only works if you’re using the cartoon/urban legend version of the ostrich instead of the real ostrich which would be much more likely to kick the crap out of you if cornered.
You of all people should know how right I am about blocking. You learned that lesson the hard way. :)
I have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re rarely right, and you have never taught me a lesson. Care to elaborate?
Aw, don't you remember? You had me blocked at one point, and were under the erroneous impression that it prevented me from replying to you. I was surprised you didn't know all it did was prevent you from seeing my posts/replies. That's when you employed the services of Little Birdy to keep you up to date on my posts.
Uh, no, I never assumed it meant that you could not reply to me. I was just wondering why you insisted on doing it constantly when you knew I had you blocked. All "little birdy" did was point out how hilarious it was. Then again, as I said, you rarely get anything right. Keep that streak going.
It's actually a bit of a fun read, especially when Nausi outs himself as your Little Birdy. Poor guy, not the sharpest tool in the shed was he? He liked using that "Nothing Burger" cliche...to be honest, I don't think I've ever seen anyone else here use it.
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-02 18:11:58
It actually wasn't Nausi. He just didn't go out of his way to deny it for some reason. Swing and another miss.
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Ragnarok.Ozment
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-04-02 18:18:49
It actually wasn't Nausi. He just didn't go out of his way to deny it for some reason. Swing and another miss.
So what other service was he providing you with? Is it something you can share...publicly?
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-02 18:24:16
It wasn't him. I think that was in reference to the fact that he was replying to you, and therefore I could see your posts through him. You're desperately trying to make something out of this and it's not working.
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Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-02 18:24:38
I bet Rav owns a MAGA hat and flywheel
Yeah I doubt it. I bet Vic has a mural dedicated to Hilary Clinton
Yeah I doubt it.
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-04-02 18:36:15
Seems relevant.
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Ragnarok.Ozment
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-04-02 18:38:45
It wasn't him. I think that was in reference to the fact that he was replying to you, and therefore I could see your posts through him. You're desperately trying to make something out of this and it's not working.
I'm just reminiscing on some fond memories. You seem very defensive and agitated, and there is no need to be.
By Voren 2020-04-03 02:14:01
Um no it doesn't. The radical right was kicked the curb years ago during the Obama time frame and this was put to rest in 2016 when non-Republican Trump beat the other candidates.
Trump ran on conservative ideology and was further supported by evangelicals and the KKK. You have the "never Trumps" that would be more towards the moderate conservatives than the "Trump's #1" crowd. Face it, Trump's main supporters are the radical "alt right" as well as the "never Hillary" crowds followed by the ones that vote straight ticket, people that picked the lesser of two weasels, and last, but not least, the ones that didn't vote third party because they don't like to vote for people who have no shot of winning. The radicals weren't booted, they just weren't given air time on Fox and CNN.
Quote: Its interesting that you find being "white supremacist" a bad thing while ignoring the "black supremacists" that are opening encouraged by those elected on the left.
Nice strawman.
Quote: On the right, racist *** are told to GTFO, on the left they are openly embraced and celebrated.
No, they're told to STFU, but keep voting.
Quote: And do we really need to get into the left hiding the pedo rape island, though that's more of an elite thing (who are overwhelmingly Democrat now).
WTF? Seriously, did you just yank this steaming turd fresh from Trump's *** or is there a reason you bring this up? Trump's also partaken in Epstein's partying. To what extent, I have no idea. I'm not even going to fling mud on that, but there's enough shame and blame to go around. Anyone connected to Epstein's debauchery should be charged and brought before a judge, and I mean ANYONE, even Trump and Clinton if they had anything to do with it.
Quote: You sound like a moderate leftist who doesn't like the Democrat party, really doesn't like Trump but can't quite bring themselves to not view the Republicans as "evil". So instead you brand both as "equally evil" to not feel bad.
I prefer to view myself as a Constitutionalist, but I'll take moderate leftist so long as that includes being a Capitalist, because honestly, nothing really good comes from pure Socialism.
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By Voren 2020-04-03 03:50:12
If your police forces allow child molestation out of fear of being called racists, you have a much different issue my friend. That's plain piss-***-ignorance. The police could absolutely spin that back around, but what you're saying is that they lack the critical thinking to do so.
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By Voren 2020-04-03 06:26:23
Video games, movies, and music have taken a hit from one extreme group or the other since their inception. Christian conservatives rallied against AC/DC at one point way back when. Marilyn Manson is a great example as well. Rockstar games has put out content that was questionable to some, but it was still put out.
Comedians....come on man have you not seen Bob Sagget? Burt Kreisher? Tom Segura? Yeah they're not being redacted.
You want to talk about removing history? Ok, go look up school resource books for American schools that reference slavery in the US. Native-Americans and the atrocities that happened to them. Those areas have been redacted for a long time by the Christian conservatives and federal government in order to hide what was done.
Hell, I bet if I put up an American history book referencing the war between the colonies and Britain circa 1776 against one from your country that we'd see some vastly different accounts.
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Asura.Saevel
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-04-03 07:15:39
Um no it doesn't. The radical right was kicked the curb years ago during the Obama time frame and this was put to rest in 2016 when non-Republican Trump beat the other candidates.
Trump ran on conservative ideology and was further supported by evangelicals and the KKK. You have the "never Trumps" that would be more towards the moderate conservatives than the "Trump's #1" crowd. Face it, Trump's main supporters are the radical "alt right" as well as the "never Hillary" crowds followed by the ones that vote straight ticket, people that picked the lesser of two weasels, and last, but not least, the ones that didn't vote third party because they don't like to vote for people who have no shot of winning. The radicals weren't booted, they just weren't given air time on Fox and CNN.
Quote: Its interesting that you find being "white supremacist" a bad thing while ignoring the "black supremacists" that are opening encouraged by those elected on the left.
Nice strawman.
Quote: On the right, racist *** are told to GTFO, on the left they are openly embraced and celebrated.
No, they're told to STFU, but keep voting.
Quote: And do we really need to get into the left hiding the pedo rape island, though that's more of an elite thing (who are overwhelmingly Democrat now).
WTF? Seriously, did you just yank this steaming turd fresh from Trump's *** or is there a reason you bring this up? Trump's also partaken in Epstein's partying. To what extent, I have no idea. I'm not even going to fling mud on that, but there's enough shame and blame to go around. Anyone connected to Epstein's debauchery should be charged and brought before a judge, and I mean ANYONE, even Trump and Clinton if they had anything to do with it.
Quote: You sound like a moderate leftist who doesn't like the Democrat party, really doesn't like Trump but can't quite bring themselves to not view the Republicans as "evil". So instead you brand both as "equally evil" to not feel bad.
I prefer to view myself as a Constitutionalist, but I'll take moderate leftist so long as that includes being a Capitalist, because honestly, nothing really good comes from pure Socialism.
Perfect example right here, can have actual racists visit the White House but as long they aren't white then it's allowed.
Republicans and Conservatives hated Trump in 2015/2016, so much so that he had to resort to threatening them to prevent them from doing what they in 2012. Heck what the Democrats just did in 2020.
Trump is not a Conservative, never was a Conservative and has spent the majority of his life supporting both the Democrats and the Republicans as the need arose. But that doesn't matter to you does it, you see the "R", everything turns red and the reality distortion field engages. Even rewriting history to let yourself be the hero.
*golf clap*
Here's a participation trophy
By Voren 2020-04-03 07:33:48
bunch of stuff that was way off the mark
I'm registered Republican. Only time I ever voted Democrat was against Mary Fallin in 2014 and if you do a cursory search of her you'd see why. God she was horrible.
Voting history: Bush, Bush, McCain, Romney, Johnson.
Congratulations on being completely wrong. Keep up the great work buddy, you're doing terrific.
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