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By Bismarck.Sterk 2026-06-25 17:23:06  
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Are there any runes that prevent 085 from dropping in Voucher 08? It's the last rune I need and have gotten 7 copies of 117 while still lacking 085. Just wondering if it's bad luck or if I need to make changes to my maze layout.
Finally got an 085 after switching my prize NPC from Clairasse to Leppi-Rippi. Not sure if it matters, but I guess I'll keep picking him for hopefully 2 more copies for my other characters to finish up runes.
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By Odin.Bangla 2026-06-26 01:17:50  
Coincidentally, Leppi-Rippi is who I chose when I got both runes in one run.
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By AeryBahamut 2026-06-26 21:23:56  
No change from playtime at 75 days. Gave it a good long while too. Will look for the next possible break point. 90 days/100 days next reasonable thresholds. If the original to rank 8 capped at 150/175/200 then it would make sense. Personally I think 75 or 100 days for rank 6 because of the mute function and 150/200 for rank 8 cap was original. Pushing maybe to 200 days for Rank 10 - which is nigh unreachable at the moment.

I've gone back to grinding levels and titles. Still mildly concerned that roughly 75% done with content is rank 5, but we have seen some category completions being rather insane. Chocobo is just shy of adulthood so next week will be chocobucks and racing... late July?

Been trying to do the last half of the Job Master titles since I assume those have relatively large weights. Still have no idea why I am 2 ranks behind Dannyl unless crafting is absolutely insanely weighted - I am only 400/790, but head by literally 100-300+ in all other major metrics (missions/quests/RoE/Titles). Been working on fishing, but that has been a real slog.

Comparisons drive me nuts when I cannot figure out what in the world is holding me back...
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-06-26 21:27:17  
Nothing is holding you back

It takes an unbelievable amount of ***6>7 7>8 8>9

Unbelievable; literally everyone gets frustrated by it

Honestly, it's too easy 1-4 so it feels unreasonable 6-9. It's just like master levels. easy as ***level 20 in a day. then 45 is only the half way point.
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By HiPotion 2026-06-26 22:55:08  
AeryBahamut said: »
No change from playtime at 75 days. Gave it a good long while too. Will look for the next possible break point. 90 days/100 days next reasonable thresholds. If the original to rank 8 capped at 150/175/200 then it would make sense. Personally I think 75 or 100 days for rank 6 because of the mute function and 150/200 for rank 8 cap was original. Pushing maybe to 200 days for Rank 10 - which is nigh unreachable at the moment.

I've gone back to grinding levels and titles. Still mildly concerned that roughly 75% done with content is rank 5, but we have seen some category completions being rather insane. Chocobo is just shy of adulthood so next week will be chocobucks and racing... late July?

Been trying to do the last half of the Job Master titles since I assume those have relatively large weights. Still have no idea why I am 2 ranks behind Dannyl unless crafting is absolutely insanely weighted - I am only 400/790, but head by literally 100-300+ in all other major metrics (missions/quests/RoE/Titles). Been working on fishing, but that has been a real slog.

Comparisons drive me nuts when I cannot figure out what in the world is holding me back...

try fullfilling one of these synthetic atma or vorseals requirements, they seem like a good 'milestone' measure.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-06-27 00:04:55  
Btw aery: I finally went around and talked to all the title NPCs (it sucked) and I have fewer titles than you on my rank 7 character.

It's very clearly weighted differently. You have more titles, roe, quests, key items, and all that other nonsense, but I'm (at least) two ranks ahead.

I think focusing on chocobo raising and chocobucks is insane.

Level your crafts. Kill sortie bosses (how many have you done?), kill ody gaol bosses (how many?), do walk of echoes, htbf. Idk, I don't have a full list of things you haven't done, but I really feel that ***like spell lists, home points, maze runes, roe, and survival guides are a hell of a lot less valuable than stuff like mog garden, coalitions, campaign ops, sortie, ody, etc.

Sure, if you want to get rank 9 you have to do it all, in theory, but i would focus on the bigger, more impactful things FIRST, and do the ancillary crap once all the heavy hitters are done.
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By AeryBahamut 2026-06-27 04:24:23  
I have most of the synthetic atma. I have only 2 of the Sortie Bosses done, hoping to get LS to run me some of those. HTBFs I only have a handful done, and I am missing 3 ody bosses.

It seems like I run around like a chicken with its head cut off, but there is some method to the madness. I been eager to do chocobo racing stuff, as soon as I got over the fear or messing up the chocobo.

Battle content is probably a serious weight on the scale and I've been reading up on how to do the enspell and NIN kills for the VD fights. Just need to get them done one by one.

I'll just say that 250+ titles, 400 quests and 300 RoE to be at the same rank is frustrating. It is what it is, until I start having something close to the Rank 8 people in completion it is what it is. I did a bunch of V5s for Odyssey though so I am starting the climb. Getting Ody/Sortie solo is something that I need to work on because I do not have a static yet.

Let's try something a bit different - at what number of titles/clear points would it become a red flag? 800 titles? 850 titles? Or just break into 8000 or 9000 on the checklist? It just baffles me how I have more titles/roe/quests than a Rank 8. I won't be too opposed to finishing crafts/high tier fights, but the gap is at least 3 ranks for some...
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-06-27 04:33:15  
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I mean, I'm rank 9 with only v0 clears on t3 and bumba gaol nms, and like no moogle mastery

He only has like 700 titles, so I'm gonna place my 1 gil bet and say he doesn't have all 3 beastman king titles or one of the wyrms or something that stand out as potentially "more important". We've seen quite a few people rank up from those when they think they should have been higher to begin with

I think you guys have forgotten something important....




I guess ask this guy, because apparently it's all about the titles, despite you having more titles than me and being 2 ranks lower. Maybe he has some other secret wisdom to share.

I'm not 100% positive this is accurate since I had to track it all manually, but I went back after I finished and looked for anything obvious and didn't find any. This should be accurate for which titles I do/don't have. You could look for differences with your own list and potentially hunt down those titles. :shrug:
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By Dodik 2026-06-27 04:38:56  
Titles, ROEs, quests. Those seem to be the most important factors.

I also don't think gaining more AF matters, nor upgrading them. AF quest lines that give titles matter, not having AF on slips (IMO).
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-06-27 06:08:09  
The reason titles matter is everything is connected to a title.

If you master a job, you get the title, and the new spells, and magic skills and the combat skills that go with it.

If you beat a mission line, it comes with titles.

Collecting AF, a title. Finishing a craft a title. Finishing RoEs another title. It is all titles.

There are things besides titles that count, but titles cover a significant portion of it. Monstrosity for example, no titles.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-06-27 06:14:42  
Dodik said: »
Titles, ROEs, quests. Those seem to be the most important factors.

Well, I've already shown that Aery has more Titles & more ROEs than me, do I need to also go prove that he has more quests than me?

I haven't checked my quest count but as a general rule: I've never done a quest unless there was a valuable reward, or some motivation to do it (like vanabout or something).
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By Dodik 2026-06-27 06:29:58  
Some titles are worth more than others, seems obvious.
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2026-06-27 06:32:26  
All three of my rank ups were from content that gave associated titles. Rank 7 was fiat lux completion, rank 8 was buying smithing mitts, rank 9 was completing voracious resurgence.

I'm not sayin yours were, but there are TON to get so if you have nm titles, or titles from content clear, or titles that are from quests, or titles that are easy to get, etc etc etc. Then there's no reason not to get them first before doing a bunch of harder to do stuff.

Like if you'd rather grind out v25 kills on odyssey mobs that's your prerogative, but that seems a LOT harder and more intensive then grinding out 100 more titles and content completion you can do on your own

Getting all beast men king titles, all wyrm titles, and things that seem important but may not be are a freakin breeze and we have 100 pages of proof of people ranking up from them more than once

We already know by now that some titles are worth more than other so total number varies a lot and has always varied a lot, by a hundred or more even back before they updated past rank 8 being the max

This isn't rocket surgery, just do the game. All the game. It's there and waiting. No one should be trying to rank up all monstrosity species to 99 before they do things like get all homepoints, all missions, all nm titles, all quest titles (within reason, don't change your race to trion titles), all spells, etc and other easy low hanging stuff
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2026-06-27 06:43:18  
Also just noticed his crafting skills were way low,so yeah

cap your crafts. Getting one to 110 and the rest to 70, even ignoring synergy for now, is another easy to do in today's game kind of thing that shouldn't be ignored if you're in the "hey everyone, let's grind to make this number higher for no reason" topic

A number not blue? Make it blue!
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-06-27 06:47:19  
Lakshmi.Avereith said: »
other easy low hanging stuff

Lakshmi.Avereith said: »
rank 9 was completing voracious resurgence.

Lol.

Lakshmi.Avereith said: »
cap your crafts. Getting one to 110 and the rest to 70

Doesn't give a title.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-06-27 06:50:24  
Averith was already master rank 8 when TVR was just starting.

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Some titles are worth more than others, seems obvious.

The thing about being obvious. The purposely ignorant are, ignorant.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-06-27 06:57:11  
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Lakshmi.Avereith said: »
cap your crafts. Getting one to 110 and the rest to 70

Doesn't Does give a title.

Crafting point purchased items require rank. No Artisan, no Apron. No Apron, no title.
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2026-06-27 06:59:58  
*insert expletive here*

We know it's not just titles since the se official response on the matter in 2021



So yeah, do that stuff. All of it. Then all the other stuff not mentioned there, do that too.

You're either being silly for the fun of it, or don't realize we only have learned like 2 hard facts over 5 years which is that, 1. Rank ups happen after zoning, and 2. Medal of altana is worth a lot

No use trying to make sense of anything else, because frankly we don't know and just do it all because it's there. Like climbing a mountain.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-06-27 07:00:06  
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Lakshmi.Avereith said: »
cap your crafts. Getting one to 110 and the rest to 70

Doesn't Does give a title.

Crafting point purchased items require rank. No Artisan, no Apron. No Apron, no title.

He didn't say buy an apron, he said level up to blue numbers.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-06-27 07:01:06  
And if you used your *** brain occasionally instead of being a dumbass on purpose you would've known why.
 
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-06-27 07:10:51  
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And if you used your *** brain occasionally instead of being a dumbass on purpose you would've known why.

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Getting one to 110 and the rest to 70,

You're right, you're a genius. When he said "level subcrafts to 70" he meant "level all of them to 110 and buy all the KIs Eiryl suggested. You know, the polar *** opposite of what he said.

I didn't read through the lines enough.
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2026-06-27 08:35:52  
Took the liberty of copying the aery checklist output to see what I would do first. Let's see! This isn't up to date, but it's the one from 5 or whatever pages ago

There! That's enough stuff to do for a long time. If you do all that and still are rank 5, then color me surprised

Some of those aren't, "do because important," but, "do because easy and why not." But yeah, tons to do. Vorseals is a great target, because they cover a lot of different content. Obviously the billion domain dragon kill Vorseals aren't the first priority, but get all the ones from doing various content
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-06-27 08:40:39  
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
And if you used your *** brain occasionally instead of being a dumbass on purpose you would've known why.

Lakshmi.Avereith said: »
Getting one to 110 and the rest to 70,

You're right, you're a genius. When he said "level subcrafts to 70" he meant "level all of them to 110 and buy all the KIs Eiryl suggested. You know, the polar *** opposite of what he said.

I didn't read through the lines enough.

Apron is 70. No one said Ki. Lurn 2 reed moar guder.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-06-27 08:47:30  
OK, now we're having fun! Of the things listed:
Zones visited: I have no *** idea.
Magic: Each of my (rank 7) characters are missing hundreds of spells
Warps: No idea, but definitely not all done
Assaults: Mine are done, ofc.
Maps: No idea, but probably not done?
Abyssea: Definitely not even close to finished
Voidwatch: Way less Aery has
SMN pacts: Meki is missing a few, Male has all
Blue magic: Meki has 0 blue magic spells (maybe it's not unlocked?)
Geomancy: Male has 0 geomancy spells
Trusts: I think I'm missing 2 on each character
Craft skills: Male is capped out, Meki is missing ~150 levels?
Proto-waypoints: I have like 5 per character
Fishes caught: Male is capped, Meki has ~102?
Monstrosity: Neither character has ever initiated monstrosity
MMM: No idea how many I've cleared, probably 10ish?
Meeble Burrows: Never done it, except to learn the spell for BLU (on Male)
Vorseals: No idea, but maybe half? Never tried for one, but randomly "achieved" many of them.
Titles: Actually the exact same as Aery (from 5 days ago) on Male, haven't checked on Meki, I think he's gotten more since then?

So...if these are the high priority items, I'm missing the vast majority of them.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-06-27 08:50:28  
Asura.Eiryl said: »

Crafting point purchased items require rank. No Artisan, no Apron. No Apron, no title.

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Apron is 70. No one said Ki. Lurn 2 reed moar guder.

OK, What level are these? I'm really bad at reading, just wanna make sure your point is clear enough.
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By Dodik 2026-06-27 09:11:40  
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OK, now we're having fun

Are we.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-06-27 09:13:21  
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »

Crafting point purchased items require rank. No Artisan, no Apron. No Apron, no title.

Asura.Eiryl said: »
Apron is 70. No one said Ki. Lurn 2 reed moar guder.

OK, What level are these? I'm really bad at reading, just wanna make sure your point is clear enough.

It's just the full list of eventual must haves. Unwad your panties. I specifically said apron(s). Ave specifically said 70.
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Crafting point purchased items require rank. No Artisan, no Apron. No Apron, no title.
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cap your crafts. Getting one to 110 and the rest to 70
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By AeryBahamut 2026-06-27 09:28:37  
I haven't posted an updated thing in awhile I guess, but yes I have been trying to do a chunk of the 'do this' part. I have a handful of BLU+GEO spells/trusts to get, but I am time gated on Monberaux and I am waiting for Mumor/Mumor II before I use my pell. Meebles done. Started the mazes... what fun this'll be.

I've spent the last week hunting down the rest of the quest-titles, WSes, fishing and other stuff. The guild trade in for points is horrendous sometimes because I need so many points. Guess it might be best to cycle through and get the first two items on each before worrying about the others.

As maletaru has pointed out - and from the list I checked - it is the battle content which would account for the two rank gap? I am missing Tiamat+Hydra, but most timed pop NM (including the beastmen kings) are done. Battle content that is missing for titles mostly hangs around the high-tier fights, master trials, and Abyssea.

Personally, I'd be floored if the battle content was two whole ranks worth, but I'll play ball. Let's throw out the playtime cap for now until I hit a majority of the low-hanging battle content. A significant part of which was getting NIN to ML and ready for some fights.


Late P.S. - If titles are mostly equivalent then SE lies about battle content? Maybe? Do I have to go clearing all the low tier BCNM/ENM orb fights too? Or do those not get tracked? Anyways ML PUP now so I can do things like that.
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By LightningHelix 2026-06-27 13:28:16  
AeryBahamut said: »
The guild trade in for points is horrendous sometimes because I need so many points. Guess it might be best to cycle through and get the first two items on each before worrying about the others.
Don't forget to only switch after you get points for a day, or it costs you an IRL day.

As for BCNMs, we have no evidence they're tracked anyway because they don't give titles (thank god) (aside from the ENMs dropping Cloud Evoker to get a title from Ouryu and another from Bahamut...)
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