Mastery Rank Data
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Mastery Rank Data
Also, Fiat Lux is a great callout, I (and a couple others iirc) ranked up from completing that for the first time. Another one of those "kind of feels like a storyline thing that should give a lot of points" things.
I got to rank 7 last night after getting all three lycopodium warps, I only had 1/3 before. It's either that or I got it after doing some sidequests or some low level NM that I didn't bother to check after. I'm pretty sure I was still rank 6 before going out to get those warps though. Anyway it wasn't after any hard battle content or completed mission lines or anything that seemed like it would be a significant milestone.
I'm at 692 titles and 515 ROEs playtime: 431 days, don't know how to check actual number of days played missions: all except windurst 2-2 quests: 624 quests combat/magic: missing a lot of shield, guard and summoning, I think. Highest ML is 42 synthesis/fishing: 110/70 for all crafts, 80 synergy, 27 fishing trusts: 108 battle content: have dyna d, odyssey, sortie, but missing a bunch of older stuff like MMM, meebles, etc. No master trials non battle content: no chocobo racing, mog garden: everything rank 7, I'll try to get some xichecklist output later. Has anyone confirmed - Resetting Najam Quest for a new mythic could drop rank or not?
Already did Fiat Lux and about 150 other campaign ops, so I got those counted. Got even more titles and stand at 755 now, still Rank 5. Hit a bunch of battlefields and did some RoE NMs and unity ones I was missing. Got a few more rarer campaign ops to do this week so that will help. I don't have it in me to grind some of the more annoying ones to flag them either, but I'll get to them eventually.
Pretty sure I can hit 800 titles fairly soon, at the rate I am knocking out these battlefields. I think I will be very concerned if I hit 900 RoE, 800 titles, and 800 quests and I am still at rank 5.... AeryBahamut said: » Already did Fiat Lux and about 150 other campaign ops, so I got those counted. Got even more titles and stand at 755 now, still Rank 5. Hit a bunch of battlefields and did some RoE NMs and unity ones I was missing. Got a few more rarer campaign ops to do this week so that will help. I don't have it in me to grind some of the more annoying ones to flag them either, but I'll get to them eventually. Pretty sure I can hit 800 titles fairly soon, at the rate I am knocking out these battlefields. I think I will be very concerned if I hit 900 RoE, 800 titles, and 800 quests and I am still at rank 5.... Have you do all your missions, specifically nations? Is there a wiki page compiling what we think might be worth more than other activities?
Also would anyone be able to tell me how the htbf grading system works? Conquered is normal? Honors is D or above? Aylee515 said: » AeryBahamut said: » Already did Fiat Lux and about 150 other campaign ops, so I got those counted. Got even more titles and stand at 755 now, still Rank 5. Hit a bunch of battlefields and did some RoE NMs and unity ones I was missing. Got a few more rarer campaign ops to do this week so that will help. I don't have it in me to grind some of the more annoying ones to flag them either, but I'll get to them eventually. Pretty sure I can hit 800 titles fairly soon, at the rate I am knocking out these battlefields. I think I will be very concerned if I hit 900 RoE, 800 titles, and 800 quests and I am still at rank 5.... Have you do all your missions, specifically nations? Yep. Only missing Campaign Ops on the mission side of things. A lot of those are the annoying ones like Vanguard, Cut&Cauterize, Smokescreen and the campaign battles for defense. Can knock out a bunch of them I think, but some are basically at the whims of the campaign situation. I've got two alts at rank 6. Also pretty different from Aery. One of them has all crafts capped except Fishing, Synergy, and Cooking, with an Alch Stall, and stage 4 shield. He's been rank 6 since the update where everyone's ranks seemed to go up. The other just has Leather 110 and a couple others ~30-40. No stall, but has the apron. She ranked up somewhat recently between when I finished all the adoulin quests on all 3, and when I was chasing random old-content NM titles. They're pretty similar in terms of content done. Only Rank 10 in 2 nations, but done with all adoulin quests and legend everywhere, etc. I'll do the title runaround on them for xichecklist and report back in a bit for comparison, but just a teaser: the "younger" rank 6 doesn't even have 300 ROEs complete. IMO the 1 assault and the craft levels are the low hanging fruit on Aery's list, but maybe that's just me.
Lakshmi.Avereith said: » *insert expletive here* We know it's not just titles since the se official response on the matter in 2021  So yeah, do that stuff. All of it. Then all the other stuff not mentioned there, do that too. You're either being silly for the fun of it, or don't realize we only have learned like 2 hard facts over 5 years which is that, 1. Rank ups happen after zoning, and 2. Medal of altana is worth a lot No use trying to make sense of anything else, because frankly we don't know and just do it all because it's there. Like climbing a mountain. Hell, BOTH of the rank ups that I saw (I was 7 when they added) were NOT from titled content... (Monstrosity levels > 8, Wing skill > 9)
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My rank 8 was from Taisaijin title
Who knows how heavily these things are weighed... I would say the best approach for "Fast" rank ups (in my opinion) is to do all the milestone activities such as missions/expansions, then do things that reward Vorseals, as most of them are titles of final bosses of pieces of content
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Has there been any notes/investigations into anything relating to the Hunt system? Just from the menu, there's no record keeping that we can see but upon completion the text is 'Your hunt has been recorded'.
Fenrir.Jinxs said: » Is there a wiki page compiling what we think might be worth more than other activities? Also would anyone be able to tell me how the htbf grading system works? Conquered is normal? Honors is D or above? (someone please correct me if I've been wrong all these years!) LightningHelix said: » Fenrir.Jinxs said: » Is there a wiki page compiling what we think might be worth more than other activities? Also would anyone be able to tell me how the htbf grading system works? Conquered is normal? Honors is D or above? (someone please correct me if I've been wrong all these years!)
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And that does indeed correct me, thank you!
My mule is now done Sandy, Bastok, Windurst, CoP, ToAU, SoA, and RoV.
WotG: mission 14/54, ~1/4 done TVR: Part 10 of 11, ~4/5 done, I'm gated by the need to 3-box some Sortie with this mule. I ran around to all of the Title NPCs but Kazham and am about at 2.2k/12k points according to xichecklist. Still rank 2! Newer alt, ~4 years old account. Has been logged in most of the time since activation. 1128 days of playtime. Worth noting her RoE number in XIChecklist doesn't agree with the ROE menu in game, which says 296. Guessing XIChecklist sees the completion packet for Monthly ROEs and increases its tracked number by 1 when the game doesn't track those as part of its number it shows us in the ROE menu. She has a couple mythics, a relic, an empy, several aeonics, Idris, 12 mastered jobs, some ML50, 110 craft but just apron, etc. She does have a prime done at stage 5, and some decent odyssey progress. Both these characters have Judge, Jury, and Executioner and have generally had a "help me do end game on my main" type of focus to them. She got to 6 after doing Adoulin quests and getting a little more mog garden progress / hunting NMs for titles.
Other character. Older account by far, but only ~100 days more playtime. He's been 6 for longer, since before I did the adoulin quests for Ygnas on main. He, like the one above, still needs a fair amount of mog garden progress before being able to get Ygnas as well in addition to some first time coalition completes. He's got stage 4 shield with the reassembly KI, but I stopped short of actually completing it to prioritize chasing end game stuff and collecting weapons on my main a few years ago. His crafts are in a better place re: blue numbers, too. Playtime 1224 days. v20 Bumba is more or less his only meaningful Odyssey progress, though he's got a few clears of various other bosses on lower vengeance, and has been by my main's side for a lot of stuff. There are a few non-essential quests done on him, whereas the above character is pretty much essential only + Adoulin quests. Neither of these chars are far enough fishing wise to have their caught fish tracked by the NPC, but he's got a few more caught than she does. She's caught maybe 3 fish ever? He's caught a few more, but almost certainly less than 10. Let me know if you have questions Differences here are striking to me. Higher rank yet I have 2500 difference on XI log and just on a more base 'count' level I have +500 RoE, +150-230~ titles, +150 missions, +400 quests. Gaol, crafting levels and ML levels higher. That is some huge difference.
Mastery Rank 6 hit. After Hawkeyes I + II in coalition.... weird, because I downgraded 2 medals and did the mission!!!! Returned Dawnlight and Moonlight medal (medal 3 and 2). So for whatever reason, those two medals are LESS than a generic campaign op!?
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I believe only Altana’s Medal had any value.
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Worth a lot but no, campaign ops do count. That's what pushed me to 8 a few years back.
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From the reports we gathered in this thread it seems quite obvious and undeniable to me that there are things that are worth "more" than others. With some potentially being worth 0 without us knowing.
At the same time there's so many things, so many checks, I seriously doubt they went and did such a deep fine-tuning of individually giving points to all this plethora of countless things you can do in FFXI. There has to be a generic criteria, a short series of rules that they set up somewhere in their code. I'm not buying that they did all the manual, long, tedious job it would take for such level of individual fine-tuning. I imagine the system is something like "each (most) activity gives X points. When you get past a certain amount of points, you get a mastery rank". In addition to that some levelup likely have some gatings/requirements. So you won't get the level up even if you have enough "points" if you miss one of the potential requirements that are required for that certain level. Quite likely each "requirement" is not single but a grouped one. Like: "Requirement 1 for Masteryrank2: you need to have done this, or this, or this, or this". Any would work but you need at least one, otherwise you won't get Mastery Rank 2 even if you have enough "points". And in this system, as I was saying at the beginning, it's obvious some activities give more "points" than others, but I'm confident there's a general rule for that category of content. If they did fine tuning for something, they did it just for a bunch of stuff that is an "exception" to the category that thing falls under. I really don't see them doing all of this "activity X is worth Y points" manually for every single thing, given the huge amount of possible targets. I think we can probably all agree Mastery Rank is something linear and simple like this?
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That's about the jist of it.
Do everything. Everything counts. Prioritize. Something might be a 1 or it might be a 25, there's no real way to check. There's no random obscure thing walling you, if barriers exist it's obvious ***like MSQ.
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I personally would draw the conclusion that some content adds 1 point and other content is "all or nothing", such as:
1.) Each Campaign Op is probably worth 1 point. 2.) Medal of Altana add 10 points (per Fujito), so anything less adds 0 points (all or nothing). Highly unlikely
There's not a single thing that comes to mind without really thinking hard that would be all or nothing. MAYBE rema levels. If I'm really stretching as hard as possible. A level 90 mandau isn't worth more than a level 75 mandau. But a 119 is. But also maybe the trial of the magian is worth 1 point each. maybe. I think it's probably something like:
SUM(missions completed)*5 + sum(quests completed) + sum(titles obtained) + sum(levels including monstrosity) + sum(skills)/50 + sum(...) + if(medal of altana, 50, 0) + if(number of homepoints > 120, 50, 0) + if(crafting shield obtained, 50, 0) + if(... So a mix of things that are easy to measure times some low-value multiple plus a bunch of random binary checks they thought of with arbitrary, higher values. They could be doing something simple like re-using title values to scale that, but my guess is that's more in the "sum things that are easy, add random terms I just thought of, congrats on your mastery rank system" vein. Still makes it borderline impossible for us to figure out what matters, though.
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I’m in the camp that there’s something pretty binary about it. Agree somewhat with your proposed formula, Byrth. There’s something / some heavy weight on whatever they deemed shows “mastery” of some of these pieces of content, and I think we have found some of them.
Medal of Altana Crafting Shield done and dusted Abyssea questline’s abyssite of the cosmos Likely something like runic disk in nyzul, or the title from doing 100 in uncharted, or the captain wildcat badge The completion markers for the addons, and other expansions. There’s a lot of craft related stuff, and people with higher/more complete crafts tend to rank higher, but maybe it’s correlation instead of causation. We have the correlation/causation issue a lot actually. Do we have a way to tell how many magian trials we’ve done and which ones, or how many hunts we’ve done and which ones? What worries me the most is it just doesn’t seem like we are tracking enough stuff for there to be enough to complete for rank 10 to be obtainable. All the 9 we have seen are either almost totally done with xichecklist or have so little left that there’s no way it’s enough to get to 10 since they just dinged 9. Playtime probably functions with a cap limit of applicable points then. We know it counts, just not sure of the brackets for its cap (again assuming it does cap).
Anyways on to the journey for Rank 7! Still plenty of low hanging stuff to get. Though I am trying to do my best to get the mog garden titles, but that put down 1000 pets is something cruel. Or maybe playtime is something simple like 1 point per day played. This doesn’t have to be complicated.
Has anyone got a rank up from finishing a REMA(P)? I remember Byrth tried making all relics, but don't recall if we ever saw one.
I'm putting my money on SE updating the mastery rank again after the Shantotto Ascension HTBF drops, and we all ding r10 :D |
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