Mastery Rank Data

There are 100% minimums for content in order to rank up, e.g. campaign ops for the latter tiers of mastery rank.

Fixed that for you

You need things like campaign ops, because you need their "points"

Don't conflate "have to do them because you HAVE to do them" with "you have to do them, because they count"

There's rank 8s who never touched campaign ops, for example

Where is this rank 8 person who has done 0 campaign ops?

To further this I'd like to add I was MR6 and not getting anywhere, finished my 3rd nation to rank 10 and immediately went to MR7.

Back in pages pre 50 before anyone thought about them as an option, feel free to look

Lakshmi.Avereith said: »

Rank 8:
-Campaign Ops: 41

Lakshmi.Avereith said: »

Rank 7:
-Campaign Ops: 41

Lakshmi.Avereith said: »

Rank 7
-Campaign Ops: 12

All these people ranks 5 6 7 8 9 with totally random amounts of campaign ops. If some magically number minimum were required, why doesn't it appear so.

None of those are 0 ('never touched'). Rank 7 is a low rank now, and the first quote was a good example of a minimum being required. Mine was 10 for hitting rank 8, and that first poster you quoted dinged as soon as they did 20.

It'd be a (long, pointless) test, but after basically doing it myself, you can not get rank 8 or 9 now without doing campaign ops (or monstrosity, or ...) which means there is a minimum of x activity for ranking up.

So you think they just decided 10/246 and 20/246 are the barriers to rank 8 and 9

Instead of idk half. or 200/246. Nope. 10. Totes.

And they only start mattering at rank 8, rank 7 you could have 0, sure sure.

Said it 3 years ago, still works now. Again, feel free to try and do everything and skip campaign ops altogether and get rank 8 or even 9.

I guess I can't find a rank 8 with less than 10 even it's an extremely stupid statement to think 10 would be required for it.

Why they would wait until rank 8, and why it would only be 10. Definitely *** but it'd take a year to prove it wrong.

And not even a specific 10 just whatever 10 at random.

It's SE. Doing dumb ***is their MO.

Speaking of Campaign Ops does anyone know if Prying Eyes I requires your nation of allegiance to own every area in their region besides the beastmen stronghold? It's my final Op. I looked at that detailed list that was posted a few pages back detailing how to open all the Ops and such. For Prying Eyes I it mentions repeating Slaughterhouse (unsure which Tier. I'm repeating III since IV is northlands and doesn't seem relevant). I'm asking because Windurst does not have control of Oztroja but also lost control of Sauromugue. I switched to Bastok to compare the Ops because they control all of their zones besides Beadeaux and Prying Eyes I IS available there. Just curious if anyone has memory of completing this one while areas in the stronghold's region were not controlled.

What are a list of things that are speculated to count but no one has confirmed just yet?

I have seen some speculation here and there but don't know if anyone's made a list of untested vs tested ideas yet.

It might be time to reactivate some mog-storage characters from the 75-era days.

On the talk page of the bywiki mastery rank page, there's links to this topic with examples of rank ups, it's not a full "every rank up we've ever seen", but it's a good place to start if you want to compare what has and hasn't worked for people

https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Talk:Mentor

But who knows. It all counts so just do it all is basically the only lesson. Most people stick to easily trackable things though, so I don't think there's anyone out there counting things like 10k kills with each job or kill every nm in the game 5 times or stuff like that

AFAIK it's every rank up we have seen in this thread from the beginning of the thread to the reference at the top of the talk page. I just haven't updated it in about 20 pages.

Gotcha, thanks for the info and page.
I was keeping an eye on this thread every so often so I may have missed a bit.
Admittedly I only came back about 2 months ago to replay through the game with a co-worker of mine, and took an interest in reactivating some extra characters and seeing if I could help confirm/deny anything; looks like I'm about 5 years too late. lol

Makes sense, NPCs won't attack the stronghold unless they have the other 4 local zones. So it follows that they won't issue Operations for the zone either until then.

This makes no sense to me hitting 9 ....... Congrats for you before i post progress alot further along and still sitting at 8. (only area i think ahead against my log is capped Moogle Mastery, which may help someone)

Another campaign question. How do you unlock Steel Resolve IV and Hazardous Materials?

I got Windy controlling all of its zones sans Oztroja. Also managed Beaucedine while Sandy has the other three Northland zones. Crimson Domino IV and Vanguard-X IV were available immediately on Sunday. The morale and prosperity bars are nearly full/full respectively, and recon is at 10. Repeating Steel Resolve I over 30 times hasn't unlocked Steel Resolve II, much less IV.

Any ideas? I'm at my wit's end. Even farmed a stronghold pop set and that hasn't done anything.

not sure, this week on my server, windy took all its local zones + 3 northland zones, sandy took the last. we got steel resolve IV & hazardous materials right away, almost positive. i didn't get home until 90minutes after reset. so no idea.

as an aside, i hadn't checked before changing to bastok but a friend couldn't get Kinslayer: Baileys or Keep to show up in windy. I just checked and windy's recon is only lv.5; maybe that is why those ops haven't pop'd for windy while bastok's is lv.10 and pop'd immediately after i got dawnlight medal which is needed to see keep.

Prying Eyes I for windy on Bahamut is available for me. Take another peak :) Grats on final op, maybe.

Thanks! 246/246 Ops!

On an unrelated note though, does anyone know approximately how long you have to stun doomvoid? Is it for the entire animation any time before he "swallows you whole" or is it too late already if it gets past the "readying" animation and starts the animation of sucking you in?

Anybody know what are the requirements to make "By Light of Fire" appear?
I've done it for some nations but I don't know how to make it pop up.

Pit spider repeats? Something like that if I remember right

Observed something interesting while grinding out some campaign content this past weekend. I dinged rank 8 after completing my final stronghold invasion, then changed allegiance and immediately de-leveled back to 7 as I lost my Dawnlight and Altana medals.

Did two ops and an eval to get Dawnlight back, and assumed I would hit 8 again, but that did not happen. So, I figured - that implies Altana is weighted higher than the two ops, why not grind out unique uncompleted ops until I hit 8 again to get a ballpark for what the weighting difference actually is?

...several days and fifty-nine unique completed ops later, I am still rank 7, and I'm left questioning the "points are points" theory entirely. This also implies that capstone objectives might count for far more progress than currently thought.

Itemized list of the ops in question for the curious:
For my own sanity's sake, I did test re-ranking to 8 by doing the Altana eval, and dropping back to 7 via switching again afterwards. That works as expected.

yeah, in my last post i deranked by losing altana medal too.
after that i did at least 12 AF quest-lines (including coffers) and at least 10 windy titled quests and few sandy titled quests; couldnt rank up again.
>>yesterday i obtained 3 titles in Dyna D Jeuno (3 bosses) and i got ranked up again.

then tried to reset all AF quests, and reset all campaign medals to lowest level still couldnt de-rank

those 3 DynaD titles worth more than all medals and AF quests/titles combined.

As far as I know "By Light of Fire" is essentially "Pit Spider IV" for the purposes of unlocking it.

I did this on a character that ranked 7>8 after about the first 10~15 unique ops. Rankup occured when regaining altana, so I can't be very specific. Somewhere between 180~220 unique ops later, I did not derank when swapping nations.

two weeks ago happened to see it listed after a single Pit Spider III. Maybe it was there as soon as III was unlocked since i didn't menu past III, maybe some multi-box players also did it, but i never ran into them while spamming the hell out of II to unlock III.