Mastery Rank Data
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Mastery Rank Data
my xichecklist addon keeps spazzing out after i talked to an npc to update it. Like it consolidates everything and when you drag it around it is weird.
Mine's done that it's entire life. I just thought that's how it was. D:
Lakshmi.Avereith said: » So uhhh.. I got bored and it turns out the hunt registry does track kills/clears  So that sucks Theres 433 total NMs on the hunt registry, and you can do one hunt an in-game day I think I'm going to keep pretending this doesn't exist Although for anyone else: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p7QCNlW3AK9StP4vLDOiid00ADa1Shf6-GSTU4zXVcI/edit?usp=sharing Have fun with the checklist. Even looking at it makes me woozy Although if there is some sort of bonus for killing non-title NMs, at least this is a nice starter goal for that I don't think that's a kill tracker, I'm pretty sure that's just the number of kills required to meet the hunt registry objective. For instance, NMs that I've killed many times to farm scylds just say '1', and NMs that I don't think I've ever killed also say '1'.
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Kayte said: » That basically just leaves monstrosity, which at this point I'm basically running an experiment to prove is essentially impossible to hit 9 without. If I can finish the other 500 mazes, vorseals, shield, crystal paradise, and maybe some more master levels, and I'm still not 9, monstrosity will be effectively the only thing in the game I haven't done. Only thing I've done with it so far is one species to 90 and made sure to grab the event species when they were up. I believe that there is partial credit for some pieces of content, like Monstrosity, Crafting and MMM. Folks who do everything BUT Monstrosity these pieces of content, may find they rank up in their first (few) Monsters at 30/60/90/99 (even after obtaining 10k-12k XI Checklist points!) It's not so much that you can Rank Up *WITHOUT* some content. It's that you must have tried it AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT to rank up. In other words, my opinion is that a Mastery Rank-Up is a sum of points across all the pillars of content, with thresholds in each pillar of content. Example of a Theory that needs confirmation but I believe this to be true and further illustrates this point: (1) You probably can't reach Rank 9 without doing 10-49 MMM Maze completions. (2) You also probably can't get Rank 9 without getting your Mog Garden to Rank 7 in all activities (give or take Monster Rearring). Therefore, if one or two of these things are true, then no amount of Monstrosity Monsters, 64/64 to level 99 will help you get closer to Rank 9. Does this make sense? This thread:
Quote: You can't get XYZ rank without ABC content Quote: Person who shows they got that rank without that content Quote: You can't get XYZ rank without DEF content ...lather, rinse, repeat. More accurately
*Here's the list of all the ***I don't want to do* "Why can't I rank up?"
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I made it to rank 9 without Ballista or two of the Discerning titles, so it's all good.
My mule keeps racking up accomplishments and isn't ranking up. I'm beginning to suspect skill levels matter a lot and we just haven't gotten many reports about it because capping skills is easy and most of us already had all jobs at 99 with capped skills when this came out. If I notice when I hit rank 3, I'm going to reset his AF quest to try and drop back to 2, then I'll cap his MLs / skills to see if ML-granted skill levels matter.
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: » we just haven't gotten many reports about it because capping skills is easy and most of us already had all jobs at 99 with capped skills when this came out. I can attest that capping Katana, Great Katana, and Throwing on NIN is what got me from 6 to 7. Cerberus.Dekar said: » Lakshmi.Byrth said: » we just haven't gotten many reports about it because capping skills is easy and most of us already had all jobs at 99 with capped skills when this came out. I can attest that capping Katana, Great Katana, and Throwing on NIN is what got me from 6 to 7. Normal capping, or ML capping? I'd find it more surprising if ML skill didn't matter than did, but we have generally avoided talking about how capping all jobs (except COR) to ML50 may be part of the path to rank 10. Lakshmi.Byrth said: » we have generally avoided talking about how capping all jobs (except COR) to ML50 may be part of the path to rank 10. e: oh, the thing I actually meant to post, I'm MR7 on this fresh account and I was MR6 before I finished capping all my combat and magic skills. I don't mean just puppet skills, I genuinely had five magic skills at 0 when I hit MR6 and around... 7-10? combat skills at 150 or below. Had THF/COR/BLU mastered and every other weapon skill was only high enough for Abyssea proccing. Combat skills (and magic etc) are on paper, the largest possible pool of points.
We're talking like 10,000+ I've been saying that since like page 10, when I started caring and it was the very first thing I started testing. More theoretical value than; All crafts. all 22 jobs Ml50. all missions. total quests. total titles. all warps. all trusts. combined Lakshmi.Byrth said: » Normal capping, or ML capping? Normal capping at 99.
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Decided to provide some new data on Chocobo Digging.
All of the data provided have been done with Sky Blue Racing Silks. Except the early levels where I had none and a couple of mid levels where I used Blue Racing Silks. Also, Egg Helm is useful if you ask me. On an average of ~200 successful digs, it provides you like what, ~22 additional items, all of which can potentially produce a skillup. Small difference either way, but every bit counts, right? Also my personal take on Sky Blue vs Blue. They're both good and both close, I think Blue is slightly better in terms of how many skillups you can get on each day (400 digs instead of 200), but I go on Sky Blue for a simple reason: time constraint. With my (bad) chocobo to reach 200 succesful digs it takes me ~35mins. With Sky Blue that time remains the same, with Blue it would be double that amount, each day. Unless someone can provide me a bot or a more elaborate way of automatizing this process, no way I'm gonna waste all that time xD These are the stats of my Choco
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I finally hit MR7 after like a month of grinding ***, I had been on MR6 since I came back 3 months ago. I won't be doing anymore worthless content. The ranked up to MR7 happened after I did an evaluation from Sterling Star §§ -> Mythril Star §§§ not after a completed my 11th campaign op.
We should all go play other video games, this ***terrible. Code [12:53:55] ========== XICHECKLIST SUMMARY ========== [12:53:55] -Mastery Rank: 7 [12:53:55] -Checklist Progress 6405/12327 [12:53:55] ======= General ======= [12:53:55] -RoE 629/1104 [12:53:55] -Zones visited 279/292 [12:53:55] -Titles 701/1049 [12:53:55] -Missions 594/829 [12:53:55] -Quests 462/1111 [12:53:55] -Magic 730/881 [12:53:55] -Warps 337/365 [12:53:55] ======= Story ======= [12:53:55] -San d'Oria Missions 20/20 [12:53:55] -Bastok Missions 20/20 [12:53:55] -Windurst Missions 20/20 [12:53:55] -RotZ Missions 17/17 [12:53:55] -CoP Missions 63/63 [12:53:55] -Assaults 52/52 [12:53:55] -ToAU Missions 47/47 [12:53:55] -Campaign Ops 11/246 [12:53:55] -WoTG Missions 53/53 [12:53:55] -ACP Missions 11/11 [12:53:55] -MKD Missions 14/14 [12:53:55] -ASA Missions 14/14 [12:53:55] -SoA Missions 110/110 [12:53:55] -RoV Missions 97/97 [12:53:55] -TVR Missions 45/45 [12:53:55] -San d'Oria Quests 44/82 [12:53:55] -Bastok Quests 28/93 [12:53:55] -Windurst Quests 34/90 [12:53:55] -Jeuno Quests 61/146 [12:53:55] -Other Quests 32/90 [12:53:55] -Outlands Quests 20/57 [12:53:55] -Aht Urhgan Quests 37/72 [12:53:55] -Crystal War Quests 46/91 [12:53:55] -Abyssea Quests 26/191 [12:53:55] -Adoulin Quests 44/109 [12:53:55] -Coalition Assignments 90/90 [12:53:55] ======= Key Items ======= [12:53:55] -Permanent Key Items 216/356 [12:53:55] -Magical Maps 101/116 [12:53:55] -Mounts 30/40 [12:53:55] -Claim Slips 0/89 [12:53:55] -Abyssea 109/210 [12:53:55] -Voidwatch 46/80 [12:53:55] -Mog Garden 2/124 [12:53:55] -Active Effects 28/45 [12:53:55] -Atmacite Levels 116/600 [12:53:55] You must talk to any Atmacite Refiner (Menu: Enrich Atmas) [12:53:55] ======= Magic ======= [12:53:55] -White Magic 172/185 [12:53:55] -Black Magic 143/169 [12:53:55] -Summoner Pacts 22/22 [12:53:55] -Ninjutsu 33/37 [12:53:55] -Bard Songs 0/103 [12:53:55] -Blue Magic 196/196 [12:53:55] -Geomancy 60/60 [12:53:55] -Trusts 104/109 [12:53:55] -Corsair Rolls 31/31 [12:53:55] -Puppetmaster Attachments 19/127 [12:53:55] ======= Leveling ======= [12:53:55] -Craft Skills 5/790 [12:53:55] -Wing Skill 0/100 [12:53:55] You must talk to any Chocobo stats NPC @ Nations Chocobo Stables [12:53:55] -Merit Points 739/919 [12:53:55] -Job Points Maxed 14/22 [12:53:55] -Master Levels 403/1100 (Highest: 39) [12:53:55] -Alter Ego Points 192/550 [12:53:55] ======= Warps ======= [12:53:55] -Home Points 121/121 [12:53:55] -Survival Guides 97/97 [12:53:55] -Waypoints 51/51 [12:53:55] -Telepoints 9/9 [12:53:55] -Cavernous Maws 9/9 [12:53:55] -Lycopodium 0/3 [12:53:55] -Eschan Portals 32/32 [12:53:55] -Outposts 0/17 [12:53:55] You must talk to any Outpost Teleporter NPC @ three nations. [12:53:55] -Proto-Waypoints 18/26 [12:53:55] You must talk to any Proto-Waypoint. [12:53:55] ======= Other Content ======= [12:53:55] -Fishes Caught 0/164 [12:53:55] You must talk to Katsunaga @ Mhuaura (H-9) (Menu: Types of fishes caught) [12:53:55] -Ergon Locus 12/30 [12:53:55] You must talk to Rienne @ Western Adoulin (J-9) [12:53:55] ======= Monstrosity ======= [12:53:55] -Monster Levels Maxed 0/64 [12:53:55] -Race/Job Instincts 0/32 [12:53:55] -Monster Variants 0/89 [12:53:55] -Monster Instincts 0/192 [12:53:55] ======= Battle Content ======= [12:53:55] -MMM Vouchers Unlocked 0/9 [12:53:55] -MMM Runes Unlocked 0/100 [12:53:55] -MMM Maze count 2/1000 [12:53:55] You must talk to any Chatnachoq @ Lower Jeuno (H-9) [12:53:55] -Meeble Burrows Goal #3 24/32 [12:53:55] You must talk to Burrow Investigator @ Upper Jeuno (I-8) [12:53:55] Menu: Review expedition specifics -> Sauromugue Champaign [12:53:55] You must talk to Burrow Investigator @ Upper Jeuno (I-8) [12:53:55] Menu: Review expedition specifics -> Batallia Downs [12:53:55] -Sheol A (5/20) [12:53:55] You must talk to ??? @ Rabao (I-8) (Status Report: Moogle Mastery) [12:53:55] -Sheol B (3/31) [12:53:55] You must talk to ??? @ Rabao (I-8) (Status Report: Moogle Mastery) [12:53:55] -Sheol C (11/11) [12:53:55] You must talk to ??? @ Rabao (I-8) (Status Report: Moogle Mastery) [12:53:55] -Sheol Gaol Vengeance (405/425) [12:53:55] You must talk to ??? @ Rabao (I-8) (Status Report: Sheol Gaol) [12:53:55] -Eschan Vorseals (157/185) [12:53:55] You must talk to Shiftrix @ Reisenjima (F-12) [12:53:55] -Emporox Goodness 5/13 [12:53:55] You must talk to Emporox @ Reisenjima #8 [12:53:55] ======= Titles ======= [12:53:55] -Titles 701/1049 [12:53:55] --Battlefield titles 7/9 [12:53:55] --Monster Rearing titles 0/14 [12:53:55] --Missions titles 125/127 [12:53:55] --Ballista titles 0/2 [12:53:55] --Master Trials titles 4/7 [12:53:55] --Vagary titles 5/5 [12:53:55] --Escha titles 35/35 [12:53:55] --Delve titles 6/6 [12:53:55] --Salvage titles 4/8 [12:53:55] --Clothcraft titles 0/4 [12:53:55] --Fishing titles 0/8 [12:53:55] --Item: Aeonic Weapons titles 1/1 [12:53:55] --Einherjar titles 2/2 [12:53:55] --BCNM titles 12/14 [12:53:55] --Limbus titles 4/4 [12:53:55] --Abyssea titles 60/69 [12:53:55] --Quests titles 170/359 [12:53:55] --Stronghold Invasion titles 0/3 [12:53:55] --Vana'Bout titles 0/1 [12:53:55] --NPC: Parike-Poranke titles 0/2 [12:53:55] --Moblin Maze Mongers titles 0/5 [12:53:55] --NPC: Octavien titles 0/3 [12:53:55] --Sinister Reign titles 1/1 [12:53:55] --Mog Garden titles 1/33 [12:53:55] --Leathercraft titles 0/4 [12:53:55] --Cooking titles 0/4 [12:53:55] --Woodworking titles 0/4 [12:53:55] --Bonecraft titles 0/4 [12:53:55] --Nyzul Isle titles 1/1 [12:53:55] --Skirmish titles 5/7 [12:53:55] --Dynamis titles 25/28 [12:53:55] --Smithing titles 0/4 [12:53:55] --Goldsmithing titles 0/4 [12:53:55] --Odyssey titles 17/17 [12:53:55] --Walk of Echoes titles 30/30 [12:53:55] --Sortie titles 5/5 [12:53:55] --Voidwatch titles 17/17 [12:53:55] --Alchemy titles 0/4 [12:53:55] --Voidwalker titles 3/7 [12:53:55] --Meeble Burrows titles 10/10 [12:53:55] --Conquest Points titles 21/30 [12:53:55] --NM titles 59/61 [12:53:55] --Legion titles 5/5 [12:53:55] --Wildskeeper Reive titles 9/9 [12:53:55] --HTMB titles 32/32 [12:53:55] --Incursion titles 2/3 [12:53:55] --Campaign Ops titles 0/1 [12:53:55] --Omen titles 6/6 [12:53:55] --Chocobo Racing titles 0/6
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Asura.Sechs said: » Also, Egg Helm is useful if you ask me. On an average of ~200 successful digs, it provides you like what, ~22 additional items, all of which can potentially produce a skillup. Small difference either way, but every bit counts, right? No, I specifically tested it (and reported it on this thread?) during easter 2026.
Those specific items (it's like what, 5 types of items?) can all produce a skillup. I actually got the Sky Blue Silks "skillup" message multiple times on those items but, even more than that, I actually got at least a level up message on one of those items. So yeah, it works. Its a small difference... I suck at math, probably something like 10% more chances to get a skillup? Around ~20 more chances to get a skillup every day (200 successful digs cap) Now... what could be discussed is a different doubt: When you dig a "dice" is rolled that decides either "nothing" or "item". When is the Egg Helm dice "rolled"? Is it a third possible outcome on the previous dice roll? Or is it a dice roll AFTER the game has already decided it was not a "nothing"? No way to tell for sure but I noticed since using the Egg Helm that I do get higher number of items in my inventory after a full farming session. This could imply the Egg Helm is a third outcome on the first dice roll but... not entirely sure. Maybe I'm just getting more items because my Wing skill raised, eh.
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JudgeN said: » I finally hit MR7 after like a month of grinding *** ... We should all go play other video games, this ***terrible. Lol...
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I think the nature of chocobo digging was revealed with their own campaign notes.
In English: For the duration of the campaign, chocobo digging skill will be more likely to increase each time your chocobo digs. * When run concurrently with the Hyper Chocobo Digging Campaign, experience gains will be properly applied even though there are no changes in visual effects. In Japanese: チョコボの穴掘りを実行した際、チョコボの穴掘りのスキルが上がりやすくなります。 ※「チョコボの穴掘りサクサクキャンペーン」と同時に開催している場合、見た目に変化はありませんが経験値が加算されています。 This leads me to believe that each dig up has a hidden xp value and that it is based on this that we get the wing skill increases and not some hidden .1 that is occurring. It seems rather clear from the reported values that it is a pretty linear progression as well. Does anyone else agree? AeryBahamut said: » This leads me to believe that each dig up has a hidden xp value and that it is based on this that we get the wing skill increases and not some hidden .1 that is occurring. With all due respect, what in the world are you talking about? It seems very clear from the text above that it's a random chance to get a skillup. If it were guaranteed exp then it would be exactly the same number of digs for everyone, every time. It's not. It's random. AeryBahamut said: » chocobo digging skill will be more likely to increase each time your chocobo digs. somewhat useless but noteworthy, title npcs have some debug-menu or some old unreleased content (exists with every bard npc)
i checked the dats for they keyitems / items / titles that they consider as 'achievement' or unlocks, which seems to be pre-adoulin i only listed this because pankration >,>. somebody please explore that option im still camping tiamat for those "stuck" in their ranks, try unlock racing/balista/pankration/npc fellow and check if they been holding you back Asura.Eiryl said: » *Here's the list of all the ***I don't want to do* yeah those look like xbox achievement stuff. with the reflector and vcs card requirements
(which are totally good things to do. anything that is already in the system for SE to work with is probably included in mastery rank) HiPotion said: » somewhat useless but noteworthy, title npcs have some debug-menu or some old unreleased content (exists with every bard npc) i checked the dats for they keyitems / items / titles that they consider as 'achievement' or unlocks, which seems to be pre-adoulin i only listed this because pankration >,>. somebody please explore that option im still camping tiamat for those "stuck" in their ranks, try unlock racing/balista/pankration/npc fellow and check if they been holding you back Asura.Eiryl said: » *Here's the list of all the ***I don't want to do* This is definitely the Xbox achievement menu. I remember to unlock those, you had to specifically talk to a Traveling Bard (title changer) while on 360 to get the achievements.
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AeryBahamut said: » Does anyone else agree? In this scenario the Sky Blue Racing Silks would just increase the amount you get by some %.
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I am not sure, but it would be easy to assume it is likely just another boost to exp. Given how people have tracked the number of successful digs to increases in wing skill, with campaign active in particular - this should be relatively easy to test.
Earlier in the thread people had counted the number of digs, but I did not pay attention to whether it was silks or not they were using. To figure it out, I think the items dug would have to be tracked and compared. We do have a designation for 'rare items' though if they give more exp or not might be testable so long as two chars start digging from zero. And the skill ups from beastmen caches would have to be tracked too. I tracked all of my digs from some unknown level (under 10) to 100 in a spreadsheet but it was before wing skill was visible and we only had dig delays to go off.
TL;DR it took me 20,000 successful digs at 200 per day, alongside which were 1,500 misses (which don't contribute to daily cap), and I pulled up a total of 38,000 items (average of 1.9 per dig) with a burrow + bore bird. Using sky blue silks for 99% of it (forgot to equip it a handful of times) I got the skillup message 9875 times, it would probably have been exactly 50% if I remembered each time. The point was made that potentially the blue silks are better if your luck is higher due to twice as many chances to skill up, but honestly it was bad enough doing 200 per day, needing to double that for months would have been terrible. EDIT: Oh right, also 30 of these days were done during a skillup campaign, and 20 were done during a hyper digging one (not that it mattered at that point for me, but it is helpful for the first couple ranks).
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Kayte said: » The point was made that potentially the blue silks are better if your luck is higher due to twice as many chances to skill up, but honestly it was bad enough doing 200 per day, needing to double that for months would have been terrible I guess Blue would be fine for someone who has a proper way to do complete automation of the choco digging process. If you do share it with me! xD Until then I'm just keeping to use Sky Blue simply for the half-time required thing. One thing that we couldn't really test before, but maybe can with wing skill being visible now, is whether or not the sky blue bonus skillup is independent of the normal rate, which would make them better regardless for later levels.
As an example, I went from rank sub-10 to in the 40s in only a week or so. But after 70 it was taking me multiple weeks to go up another 10 ranks. This either means it's not like crafting with a flat 1.0 per rank (meaning at higher levels it's more digs per rank but at a constant skillup rate) or more likely, like crafting, the skillup rate plummets and you start only getting 0.1 much less often. In the latter case, guaranteed skillups from the sky blue (basically on 50% of your digs) would be immensely more beneficial than getting twice as many attempts at a 5% skillup chance or something. Someone without maxed wing skill could try to determine the average digs per rank with/without silks to prove it though. Well, I just provided the data with Sky Blue silks a few posts above.
If someone wants to provide data with Blue Silks instead, be my guest! Honestly I've been thinking about Wing Skill as a craft for a long time but from experience something didn't feel right. Imagining it like an Experience Level as in each dig gives you a flat amount of xp but the amount required increases with each Wing Skill and Sky Blue giving you just a % boost to that basic amount you get on each succesful skill... I dunno, the more I think about it the more it makes a lot of sense to me. |
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