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Pools closed (Asura is full!)
 Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-12-08 18:30:23
if asura's population is really a problem i think they could have gone about it a bunch of different ways
for example:
1. shutdown asura and allow free transfers off.
cap each server at x%(bahamut 200, cerb 1000 as an example) transfers until they no longer allow free transfers
2. split asura into 2 new(old servers, i.e titan/alexander). let people pick which one but keep in mind the above, once titan hits 2000 stop transfers and force alexander.
the way they are going about this is just going to result in wherever they don't close down being the next mega hub because it isn't done intelligently. asura is also not super likely to go down in population as they announced it in a way that gave people time to prepare and make accounts there if needed.
there is a chance that what i suggested also wouldn't work and would result in the same problem, but i would view that as not as likely as what they are doing now.
i think it's also pretty unlikely they open up asura or bahamut anytime soon which is terrible for the player experience on a 23 year old game and will result in people quitting due to not being able to transfer to do their empys on a dead server or result in someone not playing because they can't get into a locked server with their friends.
all in all, i think SE is doing the worst possible thing to address this issue
Of all the things they could have done, they did pick the worst (realistic) option.
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By Foxfire 2025-12-08 18:50:15
honestly if not for the people i've met on asura since moving here (and those i knew on siren moving to asura as well), i'd likely go back to siren. sure it's mostly japanese folks on there but i'd rather see japanese yells than «Odyssey»NM T1-T4 V0-V25 Clear/Super ChargeRP segs12k Sortie40k TVR Limbus «master» Trials «Buy?» spread across seventeen accounts
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By CrAZYVIC 2025-12-08 19:05:20
Square Enix should’ve merged every server into three or four mega worlds a long time ago. One unified Auction House per cluster, more instances. But they didn’t. Because server transfers bring in money, and the gil-seller ban cycle keeps the cash wheel spinning. They don’t break the loop… they rely on it.
And then we get to the design choices.
Six-man locked content.
That alone smothers end game linkshells. You can’t build a real community when half your people spend the night benched because the content refuses to scale. It kills momentum. It kills social play. It kills the soul of the game… slowly.
Support jobs?
Don’t even get me started. Needing three supports (BRD, COR, GEO) in a six man party or nine in a full alliance isn’t balance. It’s a damn iron weight chained to the entire playerbase’s neck… and whoever green lit that idea must’ve been having one legendary off day
And Job Points, Master Levels…
That whole system is begging no, screaming for a rework. Same with GM moderation. Private servers can silence a bad shout in thirty seconds, but the official server? It’s drowning in RMT spam like nobody’s minding the store.
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 816
By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-12-08 19:35:13
if asura's population is really a problem i think they could have gone about it a bunch of different ways
for example:
1. shutdown asura and allow free transfers off.
cap each server at x%(bahamut 200, cerb 1000 as an example) transfers until they no longer allow free transfers
2. split asura into 2 new(old servers, i.e titan/alexander). let people pick which one but keep in mind the above, once titan hits 2000 stop transfers and force alexander.
the way they are going about this is just going to result in wherever they don't close down being the next mega hub because it isn't done intelligently. asura is also not super likely to go down in population as they announced it in a way that gave people time to prepare and make accounts there if needed.
there is a chance that what i suggested also wouldn't work and would result in the same problem, but i would view that as not as likely as what they are doing now.
i think it's also pretty unlikely they open up asura or bahamut anytime soon which is terrible for the player experience on a 23 year old game and will result in people quitting due to not being able to transfer to do their empys on a dead server or result in someone not playing because they can't get into a locked server with their friends.
all in all, i think SE is doing the worst possible thing to address this issue
100%, the fact that they stemmed the growth is fine, but they didnt follow through with any means/incentive to reduce pop.
 Carbuncle.Nynja
サーバ: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 7180
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-08 19:52:12
This you?
You act like merging 2 - 2k sized servers into a 4k server would make a big difference
This you?
What I want is a redistribution of players to make it less extreme.
Merging smaller servers into a mid-large server isnt a choice for the players of those smaller servers.
You know what is a choice though?
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/intro/optional/wd_transfer01.html
Using that and going to whatever server you want.
The entire topic in this thread is discussing a problem with the game and what SE's done. No, its not a problem with the game, its a problem with YOUR server, and your solutions involve *** up 4-12 other servers.
GHN has solutions that dont *** things up for 4-12 servers.
Merges and closures do.
Carbuncle.Nynja
サーバ: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 7180
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-08 20:03:06
If a bunch of people from Bahamut and Asura migrate to my server and it triples in active population, so be it.
If my server triples in population because it got merged with 3 others, I'm gonna have problem. Like you said:
The top is a choice, the bottom is not.
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 816
By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-12-08 20:20:33
If a bunch of people from Bahamut and Asura migrate to my server and it triples in active population, so be it.
If my server triples in population because it got merged with 3 others, I'm gonna have problem. Like you said:
The top is a choice, the bottom is not.
Where the hell are you coming up with TRIPLES. The overexaggerating of your statements is why no ones taking you seriously.
If they merged 4 servers into one that'd be the new biggest pop server, or at least damn near Asura.... why would they do that? Your just saying things to be inflammatory at this point
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 816
By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-12-08 20:23:49
This you?
You act like merging 2 - 2k sized servers into a 4k server would make a big difference
This you?
What I want is a redistribution of players to make it less extreme.
Merging smaller servers into a mid-large server isnt a choice for the players of those smaller servers.
You know what is a choice though?
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/intro/optional/wd_transfer01.html
Using that and going to whatever server you want.
The entire topic in this thread is discussing a problem with the game and what SE's done. No, its not a problem with the game, its a problem with YOUR server, and your solutions involve *** up 4-12 other servers.
GHN has solutions that dont *** things up for 4-12 servers.
Merges and closures do.
Your taking the choice comment out of context and applying it to a different statement.
Also, it is a problem for the game you moron. SE doesnt operate one server alone, they operate them ALL. The overall health of Final Fantasy 11 is what they're balancing when they make these decisions"
You continue to talk past my statements without reading them, clip pieces of them out and yell at me for them. You're an incredibly unserious person
Carbuncle.Nynja
サーバ: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 7180
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-08 23:57:04
If a bunch of people from Bahamut and Asura migrate to my server and it triples in active population, so be it.
If my server triples in population because it got merged with 3 others, I'm gonna have problem. Like you said:
The top is a choice, the bottom is not.
Where the hell are you coming up with TRIPLES. The overexaggerating of your statements is why no ones taking you seriously.
If they merged 4 servers into one that'd be the new biggest pop server, or at least damn near Asura.... why would they do that? Your just saying things to be inflammatory at this point If my server got merged with ONE other server, I'm gonna have a problem, because again, no choice in the matter.
Also, it is a problem for the game you moron. SE doesnt operate one server alone, they operate them ALL. The overall health of Final Fantasy 11 is what they're balancing when they make these decisions" People on my server seem pretty happy. Sorry your servers a shithole. Blame Reddit for telling everyone "come to Asura!"
As far as health of the game, if were to use active accounts as some kind of metric, because its literally the only tangible metric we have to work with:
December 2023 there were 76,673 active accounts
December 2024 there were 70,955 active accounts
December 2025 there are 87,838 active accounts
The fact they're actually putting out new content, even if its rather mid, is a promising sign that they approve of the numbers as they are.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-12-22 05:00:01
Odin takes the top slot as of today
"we're closing Odin" in 5....4....3...
Bahamut fell off fast.
Bahamut.Seonyx
サーバ: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34
By Bahamut.Seonyx 2025-12-22 05:13:43
"The beatings will continue until morale improves"
By GetHelpNerd 2025-12-22 08:04:54
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 173
By Asura.Certainly 2025-12-23 00:13:46
as stated it was taken twice a day and outputted to an excel file, it was not manual no.
How does this work? Can you just grab the numbers somewhere without logging in? I dont see you having a char on each server just to obtain numbers.
By Kadokawa 2025-12-23 00:44:56
So Asura still Closed?
By GetHelpNerd 2025-12-23 06:01:53
as stated it was taken twice a day and outputted to an excel file, it was not manual no.
How does this work? Can you just grab the numbers somewhere without logging in? I dont see you having a char on each server just to obtain numbers. well for the latter part you'd be incorrect in what you're seeing
yes
By MelioraXI 2025-12-23 07:04:32
Might not make a difference in terms of the argument "we're near max capacity" but I'd imagine the peak is explained by the return home campaign, so it might go down soon enough unless its organic growth then It'll be interesting to hear if any response from the dev team.
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By GetHelpNerd 2025-12-23 07:58:57
as far as i can tell we are still down in players compared to the free campgin/mog kupon event in may.
i think this sunday will be the peak for a while but might not surpass that previous peak in may.
Bahamut.Finneus
サーバ: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2
By Bahamut.Finneus 2025-12-23 08:26:16
You can bet they won’t open Bahamut or Asura during a discount campaign.
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Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2026-03-11 21:19:50
Someone gotta keep an eye on shiva and phoenix (rag mehbe)
See who wins ffxi's next top dumpsterfire
I'm gonna look but not really track 5511/4899
By RadialArcana 2026-03-12 04:49:04
Matsui had more natural mindset for the game, he let things happen that were bad if he felt they helped the community more to be that way.
Fujito is far more ordered and strict.
Personally I feel they should re-open, you don't get the endless stream of level 1 characters now but closing the server still ruins the vibe of the game when new players can join.
The negatives of a perma closed server are more damaging than the positives of cracking down on rmt and overpop
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By Tarage 2026-03-12 04:56:29
Someone gotta keep an eye on shiva and phoenix (rag mehbe)
See who wins ffxi's next top dumpsterfire
I'm gonna look but not really track 5511/4899
No way is it gonna be Rag. We had someone try it already and they starved to death.
Just a warning, you are no longer allowed to make new characters on Asura.
Presumably, if you server swap for "reasons" you won't be able to get back if someone takes your spot in that time.
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