Prime WS Information, Testing, Discussion

Imo you can make due with less. If I was going to add samples here, I would add them to your 1k No Fotia base case. What kind of kills you here is that it's your least precise sample (only 86% coverage).

Confirming that With Fotia is gorget only?

Correct. This was my weaponskill set for the first line of testing to determine the tp scaling. I did all the tests as Monk/Warrior. So no WSD trait of any sort from any source.

ItemSet 402029

I did a series with this, and a series with fotia gorget added for each tp value. Fotia gorget was the only change from the first and second sets at each tp value. I had 296 strength and 412 dex in this set.

Then for the strength testing I added accessories that raised my strength but didn't raise my dex. JSE cape with 30 strength and DA rate, gere ring, cornelia's belt, schere earring, and odnowa earring +1, and republican platinum medal (I'm currently a citizen of windurst so the regain is inactive and won't affect data).

I have fewer dex accessories but still enough to get the job done. I used a JSE cape for 30 dex and no other mods, and threw in ilabrat and odr earring to raise my dex for that test.

I can continue gathering data for the sets with lower variance. I'll try to get everything to at least 1.47 spread. There are a few that are higher. So some of the data points should be fine. I'll update with the new values when I have something for you guys to review.

4.95+ would be ideal.
Ofc that doesnt need to be done for every threshold or wsc change, but at least for 1000TP with and without Fotia and maybe for 1000TP no fotia with some DEX or STR change.

That being said it is something around those values (extremely close)

WSC 40% STR/DEX
1000 3.136
2000 7.385
3000 11.67

That correlates with the data from a japaneese test done here https://x.com/za_ibd/status/1946560930952904805

That test reports

STR/DEX 44%
fTP Values:
1000 TP-778/256 - 3.04
2000 TP-1812/256 - 7.08
3000 TP-2827/256 - 11.04

I'll try to get a bigger spread on the values. The 1k is being far more stubborn than some of the others. I swear everything wants to land in the 7900 to 8200 range, which isn't a big enough spread. I'll keep playing around until I get something better.

My biggest takeaway from all this is that we completely overshot the WSC stat mods on the wiki. Whether the str/dex mod is 40 or 45, that's a pretty big difference from the wiki's reported 60% str/60% dex. The tp scaling is close on all counts between the wiki, the japaneese test I linked, and my own data so far. There's some room for variance but we're close. The secondary stat mods though are quite a ways off from what the wiki has.

I'll keep working with it. No ETA on when I'll report back. I'll try to get as good of a sample as I can. This could take quite a while though.

If it's 44% it's for sure not fTP he listed

fTP that fits for 44% and numbers gathered by you are:

2.992
7.05
11.155

I would lean more toward what you initially suggested Simon. I think it's far more likely the strength and dex mods are 40%. I think there's a very good chance stat mod conclusion the japaneese test came to is flawed, just as whatever tests were done that led to the wiki stating a 60% str and 60% dex mod. I'll keep working at it. But that part of our previous understanding is clearly wrong.

I did 50 more weaponskills at the 1000 tp mark with no fotia last night and managed to come up with 8244 as a high and 7868 as a low, which is a lot closer to what we want but still only 0.0477 difference. I'll keep playing with that one for a while and then work on some of the others too. Hopefully I can get samples at 4.9% at least for everything. I'll make a side project out of it for a while.

I suspect the values may end up being

40% Str/40% dex
1000 3.0
2000 7.5
3000 11.5

That's the direction I think we're heading toward. Hopefully a better sample will be able to confirm that.

It cant be that far from the values I posted earlier for 40%WSC. Combined spread from all of you numbers was enough to pin point it pretty accurately for specific WSC%.