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By darkwaffle 2026-05-18 21:51:48  
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I played with the ITG mob on Asura for awhile(yesterday,the site was down, EDIT:I see it did pop finally), killed it 6x in about 1.5 hours.It never popped the glowy ???. Tried mellee/ws/magic kill even TH'ing it. Which seemingly was very hard to even proc 9. Nothing.

Everytime I killed it I went back to start, waited 2-3minutes, started scanning for it again and found it every time. So it seems to respawn almost immediately. In the 6x I killed it, it was never really "off-path" to where it would sit up for hours/days. I suspect its concstantly being killed and just not turning to the ??? glowy


When you say 'back to start' I assume you mean the current floor? And you were able to find it that reliably? Any ideas if the ITG always repops on the same floor or is it possible you were the only person in Limbus at the time so the respawn maybe had nowhere else to go?

I just killed an ITG Gigas on Central 4 in Temenos on my server, waited a few minutes and checked everything twice but couldn't find it again on that floor unfortunately. Could just be coincidence but Central 4 is also where the last ??? popped on our server.

Edit: Finished my run and went back to check Central 4 again and lo and behold I did find an ITG Unseelie. No ??? still but at least it was on the same floor. However upon running through again one last time a short while later I could not find any ITG.
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By Valefor.Philemon 2026-05-20 23:50:32  
I've been trying to hunt the ITG mob the last few nights, this ***sucks.
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By Garretts 2026-05-21 05:56:52  
I made a little tool for this:

https://github.com/DSGarrett/ImpossibleGauge

It's basically a configurable /check spam that alerts on anything with the "impossible to gauge" response.

In a typical four floor run it will send 700-900 /checks. (50 yalm / 2.0 sec interval)
It doesn't provide any additional info, other than narrowing down if its a ton berry, or a course, or whatever. But its pretty useful to turn on and then not worry about finding the mob unless it alerts you its in the vicinity.

As always, use at your own risk, etc. Etc.
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By Valefor.Philemon 2026-05-21 11:31:40  
I don't even mind the ITG search, I've just never successfully spawned the ???. That's my main gripe.
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By Asura.Toralin 2026-05-21 13:16:35  
darkwaffle said: »
Asura.Toralin said: »
I played with the ITG mob on Asura for awhile(yesterday,the site was down, EDIT:I see it did pop finally), killed it 6x in about 1.5 hours.It never popped the glowy ???. Tried mellee/ws/magic kill even TH'ing it. Which seemingly was very hard to even proc 9. Nothing.

Everytime I killed it I went back to start, waited 2-3minutes, started scanning for it again and found it every time. So it seems to respawn almost immediately. In the 6x I killed it, it was never really "off-path" to where it would sit up for hours/days. I suspect its concstantly being killed and just not turning to the ??? glowy


When you say 'back to start' I assume you mean the current floor? And you were able to find it that reliably? Any ideas if the ITG always repops on the same floor or is it possible you were the only person in Limbus at the time so the respawn maybe had nowhere else to go?

I just killed an ITG Gigas on Central 4 in Temenos on my server, waited a few minutes and checked everything twice but couldn't find it again on that floor unfortunately. Could just be coincidence but Central 4 is also where the last ??? popped on our server.

Edit: Finished my run and went back to check Central 4 again and lo and behold I did find an ITG Unseelie. No ??? still but at least it was on the same floor. However upon running through again one last time a short while later I could not find any ITG.
I would just start back at the first tower/floor with bolters roll ripping through them spamming check tool
I never saw it on the same floor back to back, but Asura has people all over killing. I suspect when a mob dies it has a chance to respawn as the ITG mob. it doesnt spawn in a family thats sitting fully spawned.
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By zeta 2026-05-21 17:46:17  
Garretts said: »
I made a little tool for this:

https://github.com/DSGarrett/ImpossibleGauge

It's basically a configurable /check spam that alerts on anything with the "impossible to gauge" response.

In a typical four floor run it will send 700-900 /checks. (50 yalm / 2.0 sec interval)
It doesn't provide any additional info, other than narrowing down if its a ton berry, or a course, or whatever. But its pretty useful to turn on and then not worry about finding the mob unless it alerts you its in the vicinity.

As always, use at your own risk, etc. Etc.

Does checking mob all work client side or are we sending server requests each time?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-05-21 18:34:20  
I dont think theres a way to do a /check without sending a server request.
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By Asura.Toralin 2026-05-21 19:35:34  
It’s at least caching them for 120 seconds so it doesn’t recheck ones in the cache
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By Gasho 2026-05-24 02:55:57  
am i having a bad luck or this is normal?

getting 1-3 everyweek~ got zero on some weeks too, seeing people getting 3-5 -.-
lv119~ changing towers, anything more im missing? is there a tower for races like before?

ty
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-05-24 03:16:27  
Your post is incredibly vague, so i have no idea how to answer.

1-3 matters? 1-3 5k chests? How many chests are you opening? Is that just Apollyon, just temenos, or both combined? What are the words you wrote supposed to mean?

I would say 1-3 is pretty normal for 5 climbs in 1 zone in 1 week. 3 is quite nice, 4 is incredible. 1 is extraordinarily unlucky, but ***happens sometimes. 0 is impossible unless you *** up.

All those numbers are for matter. Getting more than 2, or certainly 3, 5k chests per week is very nice. Getting 1 is pretty average/OK.

There are no races or any stupid gimmicks. Just anecdotes being anecdotes.
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By Garfield 2026-05-24 03:18:36  
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got zero on some weeks too
Rng is going to be rng, but this is impossible if you are doing at least 4 climbs a week and rotating chests.

You're guaranteed 1 matter within 4 chests so just doing 4 climbs is 1 guarantee per week or if you do all 5 climbs then you guarantee 5 matters per month. (Via the 5k lucky chests - clarification)

The amount of mannequin NMs killed on your server dictates the drop rate of matters, so that could have an effect, but 2-3 would be average, some weeks you will only see 1, others you'll see 5. My alt went 4 weeks 1/4 on alabaster matters back before the new code item when I only did 4 climbs a week.

Also once you find your lucky chest, it does have a chance to repeat into that same tower, I've changed my ways to always reopen a lucky chest, because if you don't and it does repeat, you won't see the lucky again until your 4th chest open and that feels bad to me, also I've had both my characters repeat towers 2-4 times several times.
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By Aylee515 2026-05-24 07:14:27  
Gasho said: »
am i having a bad luck or this is normal?

getting 1-3 everyweek~ got zero on some weeks too, seeing people getting 3-5 -.-
lv119~ changing towers, anything more im missing? is there a tower for races like before?

ty

4 towers per zone, 5 openings per week bu heres the math
1 hq chest = 100%
2 hq chest = 62%.5%
3 hq chest 15.625%
4 hq chest = 1.953%
5 hq chest = .098%

So decent chance you will get 2 HQ chest per week. The earlier you find your first one the better. your average will be about 2 HQ chest a week. You then have to factor in NQ chest can also drop matter. From my experience nq chest have ~50% chance of dropping a matter. Highest probability is you get 2 hq and 3 nq chest a week. This would equate to 3.5 matters a week.

hq = 2 matter
nq = 1.5 matter

That said this is long term averages and its all rng. I have 3 toons. 1 toon has balanced matter atm. 1 toon has surplus of murky, and third had surplus of alabaster. I have 1 toon that has 2 R30 and 1 piece at R11, the other was struggling to finish her second R30.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-05-24 09:39:29  
Gasho said: »
got zero on some weeks too
Impossible, PEBCAC issue
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By LightningHelix 2026-05-24 10:11:24  
Yeah, it's literally impossible to get zero if you just open one chest per area (and the fifth in any of the areas) every week.

Are you sure you're not capped on units and then "only" getting 3,000 because you're capped on units? You can tell if it's the good chest because it throws a whole explosion of loot at you.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-05-24 10:34:08  
It's not necessarily "literally impossible" if we assume he's not maximizing box/climbs per week. He's already somewhat implied that he's not rotating towers, so he may also be doing 1-3 climbs weekly. He could get no matters on a particular week, if he only did a couple of climbs and no no tower rotations were done, assuming 3k.

My first Temenos Code use (which was the only box I opened on that particular week) gave me no matter, so technically that week I got "zero matters". Kind of misleading with information, but still possible.

Anyways, from my very limited climb history, the drop rate on matters is at least 75% or so on 3k chests. It's more common than not getting a matter. However, recency/negativity bias is a thing; I "feel" like I have terrible drop rates on matters (I don't, based on how many I actually have vs how many runs I do), because my mind hyper focuses on the few times I don't get a matter, and focuses less on the majority of the time i do get matters. We all do that. But I don't really think the drop rate on matters is all that bad. It is frustrating not getting a matter though, because it feels like a waste of my time even bothering with the climb to begin with. But that's just me
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-05-24 11:34:26  
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
He's already somewhat implied that he's not rotating towers
As I said, PEBCAC issue.

Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
so he may also be doing 1-3 climbs weekly.
It stands to reason that someone saying "I'm not getting the same results as everyone else, what am I doing wrong" is implying they're putting the same effort as everyone else. If theyre only doing 1-3 climbs in each zone per week when everyone else is doing 5, then theres the reason they get shittier results.
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By LightningHelix 2026-05-24 11:37:28  
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
He's already somewhat implied that he's not rotating towers,
Gasho said: »
lv119~ changing towers,
...did I misread "changing towers"?

like if they got literally zero they either don't know about the "you only get 3,000 if you're at cap because that's all the units you can hold" or they aren't rotating towers, those are the two possible options
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-05-24 11:40:12  
He might be changing towers, but he's not necssarily rotating towers. Again, I could be wrong, but its possible he's finishing a set at:
NW
NE
SW
NE
NW

And never opens the box at SE (just an example)
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By Taint 2026-05-24 12:53:21  
Mains = 30% chance at Matters
Alts = 95% chance at Matters

Eyeball math but pretty sure its correct. :P
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By LightningHelix 2026-05-24 17:19:22  
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
He might be changing towers, but he's not necssarily rotating towers. Again, I could be wrong, but its possible he's finishing a set at:
NW
NE
SW
NE
NW

And never opens the box at SE (just an example)
Oh, this actually makes perfect sense, yeah. That would be both changing towers and 0% to hit your lucky chest. Gotta hit 'em all!
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By Aylee515 2026-05-28 14:03:16  
our Temenos ??? despawned today. Decided to hunt the Nm. We recorded 22 kills, with no ??? drop. We did confirm however ITG Mob is instant spawn and can pop on same floor as prior (had this happen twice)

25+ kills and it finally popped.
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By Asura.Warpy 2026-05-31 00:33:10  
I keep a record of every chest I open, which tower, whether it contains a Matter or not, which one is the 5K chest and which is the 'Coded' chest.
However, I finished my 5th Temenos chest on Friday (4 normal climbs and 1 Coded chest). So, this morning (Sunday) I see another ??? reported on C4 Meeble room. I change the lv to 119, go for the ??? and it's then I notice I have a full KI set in my 'Items' along with the Temenos Code. I open the chest on C4 and get the 5K (my 2nd this week) from my 6th chest.
Not sure what/how this occurred. Anyone else seen this?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-05-31 01:16:52  
Just sacrificed tomorrow's free codes to test (oh well):

Went to Apollyon (did 4+code this week, so same scenario), changed level to 119, grabbed ???, no code, no KIs.

Went to Temenos (did 1+code this week, not same scenario but tested anyways), changed to 119, grabbed ???, no code, no KIs.

No idea what you did. Maybe post your log of each box open?
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By Asura.Warpy 2026-05-31 01:46:18  
I did a climb with a party on Saturday on my WAR purely for the EP.
Job change resets any progress but I'd finished my climbs and can't remember the KIs registering in my chat log lol.
The only thing I can think of is I recorded wrong with the first free ??? (my 3rd climb) seeing I've had 2 this week but this still makes 6 chests.
My records of Tem this week:
1. 3k Matter
2. 3k Matter
3. Free Code, no Matter
4. 5k Matter
5. 3k no Matter
6. Free Code 5k Matter. This was opened on DRK after changing to Lv 119 and after an EP climb on my WAR.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-05-31 03:54:50  
Changing jobs? Or leaving the zone only affects the progress bar and has absolutely no effect on any temp items (not key items) received.

Seems like a case of mistaken memory or improper tracking.
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By Asura.Reidden 2026-05-31 12:45:14  
I did Temenos code today on C4 and decided to open the chest right there and got matters on all my characters, so 5/5. I've only been doing code since it came out, so I gave up on running to a different tower. Went 4/5 in Apollyon running to a different tower tho lol
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-05-31 13:53:07  
I thought you could only get one code per zone per week?

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In the Limbus battle content, you can now obtain the temporary items "Temenos Code" and "Apollyon Code" by examining the "???" that appears in Temenos and Apollyon.
These temporary items can be obtained once per week (Earth time) and are used to open treasure chests within Temenos and Apollyon. They can also be carried over if unused. If you already have some temporary items or possess excess unique data, they will be consumed in the following order of priority:
・Existing temporary item > new temporary item > unique data
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By Aylee515 2026-05-31 17:23:24  
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
I thought you could only get one code per zone per week?

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In the Limbus battle content, you can now obtain the temporary items "Temenos Code" and "Apollyon Code" by examining the "???" that appears in Temenos and Apollyon.
These temporary items can be obtained once per week (Earth time) and are used to open treasure chests within Temenos and Apollyon. They can also be carried over if unused. If you already have some temporary items or possess excess unique data, they will be consumed in the following order of priority:
・Existing temporary item > new temporary item > unique data

Correct. Can touch the ??? once per spawn (so 2, maybe 3 a week if perfect conditions). But the code will only be granted once per conquest.
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By Asura.Warpy 2026-06-07 11:47:01  
Ignore if already posted but I just got a 5k chest with no Matter. So not guaranteed.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-06-07 11:48:59  
I'd be willing to bet that
A-your inventory filled up so you didnt get the matter (try making room and clicking box again if you're still in area)
B-server side you got the matter, but the packet with the message got dropped, it'll turn up in your inventory.


Or C, which is very unlikely considering you're on Asura, all the NM's werent killed and your box wasnt upgraded.
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