The problem with the gear is that its mostly useless garbage without the augments. Other than Rev Lg/Ft for bard, because they have dogshit TP options in those slots, whats worth it at Rank 0-20 thats more than just a sidegrade vs Ambu+2 or R0 Gaol or AF/Relic+4 or Emp+2? I set low expectations and nothing stands out.
Sure, once you get to R20++ they start to get good. Remind the class again how long it takes to get enough materials to get ONE PIECE of equipment to R20?
Lets not get started on those embarrassing weapon augments.
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: » It made me not log in for several days and then my sub ran out. And I'm not necessarily in a hurry to resub for 30 more days. So it's going amazing. Et tu, Buukki? I go to Limbus when the tracker site says there's a ??? spot up, I collect it on my main and mules, open a chest if I received a code and then I leave Limbus.
I Started upgrading the Sworn Platemail on 3rd May with 1 Ala Matter in my inventory from the previous week. With all 10 (8) climbs done per week, 7 weeks later it's R25. I'm hoping to get this thing finished in the next 2 weeks so I can start on the hands/legs/feet. Not sure what to do about the weapons yet..
That is wack.
7 weeks to r25 a r30 piece of 5 armor? If it did a thing beyond parsing the best, maybe but all the limbus ***isnt necessary to finish the sortie, odyssey, omen, dyna, etc. stuff in game. Far be it for me to complain about min/maxing , but *** limbus sucks pretty bad, so bad that the rewards, as they exist currently, are not worth imho. Carbuncle.Nynja said: » The problem with the gear is that its mostly useless garbage without the augments. Other than Rev Lg/Ft for bard, because they have dogshit TP options in those slots, whats worth it at Rank 0-20 thats more than just a sidegrade vs Ambu+2 or R0 Gaol or AF/Relic+4 or Emp+2? I set low expectations and nothing stands out. Sure, once you get to R20++ they start to get good. Remind the class again how long it takes to get enough materials to get ONE PIECE of equipment to R20? Lets not get started on those embarrassing weapon augments. Clemency legs for DRG's idle regen set pewpew ^^b Garretts said: » If it did a thing beyond parsing the best, maybe but all the limbus ***isnt necessary to finish the sortie, odyssey, omen, dyna, etc. stuff in game. Sweet baby Jesus, I wish people would stop bringing up this insanely stupid point. If you want gear that is required to complete 10 year old content, IDK what to tell you bro. Do you think that the fact that we "finished" Sortie 2 years ago means that no new gear has any purpose whatsoever is a valuable point to add to the conversation? What's the solution? SE should stop releasing gear? How *** braindead is this argument?
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About 2.5 pieces to R30. Got a bunch of HQ2 stuff in storage from all the mats for the future from a couple wonderful crafters. For someone who doesn't have a consistent schedule to be grinding sortie and ody 2+ hours a day with other people, this gear helps to fill in the gaps.
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I'm gonna side with Maletaru on this one. Just because the gear takes a long time to get doesn't mean it isn't BiS. It gives us something to do with friends and something to work toward. I mentioned in the warrior thread that everyone is gonna be at different stages in their progress so it isn't easy to recommend to people for set upgrades, but it is worth building. I'll be doing the entire duty and revelation sets eventually. No idea how long it'll take me, but at this point there's little else to do with my playtime beyond helping others get caught up, and I do plenty of that as well.
I couldn't imagine trying to solo this content though. Clearing towers efficiently with good friends makes it a lot better of an experience, and I don't mind it as much in good company. The exemplar gain is also quite good, provided you can sync to lvl 30 or thereabouts.
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Isn't today black chest day?
Quote: Isn't today black chest day? I think it should be for Asura yes. The black chest upgrade allows us to get the new weapon materials right? Oh yeah, I didn't mention it in my last post but it's also worth bringing up the fact that these new gear sets also dramatically reduce the amount of gear you need to carry around once you finish them. They're nearly universally BiS at TP gain with only a few JSE specific options better for some classes, so when you finish them you can put a lot of gear in storage permanently. Most jobs would wear either 4/5 or 5/5 limbus if they had it fully R30'd. Everybody always complains their wardrobes are too full, and this is a way to alleviate that problem, even if we do have to work our butts off to get it. Taint said: » Isn't today black chest day? It's here on Asura now, yes 0/2 matter.
1/2 material. I got 1 material out of 6 chests, 3 Apollyon 3 Temenos. Got some 5ks that didn't include a material. It's not 100%.
Opened 6 chests with codes (3 chars), 1 material off of a 3k chest
None of those were 5k chests
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The problem isnt that the gear isnt great at R30, literally no one has said that (mage set not-withstanding), the problem is that it takes about 2 1/2 months to get a SINGLE PIECE OF GEAR to a usable state (not even R30, just a usable state). It takes 3 months to get a stage 4 prime, and that blows the everliving *** out of any single limbus armor piece way out of the stratosphere.
If jewel creation was one matter + 2 shards at the relevant zone, at 2 HQ boxes per week and 1-2 matter from the 3 NQ boxes, thats still 4~5 weeks just to R30 a single piece.
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material looks to be about 15% drop rate. 13/78 currently with my group.
The fact the gear is BiS doesn't make Limbus suck any less.
Limbus doesn't magically get better by the inclusion of a diamond encrusted carrot attached onto the end of a stinky *** piece of excrement. Polish a turd and all that. I mean I tried, I really did. It's just so boring. 4/36 Alabaster Material
8/36 Murky Material What a great day to stay inside and be disappointed by a video game's fake item drop rates and complain about it on the forums!
Of note: the bonus chest does not guarantee a Material, and Materials may be in the non-bonus chest.
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Yall could have refilled the algae ridden reflecting pool 10 times over with all the tears in this thread.
Didn't have enough matters to R30 it just yet (booo) but at R20 augments are as expected, based on what Thorny discovered. No surprises.
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1/18 on Murky Material, 7 HQ boxes in that batch.
I didnt do 10 clears on one day to hyper consume the slop.
But anyways The grind to upgrade a SINGLE PIECE OF ARMOR is *** ridiculously long. This is a fact. It may be based on an opinion of what is or is not considered ridiculously long, but just to compare, presuming the following: 12k segments per Sheol C run (unrealistic in this scenario since a full clear already assumes S tier equipment, including R30 Nyame) 100% kill rate on every Gaol NM (unrealistic at V25) No Amplifiers (just to balance things out with Limbus not having any PL options) No PLing up to higher Veng 8 weeks (56 runs) of farming Sheol C will net you 672000 segments. Clearing your way up to and through V25 Bumba will cost you 255000 segments and give you a base 2520RP on every NM. You have 417000 segments leftover. A single piece of equipment costs 44020 RP, so you'll need 220100RP to R30 all 5 Nyame pieces. If you spend those remaining 417000 segments fighting and beating Bumba V25 139 times (remember no Amps), earning 161796 RP in the process, you will have 164316RP for Nyame. This is enough to get THREE pieces of Nyame up to R30, and another piece up to R27. Everyone here would agree that this would be an absolute *** slog (also impossible to go 140/140 on Bumba V25 kills, but regardless) and yet this pacing is somehow still almost four times *** better than what it takes to upgrade a single piece of Limbus gear. In 8 weeks, at 3.5 matter per week (2 from HQ box, 50% from NQ box), you'll have enough matter to get a single piece of gear up to R28. And before you decide to argue anything of these numbers, unless its to correct a mathematical mistake I made, Gaol was added Jan 2021, Atonement 3 added Feb, Bumba added March, Amps were added a paltry two months later in May 2021. V20 fights didnt even exist at this point.
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I still remember soloing Gogmagog V15 for RP on Monk without Amplifiers in between Segment runs. Back then, you had to kill the boss to even get decent RP, and iirc it was still like 392/kill@V15. I was able to cap R20 Coiste Bodhar in a couple of weeks. It was slow, but not necessarily a slog. Once RP cheese and Amplifiers were released, it became a breeze and then people could cap out pieces in a few hours. But that was when later vengs came out. With ranked 20 gear as the cap, you could RP pieces at a slow pace, assuming you could kill t3 bosses on v15. You didn't really need to though, since the base stats on the gear was great on it's own.
They understood the assignment with Limbus by not stepping all over Gaol gear completely on base stats, but locking all the good stats behind higher ranks. The opposite of what Gaol gear was (minus Nyame), the augments just being supplemental to the incredibly good base gear. Designed this way because Limbus technically is easy, open content for everyone, so the reward hunt has to be longer. Whereas Gaol is harder, So the reward hunt is not as grindy but getting access to the rewards is challenging. I mean, I get the thought behind it, and it makes sense as far as satisfying both groups of players (experienced vets and beginners) but it's just terrible to the point that it backfires. It's content, so people will do it (or not), but it's undesirable. Then again, without Amplifiers, RPing Gaol gear would equally be hell. So I'm envisioning somewhere in November-January they implement a way to speed up this grind. Just based on historical timelines.
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