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New trust system - Who will you upgrade first?
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-03-10 11:13:37
I think someone tested and found that the spermys have a really really ridiculously high macc stat that makes it impossible to resist their sleepgas.
Asura.Vyre
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By Asura.Vyre 2026-03-10 11:34:48
Like pretty much everyone else, defensive stats first, and then offensive ones last.
HP -> MND + INT -> VIT -> AGI -> MP -> STR -> DEX -> CHR for me.
We joke about Qultada, but I won't mind having the physical stats for Ayame and Shikaree Z or any other trust that performs skillchains in an orderly way.
Skillchain Waifu makes me Doki Doki
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By Chimerawizard 2026-03-10 13:29:54
HP/VIT > MND/INT > DEX > STR/AGI > Hodor 1000 > MP/CHR
I'm very much open to adjusting order of VIT & mental stats.
See no point in upgrading MP or CHR, may as well just save for secondary stats instead if those even ever get added.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2026-03-10 13:39:38
If you wait 6 months or a year etc you can instacap fastcast or haste or DT or WSD or meva or whatever they eventually figure out trusts actually need.
(subtle blow, please, a full 100%)
But there is a cap so you gotta spend
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-03-10 13:50:08
Eiryl with more false statements, must be a day ending in “y”:
If you believe they will add further customizations in the future, dump the trust pages in storage and use them later when/if they add other stats / raise the cap
Youre welcome
By denied 2026-03-10 14:08:23
Since they took away the "Filled Memory Gem" KI which gave stat bonuses to all trusts... How do these Alter ego points compare to that old KI? I capped out HP but doesn't seem like much changed? Can anyone confirm how much better the points are compared to the older KI?
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2026-03-10 14:14:05
The new system should be at least 10x better
You would've had to screen shot shantotto II before the update to have any measure of trust stats before and after though
By Shichishito 2026-03-10 14:26:37
Not sure where the CHR hate comes from. Some might claim that trusts can't get charmed but mine actively work against me pretty much all of the time.
By Garzyan 2026-03-10 14:29:10
someone mentioned you also get points from way over the capacity roe. ive allrdy done that one. how do i get those extra points then ?
never mind figured it out. talked to majory in rulude garden to gain the thesis
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Asura.Sechs
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By Asura.Sechs 2026-03-10 14:57:19
Since they took away the "Filled Memory Gem" KI which gave stat bonuses to all trusts... How do these Alter ego points compare to that old KI? I capped out HP but doesn't seem like much changed? Can anyone confirm how much better the points are compared to the older KI? That gave +X levels to your trusts. The more trusts the less bonus, the less trusts the higher bonus.
At the very least it was making them 121, which meant... 2 more levels? 25hp per level, +5 stats per level?
I don't know, just throwing a wild guess.
So probably comparing it with this system it would have been with like no more than 5 upgrades to HP and MP and 10 upgrades to base stats, or something like that?
I'm already at capped HP (+250?) and +40ish to VIT, MND and INT.
Also keep in mind that these current caps will eventually be raised in the future.
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Lakshmi.Byrth
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2026-03-10 15:15:05
If you wait 6 months or a year etc you can instacap fastcast or haste or DT or WSD or meva or whatever they eventually figure out trusts actually need.
(subtle blow, please, a full 100%)
But there is a cap so you gotta spend
IMO this is actually the play. I'll probably do HP, INT, MND, AGI, and then hold points until I'm pushing a thousand.
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By Nariont 2026-03-10 15:22:02
stuff like traits I would assume is going to the equipment section, could see them adding generic stats like acc/eva etc later on down the road though, especially if they get some positive feedback on this path being a good one.
By swaggernaught 2026-03-10 15:34:35
Monebreaux HP is a no brainer for sure, but i dont have him lol
Ragnarok.Marquiss
By Ragnarok.Marquiss 2026-03-10 15:38:20
SCH Mythic is going to be so awesome with this update since it's nearly impossible to generate any meaningful enmity nuking with it and the emp body. Trust enmity is an issue on my melee DD, forcing me to /drg for jump.
I'm really looking forward to seeing what stats we get for trust armor, possibly giving us the option to cap DT on them. I'm excited for the future of this system.
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By RadialArcana 2026-03-10 16:34:12
I enjoyed leveling my NPC back in the day, I logged in to do it for 30 mins or an hour every day. They could have added an XP ring that when active gives you points or something if they wanted to cap it and make it last longer.
This way from monthly objectives sucks ***, XI is built around grinding ***. People could have been out leveling in different places, but instead we have this stupid system where you're done in a few hours and nothing else to do with it for the rest of the month now.
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By Asura.Mcdoogle 2026-03-10 16:44:50
If you don’t think there are enough dailies, are you even playing the game right now?
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Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2026-03-10 16:45:18
I dont think anyone wants to grind a thousand hours for trust str+50
Player str+50, ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND HOURS
But not trust.
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By Asura.Vitellius 2026-03-10 16:56:21
Can we upgrade (UC) trust?
Asura.Hya
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By Asura.Hya 2026-03-10 17:00:15
If you don’t think there are enough dailies, are you even playing the game right now? I understand that I am likely in the extreme minority, but I barely ever do any of the daily endgame content anymore. Sortie, Omen, Dynamis, Odyssey, I don't do any of that ***now. Just 10 Limbus runs over the course of a few days and then nothing else to do. So there are certainly people who might want a new daily grind, though it couldn't be me.
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By RadialArcana 2026-03-10 17:38:25
If you don’t think there are enough dailies, are you even playing the game right now?
Not all of us do the fujito slop. I was considering coming back to level trusts up (xi was built on a foundation of grinding stuff in a relaxing way, which is what I want from the game), but it's more crap where they limit how often you can do it and make it take 2 years.
I guess I should be thankful he is saving me £80 a month, he can't even do this right.
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Lakshmi.Buukki
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-03-10 17:43:33
Can we upgrade (UC) trust?
Besides the healers and Sylvie, I can't recall anything unique about any of the UC ones that are worth using them for (besides enhanced CP/Accolades?).
Did we ever figure out what the hell those Unity T Shirts did, or was it only that shitty base stat increase? Just odd how they released stuff like this and it never really took off. Would be nice if they updated the shirts to be like +50 every time you summon.
Asura.Sechs
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By Asura.Sechs 2026-03-10 18:12:51
The thing with the previous system (level+1 x2) is that SUPPOSEDLY it was giving a small bonus to everything, this includes stuff like meva and macc as well.
At least in theory?
So I kinda hope they're giving us a menu for stuff like that in the future.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2026-03-10 22:42:52
Quote: Even if I invest everything into HP and VIT, I still get defeated by opponents that can kill me in one hit, so I don't feel like I'm getting much benefit or convenience... Can we have Cornelia back?
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By paladinepsot 2026-03-11 04:11:28
Oh lord I can see it now. Trusts unlockable with trust points...
Cornelia ........ 500
Shantotto III ... 1000
By Draylo 2026-03-11 06:22:37
Excited to see what they come up with, but basic stats is the most boring thing possible so I won't bother for now. This isn't even for most serious hardcore players, because they mostly have mules and the geo trusts. I hope we get cool stuff like potency of buffs, durations and unique things like weapon skills or added effects.
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By Drayco 2026-03-11 06:49:50
I'd much rather see them fix Apururu and Koru-moru running in non-stop circles around me constantly.
Fenrir.Aeolys
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By Fenrir.Aeolys 2026-03-11 07:53:19
The Trusts I use most often?
Ayame will probably be first.
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-03-11 08:43:19
Ayame is a queen for getting latent weapon trials finished quick, but what else are you using her for?
With the implementation of the new trust upgrade system, which trust do you think will be the most useful. I noticed the base stats were 0/50, so presumably a boost of +50 to each stat?
I think boosting August's VIT, HP, AGI and MND might be my first port of call.
What's going to be your first and why?
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