Let says in a fight you call your NPC out.
1) Everyone can use NPCs.
2) It is consider an "ITEM"
Sure it able to Cures/Dia/Haste
But just it just a "function" anyone can get. As long as they spend time to level their NPC up.
People solo and use "item" like Antidote/Echo Drop/Hi-elixir/Ether/HP-Pots.
NPC item= All in one.
So. Case to point. When someone solo _________-Mob. And used the NPC call out item. Is it still a solo?
Would You Consider This Solo?
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Would you consider this solo?
Only if giving someone a dutch-rutter is considered masturbation.
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Bahamut.Megbite said: Only if giving someone a dutch-rutter is considered masturbation. Haha, nice example. No, not really on the solo. With meds that give lots of HP and/or MP, they're usually rare, ie. Vile Elixir/+1. Also there's no medicines that give Haste or enfeebles like Slow, Dia, etc., unless you count those bad breath necklaces. The NPCs are also meleeing with you, so they're doing a little DoT. Bahamut.Megbite said: Only if giving someone a dutch-rutter is considered masturbation. For the person who is holding the hand/arm >>> no (but very gay-ish actions) For the person who holds himself>>> yes that is masturbation Hades.Stefanos said: Bahamut.Megbite said: Only if giving someone a dutch-rutter is considered masturbation. Haha, nice example. No, not really on the solo. With meds that give lots of HP and/or MP, they're usually rare, ie. Vile Elixir/ 1. Also there's no medicines that give Haste or enfeebles like Slow, Dia, etc., unless you count those bad breath necklaces. The NPCs are also meleeing with you, so they're doing a little DoT. You fail to view the fact that anyone can use it "item". If you view the NPC as a magical item that does all this lovely things. NPC are like Augmented weapons. They can be change to w/e you like. You can give then hand-to-hand to make them miss alot. Just so you can have a extra body to get hit with -gaIII with you. (Super Blink) Just many ways you can use this item. It would technically be "Solo with NPC", or that's how I'd always thought of it. Mostly because my NPC is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.. >_>
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my take on this is that it is soloing... but with an *. high level NPCs are badass. can SC w/ them on fierce attacker or get haste and cure bombed on soothing healer. so in my opinion when i talk about what i've done, i say i "soloed <mob> with my NPC".
My NPC is galkan
His name is Zaldof It's solo. NPC help is fine, after all it is not a "smart" intelligence unlike humans. It is an item, since it fits into your "Inventory". Use of items when soloing is allowed.
Sylph.Hitetsu said: "Solo with NPC" Fairy.Tedwardian said: "soloed <mob> with my NPC". Valefor.Fekye said: Solo'd.... With NPC. Valefor.Fekye said: Solo'd.... With NPC. Asura.Artemicion said: Valefor.Fekye said: Solo'd.... With NPC. Care to elaborate? >_> Unless you have another player there, it technically is a Solo. Some people even count dual boxing as a Solo assuming no-one else was there, personally I count that as a duo, but meh. Hehe, duo with myself? That sounds funny.
I say solo with npc. It's not really completely solo.
Can you ever solo TA? No. Can you cure/protect etc pets or what not? No. Can you use pt onry buffs on other npcs that you can cure? No. But you can do all that with your adventuring fellow or another PC. Does automaton counts as another person too?
This is kinda making me a bit happy inside... Now I know I'm never going to semimmortal said: Does automaton counts as another person too? This is kinda making me a bit happy inside... Now I know I'm never going to be lonely solo with my automaton around :,) Automation/Wyvern/Avatar are all considered NPCs in a way. You have the most control over an avatar. You have limited control over a wyvern. You have almost no control over an automation. You have no control over a NPC fellow. If you consider having a NPC as not being "soloing" then you will have to agree that being a SMN/DRG/lolpup would be, in its definition, not a solo job. Same as BST, since they can call pets. Explain the difference between a NPC and a Jug Pet, or Automation, or Avatar, or Wyvern.
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Asura.Korpg said: Explain the difference between a NPC and a Jug Pet, or Automation, or Avatar, or Wyvern. Wyverns, Avatars, Jug pets and automations are part of the respective jobs. SE build each of the jobs with their 'added npc' in mind and balanced them accordingly so that they compare with other jobs which don't have the added help. NPCs on the other hand give players buffs/debuffs/cures that they wouldn't be able to get through just being on their own. Thus not being reliant solely on the jobs abilities that SE gave you. NPCs also take up a party slot, thus can not be defined as solo. That is the difference.
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No control over an automaton eh?
What do you call deploy, retrieve, and all those manuevers then? Also I already explained the difference between your adventuring fellow and pets/automaton, avatar, and wyvern. You cannot cast on them. At all. You cannot TA them. They aren't effected by AOES you cast. Or AOE items. Adventuring fellows are all those things. Yes mana powder works on them ftw!!! Also to note adventuring fellows have a bigger AI then all of the others except maybe automatoms. They will cure when low enough without any manuevers or ***. They will voke when things get bad. Know when a debuff is on a mob to tell weather or not to cast it themselves. Will inform you of there tp and even hold onto there own if on attacker till you get 100%. As long as there is only one actual player, who does not receive pre-buffs from other players, does not have aggro control from other players and does not receive in fight support from other players... i would consider it "solo"
I would also put a disclaimer if i claimed to solo something, but could not have done it without the help of my NPC. "I soloed *mob name* with my NPC" was still a solo adventure, you didn't dual-box assistance, or have another member come help. You did it alone with your effort. Leveling an NPC might not be hard work but it's still an accomplishment getting one to level 70. Kujata.Argettio said: Wyverns, Avatars, Jug pets and automations are part of the respective jobs. SE build each of the jobs with their 'added npc' in mind and balanced them accordingly so that they compare with other jobs which don't have the added help. NPCs on the other hand give players buffs/debuffs/cures that they wouldn't be able to get through just being on their own. Thus not being reliant solely on the jobs abilities that SE gave you. NPCs also take up a party slot, thus can not be defined as solo. That is the difference. PUPs are basically weak MNKs with NPCs that don't buff them. Thats if you don't consider BLM automations however. Automations still debuff and cure the player, just like a NPC. You can control how fast to give the cures too. if all you consider about NPCs is that every job can have them, then doesn't that put lolpups at an advantage? Kujata.Argettio said: NPCs also take up a party slot, thus can not be defined as solo. That is the difference.
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DRG/PUP/SMN/BST all have their 'pets' as part of the job. When you say you solo on that job, it's understandable that it would include the 'pet'.
NPCs are like having another person there. It's all been said before. Asura.Artemicion said: Valefor.Fekye said: Solo'd.... With NPC. Fairy.Tedwardian said: Sylph.Hitetsu said: "Solo with NPC" Fairy.Tedwardian said: "soloed <mob> with my NPC". Korpg, just drop it. Your opinion is obviously irrelevant to the OP at this point. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Find something better to do with your time.
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Ramuh.Krizz said: DRG/PUP/SMN/BST all have their 'pets' as part of the job. When you say you solo on that job, it's understandable that it would include the 'pet'. NPCs are like having another person there. It's all been said before. Asura.Artemicion said: Valefor.Fekye said: Solo'd.... With NPC. Fairy.Tedwardian said: Sylph.Hitetsu said: "Solo with NPC" Fairy.Tedwardian said: "soloed <mob> with my NPC". Korpg, just drop it. Your opinion is obviously irrelevant to the OP at this point. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Find something better to do with your time. Korpgy is just testy as he is missing his lover...
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Kujata.Argettio said: Korpgy is just testy as he is missing his lover... Ramuh.Krizz said: Kujata.Argettio said: Korpgy is just testy as he is missing his lover... You often hurt the people you love the most. It is a cruel irony of the human condition. If you are by yourself, why would you need a party slot?
Most people who use NPCs do it by themselves... Besides, it doesn't really matter to me, I solo ***without the aid of a NPC. P.S. You guys can go *** yourselves for all I care.
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I am soloing Seriyu later; as I am soloing so I don't need the other party slots so I plan to bring a PLD, BRD, 2 DD and a WHM.
Same logic... Kujata.Argettio said: Ramuh.Krizz said: Kujata.Argettio said: Korpgy is just testy as he is missing his lover... You often hurt the people you love the most. It is a cruel irony of the human condition. I'd say it falls under the "solo with npc" category.
Kujata.Argettio said: I am soloing Seriyu later; as I am soloing so I don't need the other party slots so I plan to bring a PLD, BRD, 2 DD and a WHM. Same logic... Or are the all bots? Thats the question, isn't it? If you are by yourself, you don't need those extra party slots, therefor your argument about a NPC taking up a party slot is irrelevant. Soloing means not having anybody helping you. |
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