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 Asura.Artemicion
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By Asura.Artemicion 2010-02-21 15:24:48  
Also I recall there was some calculating necessary to maintain that 6 hit post WS as it gives a definitive return upon use.
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By Hades.Vecroge 2010-02-21 15:28:04  
Asura.Artemicion said:
Also I recall there was some calculating necessary to maintain that 6 hit post WS as it gives a definitive return upon use.

with Rajas +5
Brutal +1
hachi feet +5

u maintain 6 hit thru WS
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By Odin.Lowblow 2010-02-21 16:04:58  
I personally dont think any job but DRG should be using Askar body for 6hit build.

But then again most sams dont have access to the best setup for 6hit
Raja
brutal
usu feet.

So if they need it, they need it. And still keep theyre haste on feet/hand/leg/head
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By Asura.Artemicion 2010-02-21 16:14:20  
So head, hands, legs, feet, and belt are definitely a do-not-touch as they greatly affect your total haste sum. Leaving main spots for STP in: strap, neck, earrings, body, rings, and back (not many choices there).

I think if accuracy can be capped on simple trash like mobs askar body would make a decent choice to help achieve a 6 hit build, but the nuevo with 10 acc and 4 stp would be the other best thing for when accuracy is a must.

Also Hauby is the golden standard for all situations of course, but it leaves one scrounging for STP everywhere else no?
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By Remora.Lynnminmay 2010-02-21 16:22:27  
Odin.Lowblow said:
I personally dont think any job but DRG should be using Askar body for 6hit build.

But then again most sams dont have access to the best setup for 6hit
Raja
brutal
usu feet.

So if they need it, they need it. And still keep theyre haste on feet/hand/leg/head

Best setup for 6-hit SAM is not usu feet, it's dusk ledelsens+1 paired with usu body. With this gear and other high end pieces you can reach 450+ acc with pizza which covers most needs.
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By Duanyu 2010-02-21 16:27:57  
Hades.Vecroge said:
You SAM's keep tping in askar body....

This coming for a person who tp's in an osode...
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By Hades.Vecroge 2010-02-21 16:31:12  
Duanyu said:
Hades.Vecroge said:
You SAM's keep tping in askar body....

This coming for a person who tp's in an osode...
LOL im tping in an osode?
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By Asura.Artemicion 2010-02-21 16:32:59  
According to what the linkshell community thingy says, yes you are.
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By Ifrit.Duanyu 2010-02-21 16:33:26  
I can repeat the above statement in question form too!
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By Hades.Vecroge 2010-02-21 16:33:57  
Hades.Vecroge said:
Duanyu said:
Hades.Vecroge said:
You SAM's keep tping in askar body....

This coming for a person who tp's in an osode...
LOL im tping in an osode?[/quote

First off i TP in a Nuevo Coselete, if u want SS's people to tell u w/e let me know.
Second off u got that by looking at "current gear" on my profile ur a *** idiot for goin by that cause thats what i wear standing in town.
Thirdly think before u open ur stupid *** mouth.
K? :)
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By Ifrit.Duanyu 2010-02-21 16:35:23  
oh my, my, my, THATS your town gear?
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By Remora.Fyyvoaa 2010-02-21 16:36:42  
Hades.Vecroge said:
Hades.Vecroge said:
Duanyu said:
Hades.Vecroge said:
You SAM's keep tping in askar body....

This coming for a person who tp's in an osode...
LOL im tping in an osode?[/quote

First off i TP in a Nuevo Coselete, if u want SS's people to tell u w/e let me know.
Second off u got that by looking at "current gear" on my profile ur a *** idiot for goin by that cause thats what i wear standing in town.
Thirdly think before u open ur stupid *** mouth.
K? :)[/quote]

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By Hades.Stefanos 2010-02-21 16:37:19  
You can't always go by what it shows there. Take my profile for example. It shows Pluto's with an Ice Grip. Now do I cast my spells in that? Of course not. I'm not trying to stick up for Vecroge or anything, just saying you can't really go by what you're seeing in the current set.

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By Hades.Vecroge 2010-02-21 16:37:38  
Ifrit.Duanyu said:
oh my, my, my, THATS your town gear?

yes i have a macro for gear set - dusk gloves as u will also notice the hachiman gloves
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By Hades.Vecroge 2010-02-21 16:40:19  
Hades.Vecroge said:
Ifrit.Duanyu said:
oh my, my, my, THATS your town gear?

yes i have a macro for gear set - dusk gloves as u will also notice the hachiman gloves

Also if u had read anything ive put in this forum abt tping in nuevo coselete instead of "oh ill try to be cool and make a stupid comment before i use my head" goodjob cool person!
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By Ifrit.Duanyu 2010-02-21 16:41:46  
OMG you tp in dusk gloves...
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By Odin.Lowblow 2010-02-21 16:42:03  
True true, the body is amazing to compelte the 6hit and acc in one.

So the perfect setup while keeping the best possible haste and STP would be...

Turban
Usu body
Dusk+1 hand
Haidate
Dusk+1 feet ?

Assuming raja and brutal is on?

If so thats pretty damn hard to reach for the common sam ; ;
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By Hades.Vecroge 2010-02-21 16:42:28  
Ifrit.Duanyu said:
OMG you tp in dusk gloves...

lol yea called haste ever heard of it?
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By Hades.Vecroge 2010-02-21 16:43:40  
Odin.Lowblow said:
True true, the body is amazing to compelte the 6hit and acc in one.

So the perfect setup while keeping the best possible haste and STP would be...

Turban
Usu body
Dusk 1 hand
Haidate
Dusk 1 feet ?

Assuming raja and brutal is on?

If so thats pretty damn hard to reach for the common sam ; ;

best possible yes
but u can maintain a 6 hit without dusk +1's and usukane
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-02-21 16:44:28  
honestly askar body is one of my favorites for FoV

accuracy is hardly an issue on most things in cape terrigan or weapons in ro'maeve

the attack, DA, and evasion are great for this.

assuming your doing FoV as sam/dnc you already have a natural accuracy bonus trait +10

and spending 10tp to quickstep, or boxstep and desperate flourish a mob (for gravity's evasion -20~) effect will most def put you at or near the acc cap for almost any of the FoV


can't say i do much endgame anymore cause RL has been busy for me with colleges and stuff, FoV and augments are how i spend most of my time, as well as the occasional CoP mission here and there.
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By Asura.Artemicion 2010-02-21 16:44:46  
Odin.Lowblow said:
True true, the body is amazing to compelte the 6hit and acc in one.

So the perfect setup while keeping the best possible haste and STP would be...

Turban
Usu body
Dusk 1 hand
Haidate
Dusk 1 feet ?

Assuming raja and brutal is on?

If so thats pretty damn hard to reach for the common sam ; ;

Aye, alternatives would be:

Nuevo/Askar (for when acc isn't a prob)
NQ dusk
That new add-on leg thing with haste
Fumas
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By Odin.Lowblow 2010-02-21 16:45:15  
Well of course, 6 hit is very easy.
So a sam has a choice i guess, take an ACC or Haste hit for theyre 6hit if they arnt perfect.
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By Hades.Vecroge 2010-02-21 16:46:00  
Hades.Vecroge said:
Odin.Lowblow said:
True true, the body is amazing to compelte the 6hit and acc in one.

So the perfect setup while keeping the best possible haste and STP would be...

Turban
Usu body
Dusk 1 hand
Haidate
Dusk 1 feet ?

Assuming raja and brutal is on?

If so thats pretty damn hard to reach for the common sam ; ;

best possible yes
but u can maintain a 6 hit without dusk 1's and usukane

Rajas only piece in simple 6 hit thats relatively hard to get... everything else can be bought or from add on
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By Asura.Artemicion 2010-02-21 16:46:02  
Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn said:
honestly askar body is one of my favorites for FoV

accuracy is hardly an issue on most things in cape terrigan or weapons in ro'maeve

the attack, DA, and evasion are great for this.

assuming your doing FoV as sam/dnc you already have a natural accuracy bonus trait 10

and spending 10tp to quickstep, or boxstep and desperate flourish a mob (for gravity's evasion -20~) effect will most def put you at or near the acc cap for almost any of the FoV


can't say i do much endgame anymore cause RL has been busy for me with colleges and stuff, FoV and augments are how i spend most of my time, as well as the occasional CoP mission here and there.

I <3 FoV, it's one of the few times you can just go nuts on haste, DA, attack, STR, etc. without having to fret about whiffing every other hit.
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By Hades.Vecroge 2010-02-21 16:49:23  
And also you guys r heading wrong way wrong way with this.
i agree Askar can be better when ACC isnt a factor, what im refering to is SAMs that wear it for EVERYTHING tping 100% in askar.
and before anyone says anything yes its ok if ur eatting ACC food. But in my opinion having acc on ur tp gear and eatting ATK food is going to always be better.
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By Asura.Patriclis 2010-02-21 16:51:34  
Kujata.Argettio said:
Rose
Rajas
Ecp ring (Chiv chain if you are too cheap for PCC)
Brutal

And you can switch the ecp/chiv for Flame/Gorget in WS

0 haste slots used, 6hit.

this is of course assuming you have a rajas rather then a sattva or tamas. So what do you do when you dont get a rajas because you have like 3 jobs that can use tamas and so you picked it instead?

easy go to --> Askar body
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By Asura.Artemicion 2010-02-21 16:53:57  
Pizza takes care of most accuracy issues in typical situations anyways, so it's not a big deal to use Askar unless you're fighting something really nasty. Then IMO go hauby/nuevo.
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By Duanyu 2010-02-21 16:54:34  
Asura.Patriclis said:
this is of course assuming you have a rajas rather then a sattva or tamas. So what do you do when you dont get a rajas because you have like 3 jobs that can use tamas and so you picked it instead?

easy go to --> Askar body

^ this