FFXI LGBT Community, Who Are You?

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 Caitsith.Zahrah
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-02-12 15:00:06  
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Not gay, but my cousin and a few friends are. Some people are more of an insult to the gay community. May as well be on the same tier as "college lesbians", but whatevs...It's open season, right?

You're right, some people are more of an insult to the gay community. Here we have someone claiming to be a supporter of gays while making incredibly heterosexist/biphobic statements.

What? You weren't insulted by attention *** lesbians' conduct at the Sigma Chi house in college?

Not looking for a fight. Just saying...Interpret it however you want.

/shrug

Hardly heterosexist or biphobic. Take humor in life...Jeez.
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By Fenrir.Stiklelf 2012-02-12 15:01:36  
Some people get too worked up by comments.
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-02-12 15:04:35  
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In a world where kids are still being disowned by their parents because they are gay, bullied because they are gay, killed because they are gay... any sort of role model is welcomed. Please don't make blanket conclusions based on your own narrow views.

Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Not gay
Clearly.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-02-12 15:09:15  
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Advocate

In a world where kids are still being disowned by their parents because they are gay, bullied because they are gay, killed because they are gay... any sort of role model is welcomed. Please don't make blanket conclusions based on your own narrow views.

Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Not gay
Clearly.

Okay...I guess I'll just put my love for Elton John and Freddie Mercury back in the closet where it belongs too. Had you actually read, you would have seen that I was saying that there are people who have given more, and deserve more accolades than Whitney Houston.

And really? You've never seen girls who seek attention by feigning lesbianism because it's hot? Really? You must have not been out and about that much.

EDIT: Going grocery shopping. By all! :)
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-02-12 15:11:24  
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Bismarck.Gaspee said: »
Advocate

In a world where kids are still being disowned by their parents because they are gay, bullied because they are gay, killed because they are gay... any sort of role model is welcomed. Please don't make blanket conclusions based on your own narrow views.

Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Not gay
Clearly.

Okay...I guess I'll just put my love for Elton John and Freddie Mercury back in the closet where it belongs too. Had you actually read, you would have seen that I was saying that there are people who have given more, and deserve more accolades than Whitney Houston.

And really? You've never seen girls who seek attention by feigning lesbianism because it's hot? Really? You must have not been out and about that much.

EDIT: Going grocery shopping. By all! :)
Whatever, I had momentary fury. I'm ok now.

You are absolutely right that some other artists like Mercury and John definitely are/were great talents, arguably better than Houston. The difference between them, however, is Houston wasn't gay herself. Generally when straight stars support the LGBT community, it hold more clout. But honestly, we'll take whatever we can get... just not Rick Perry.

Rick Perry is a scary mofo.

EDIT: Cya, lol.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-02-12 15:18:09  
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
What? You weren't insulted by attention *** lesbians' conduct at the Sigma Chi house in college?
Not looking for a fight. Just saying...Interpret it however you want.
/shrug
Hardly heterosexist or biphobic. Take humor in life...Jeez.

It's not really open to interpretation. It is borderline insulting. Just because u don't approve of the conduct of a female in college doesn't reduce them as a lesbian or bisexual. Everyone's coming out and experimentation is different. As a gay man I dont judge lesbians or bisexual conduct, why? because im not lesbian or bisexual.

Also there really isnt a bad role model as far as support goes to the GLBT community. Because they are just doing that, supporting GLBT equality and civil rights.

E.g. U dont need to like Madonna's music or her as a person. But any person who goes out of her way at a concert to say "BLANK PROP 8" that gets a major thumbs up from the gay community.

Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Had you actually read, you would have seen that I was saying that there are people who have given more, and deserve more accolades than Whitney Houston.
The GLBT Civil rights movement isnt a contest as to who is better and who has done more. Every bit helps.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-12 15:20:59  
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Not gay, but my cousin and a few friends are. Some people are more of an insult to the gay community. May as well be on the same tier as "college lesbians", but whatevs...It's open season, right?

You're right, some people are more of an insult to the gay community. Here we have someone claiming to be a supporter of gays while making incredibly heterosexist/biphobic statements.

What? You weren't insulted by attention *** lesbians' conduct at the Sigma Chi house in college?

Not looking for a fight. Just saying...Interpret it however you want.

/shrug

Hardly heterosexist or biphobic. Take humor in life...Jeez.


The heterosexist comment was assuming that because you have gay friends or know a gay person, you automatically know what's best for gay people.

Replace "gay friends" with "black friends" and see where that kind of statement gets you.

The biphobic statement was your brushing off someone else's same-sex sexual activity is somehow invalid is an assertion that sexuality is some rigid construct that one must ascribe to 24/7/365 and any deviation from a concrete label, whether it be identity-searching, questioning, experimentation, or whatever, is something to be disparaged.

Ever thought that maybe those LUGs actually participated in same-sex activity because they, you know, enjoyed it? And just said they were doing it for attention because it somehow "validated" the activity in the grand eye of society?

Either way, it doesn't matter. They have a right to participate in whatever sexual activity with whatever consenting person they want.
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 Bismarck.Cicada
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By Bismarck.Cicada 2012-02-12 15:26:47  

So srs.
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 Bismarck.Gaspee
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-02-12 15:28:12  
narsheee!
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-02-12 15:30:44  
what is that demon or creature sitting atop that woman?
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By Bismarck.Cicada 2012-02-12 15:30:49  
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narsheee!
Shhh! I've taken a break from the obscurity of lurking.. don't let everyone know I'm here D:

/sock in mouf
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-02-12 15:32:51  
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what is that demon or creature sitting atop that woman?
Rick Santorum.
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By Asura.Shayka 2012-02-12 15:33:28  
I think its a raccoon or red fox looking animal.
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By Bismarck.Cicada 2012-02-12 15:35:55  
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what is that demon or creature sitting atop that woman?
an ogre thing? I dunno
http://www.wellcomecollection.org/whats-on/exhibitions/sleeping--dreaming/dream-worlds.aspx?view=%E2%80%98the-nightmare%E2%80%99

Anyway, back to lurking. I just wanted 2.5k posts :x It seems my Oh lawd picture was it XD
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-02-12 15:38:49  
ok ur avatar is hypnotic.... its like i cant stop looking at it...

EDIT: all this drama in the LBGT thread today has forced me to do the unthinkable.... CHICKEN NUGGETS RAWR!
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By Asura.Shayka 2012-02-12 15:53:40  
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ok ur avatar is hypnotic.... its like i cant stop looking at it...

EDIT: all this drama in the LBGT thread today has forced me to do the unthinkable.... CHICKEN NUGGETS RAWR!
-_- I blame you for my sudden urge to run to McDonalds, their nuggets are like crack I swear.
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2012-02-12 16:33:25  
Hi everyone.^^
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-02-12 16:37:53  
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Hi everyone.^^
Hey you :)
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-02-12 16:39:49  


RAWR!!
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By Bahamut.Savannahlynn 2012-02-12 16:41:12  
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chickennugget.jpg

RAWR!!

/jealous
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By Asura.Ina 2012-02-12 16:44:23  
Heya Carrelo and Gaspee

Edit: and Bacon and Sav
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-02-12 16:45:58  
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RAWR!!
Those *** gave you the wrong sauce! BBQ all the way.
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-02-12 16:47:26  
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Those *** gave you the wrong sauce! BBQ all the way.
I love both equally <3
I'm a lovah not a fighta~
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-02-12 16:48:37  
^^ This. I always get bbq and sweet/sour sauce. im pro like that lol <3
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-02-12 16:49:18  
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Heya Carrelo and Gaspee

Edit: and Bacon and Sav

Hi everyone! Lil partay in here, complete with nuggets.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-02-12 16:54:20  
yup i got the 20 piece. plenty to share!! oops wait they're ALL GONE

O.O!!
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 Bismarck.Gaspee
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-02-12 16:58:08  
Cruel.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-02-12 17:04:40  
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
What? You weren't insulted by attention *** lesbians' conduct at the Sigma Chi house in college?
Not looking for a fight. Just saying...Interpret it however you want.
/shrug
Hardly heterosexist or biphobic. Take humor in life...Jeez.

It's not really open to interpretation. It is borderline insulting. Just because u don't approve of the conduct of a female in college doesn't reduce them as a lesbian or bisexual. Everyone's coming out and experimentation is different. As a gay man I dont judge lesbians or bisexual conduct, why? because im not lesbian or bisexual.

You obviously have no idea what I'm talking about when I say "college lesbians". You're not insulted by girls who, after a stint of Power Hour or Kings, take advantage of the fact that they're surrounded by guys and make out to get guys' rocks off? Really? That's healthy for the LGBT community? That's not experimentation. That's attention whoring. That's the kind of advocacy you want to represent your community? Where's the integrity?

I really hope this is just a misunderstanding, or that maybe you haven't experienced this.

Bismarck.Sylow said: »
The heterosexist comment was assuming that because you have gay friends or know a gay person, you automatically know what's best for gay people.

Replace "gay friends" with "black friends" and see where that kind of statement gets you.

Never said that I know best. I know what is insulting to my cousin and friends. Thank you for putting words in my mouth.
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By Asura.Xenophire 2012-02-12 17:09:18  
Shut up, all of you. Jeez...

I know some of you are queens and all, but good lord...
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-02-12 17:11:04  


That convo is so 5 min ago, we've moved on to chicken nuggets. Far more serious business.
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