December Update - DNC

December Stuffs:

Curing Waltz V (DNC Lv.87 Ability Delay: 23 sec.)
Restores target's HP.

Striking Flourish (DNC Lv.89 Ability Delay: 2 min. Effect Duration: 1 min.)
Allows you to deliver a twofold attack. Requires at least one finishing move.

Hi2u Curing Waltz V... too bad it's Delay is much worse than IV... D:

Striking Flourish looks interesting, Delay is big as well :( I'm expecting it to go into Flourishes III and I kinda like Climactic Flourish, especially with Razed Ruins and whatnot. But it still looks interesting, kind of like a forced double attack. I wonder if it'll strike on both weapons, or just one like Climactic Flourish. Personally, I expect it to function just like Climactic, instead of Critical Hits, it's Double Attacks.

I'm happy with the DNC update so far. The delay does suck on Curing Waltz V though :(

It'll probably work exactly like Climactic Flourish, which is to say it'll be about as useful as Climactic Flourish. Waltz V delay can suck a ***.

From BG. Basically, likely forced DA rather than double damage.

Waltzes need to be split into multiple JA categories. The delay on Waltz5 renders it unusable.

Striking Flourish sounds like a waste of a finishing move unless there's more to it than the JA description indicates. It'll probably fall into the Flourish3 category, so at least it (probably) won't interfere with Violent Flourish and Reverse Flourish.

To me SF sounds like a before WS type JA, but who knows since we use onry multi-hit WS's it is pointless lolz

Sounds like something to use with the abyssea relic WS? last i heard it was one shot.

As a DA, it'll only be a 1.0 fTP hit rather than doubling damage. Given that we already have fairly high DA that's even less significant than it sounds.

If this works like climactic flourish, and by twofold they mean double damage, then it would be the first 5 hits from your main hand weapon will do double damage.

Could be a nice boost to WS.

Why can't SE just tell us wtf things mean, I still wanna know what my charis +1 shoes actually do.

・S.フラリッシュ (踊り子Lv89 使用間隔:2分 効果時間:1分)
ダブルアタックが出る状態にする。フィニシングムーブが2つ必要。

From the Japanese website. Basically a guaranteed double attack. Maybe it'll help Rudra's Storm a bit for Dancers, I don't know. What I do know, though, is that Curing Waltz V recast can suck a bag of sacks -_-

this a million times

If they don't split Waltz timers, not only is Waltz 5 useless, probably so are we. :/

Also Striking Flourish sounds like garbage. :x

Ninian's DNC is like a wall of shiny. All it needs is a "special" kind of dance and it'd be perfect!

:o

This ***makes me depressed though. :< /rage

If they do split timers such that we can alternate Waltz IV and V, DNC and WHM will be on about the same level in Abyssea and support DNC will be downright godly outside Abyssea on anything it can melee due to sky-high curing over time from a near-limitless resource (TP). Whether or not that will actually happen... guess we'll know in the next few days. I really hope it does.

what if they made a "waltz II" and put 5 on that one?

That's basically what I'm hoping for, or better yet splitting it odd/even like Byrthnoth mentioned. Either would work.

you all forget the real update : DNC EMO !

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Splitting it odd/even would be really neat. Just -anything- would be nice. .___.

While TPing in them and bewildered daze is up, you have a chance of dealing double critical hit damage.

"In addition to the above, performance-enhancing tweaks will be introduced for a host of existing job abilities"

so it is possible idk

everyone talking like they broke dnc get real. when curing waltz4 can heal 750+ hp. curing waltz 5 is gonna be for those oh crap moments only.

they didn't do anything to brake it just gave us another ja to save us/party in a bad moment.

wut? DNC isn't broken at all right now. It's very nearly the opposite.

no it's just been a rather huge gripe of ours since day 1, we hate how our waltz timers are combined, makes ***like healing waltz less ideal.

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With all the refresh going on now, DNC as a main healer just seems dead as hell now.

Pretty much, along with the fact that Waltz III just doesn't keep up. Being able to alternate IV and V would make it viable again.

I honestly haven't had much experience with DNC in abyssea as I mostly low man most of the nms now (mnk + whm and occ thf, blu, blm) so I cant really say much about how the job is but doesnt feel like im missing out on much.

if anything dnc is only capable of covering it'self in most occasions, divine 2 kinda makes up for it but delays suck regardless~

also lol @ random -1 to everyone in the topic

They could always enhance climactic flourish to force a crit on a non-crit WS.

Then Rudra's Storm might be something to look at.