Embrava Nerf NNI
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Embrava Nerf NNI
No joke, sub-ryunohige DRGs are point for point at best only on par with MNK and BLU, exceeded even; sad state of affairs that. admittedly I didn't account entirely for jump TP bonus gears and ***like that though
Fenrir.Sylow said: » Then don't quote the whole post and put "False." DRG sucks without mythic, deal with it. OAT DRG isn't terrible with good gear sets, I used to be able to hold my own in NNI, but on stuff like Provenance I'd fall behind down with the MNKs and SAMs, sad times. Anything that can do damage semi-competently can hold its own in NNI.
Fenrir.Sylow said: » Anything that can do damage semi-competently can hold its own in NNI. Semi-competence is a pretty high goal to shoot for these days though. Remembering to not run off before buffs are put up on floor 1 is hard enough for some people...
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and I disagree with you. Deal with it. I like DRGs, wyverns are cute. It depends on what DD you reference, its not a war or drk. Theres a few jobs out there classified as a DD that DRG would beat even with relic. I enjoy not having to throw WARs and DRKs at everything. Like I said, didn't notice any change in run speeds or win ratios bringing DRG to Nyzul. So whatever works.
You and I are saying the same thing.
Fenrir.Sylow said: » Anything that can do damage semi-competently can hold its own in NNI. However,  But no, sure, let's ignore the math because Wyverns are cute.
Fenrir.Sylow said: » But no, sure, let's ignore the math because Wyverns are cute.
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Also I fail to see which DD jobs DRG is beating with a relic.
Meh maths..
So which DDs is DRG beating with a relic? I'm sorry, I can't allow "cute" to be included in the final score.
Don't care about maths to find out. lol. I just enjoy the game, dont worry about math. Like I said, whatever works in the events that we do, and DRG seems to have no trouble.
Fenrir.Sylow said: » So which DDs is DRG beating with a relic? I'm sorry, I can't allow "cute" to be included in the final score. SAM and MNK? Shiva.Vosslerr said: » Don't care about maths to find out. lol. I just enjoy the game, dont worry about math. Like I said, whatever works in the events that we do, and DRG seems to have no trouble. That has nothing to do with whether or not DRG is competitive with other DDs. Siren.Ihm said: » Fenrir.Sylow said: » So which DDs is DRG beating with a relic? I'm sorry, I can't allow "cute" to be included in the final score. SAM and MNK? I somehow doubt SAM, but can't say for sure, and grats on sometimes beating the only one-handed job that sometimes gets included in the "DD" listings. I think you worry about being competitive too much, which is fine. Some are like that. Just not the way I play. Cuteness factor wins imo. :)
Shiva.Vosslerr said: » I think you worry about being competitive too much, which is fine. Some are like that. Just not the way I play. Cuteness factor wins imo. :) Taru Pups rejoice everywhere!
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I mostly play DNC and I have a Mjollnir.
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Fenrir.Sylow said: » Siren.Ihm said: » Fenrir.Sylow said: » So which DDs is DRG beating with a relic? I'm sorry, I can't allow "cute" to be included in the final score. SAM and MNK? I somehow doubt SAM, but can't say for sure, and grats on sometimes beating the only one-handed job that sometimes gets included in the "DD" listings. Idk about DRG relic but I don't recall a time I've lost to a relic/emp SAM using my OAT. But hey, idc anyway. I know DRG Relic is ***, I have the mythic /shrug. Yep, I know, I geared my DNC around your guide, (which is awesome btw). Melee WHMs are fun too.
My 96 RNG with an lolOctave club and Annihilator did pretty well.
I think without embrava, KC rangers are a good option.. A little squishy, but no real problem in 1 shotting the mobs with Last Stand.. Now if only I could find an actual group, and not a pickup group filled with DRGs and people wanting to go NIN! D; Never gone with a pickup group so not sure how that would work out. :/
Shouldn't MNK be a lot more competitive on parses when the new embrava is applied outside Salvage? I'm just thinking that the loss of regain affects MNK the least.
Went with my usual group, SCH x2 DRK x4 and cleared it twice with no problems. We used the exact same tactics as before, and still kept using Embrava.
The lamp cooldown and floor jump changes have actually made it easier, averaging 17 floors instead of our usual 19-20. Embrava wasn't nerfed in anything except Neo-Salvage in this last patch.
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Cerberus.Taint said: » BST would probably do way better then anyone would be willing to test. Now you have me wanting to make a BSTx6 NN win video...... A while back I saw a 6man bst party, they got to floor 93 apparently with 19 jumps, the 80 boss was rough apparently, they all had Relic axe's however >> (they seemed to /dnc) Fenrir.Sylow said: » Yeah, relic DRG is worse than DNC Fenrir.Sylow said: » and grats on sometimes beating the only one-handed job that sometimes gets included in the "DD" listings. I'm sorry for bringing this up a day later but I just seen that top quote you made. I assume you mean to say DNC outdoes MNK? lol Shiva.Vosslerr said: » Fenrir.Sylow said: » Yeah, relic DRG is worse than DNC Fenrir.Sylow said: » and grats on sometimes beating the only one-handed job that sometimes gets included in the "DD" listings. I'm sorry for bringing this up a day later but I just seen that top quote you made. I assume you mean to say DNC outdoes MNK? lol Pretty sure he meant what he said, drg is terribad on high level stuff. I said MNK though :/
Not sure if I just misunderstood that, which is possible but I find it hard to believe, that a DNC could beat a MNK unless its being played wrong lol
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