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Gov. Rick Perry indicted on felony charges
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-24 13:57:46
I AM ALL OF THOSE THINGS @_@
So, anyway, King, Ravael is playing a pretty good deflection game for you, but could you fill me in on why media coverage for something like the Missouri shooting is totes biased in favor of the libs yet media coverage of the Occupy movement is completely accurate. How do you reconcile the apparent disparity?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-24 13:58:40
He's none of those things. I've spent enough time with him to know he's not self-obsessed, would give you the shirt off his back, and is humble to a fault. How do you know? Unless you deal with him outside this forum and game, you have no clue as to who he really is towards other people.
But based on the evidence of his demeanor towards others on this website, one can reasonably conclude the above assumption made on him.
Outside of the forums, I'm quite non-confrontational and get along with almost everyone. I also typically smile and nod when someone says something political that I don't agree with. Should I expect anyone in here to believe that? Nope.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-24 14:02:04
I AM ALL OF THOSE THINGS @_@
Seriously guys, I am WAY super humble. You can tell because I totally agree with people who say nice things about me.
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Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2014-08-24 14:02:05
He's none of those things. I've spent enough time with him to know he's not self-obsessed, would give you the shirt off his back, and is humble to a fault. How do you know? Unless you deal with him outside this forum and game, you have no clue as to who he really is towards other people.
But based on the evidence of his demeanor towards others on this website, one can reasonably conclude the above assumption made on him.
Outside of the forums, I'm quite non-confrontational and get along with almost everyone. I also typically smile and nod when someone says something political that I don't agree with. Should I expect anyone in here to believe that? Nope. Why wouldn't we? It's not an outlandish proposition.
@Ravael: He was agreeing with King, however I sense he's being facetious.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-24 14:09:42
He's none of those things. I've spent enough time with him to know he's not self-obsessed, would give you the shirt off his back, and is humble to a fault. How do you know? Unless you deal with him outside this forum and game, you have no clue as to who he really is towards other people.
But based on the evidence of his demeanor towards others on this website, one can reasonably conclude the above assumption made on him.
Outside of the forums, I'm quite non-confrontational and get along with almost everyone. I also typically smile and nod when someone says something political that I don't agree with. Should I expect anyone in here to believe that? Nope. Why wouldn't we? It's not an outlandish proposition.
It's not outlandish, but I don't expect it. I can't sit here and tell you to assume that I'm a very reasonable person when I'm bickering with Zicdeh over stupid crap for hours. I just have to remind myself that I'm dealing with people who may be doing what I'm doing, which is experimenting with certain aspects of my personality that I wouldn't try outside of an anonymous internet forum.
@Ravael: He was agreeing with King, however I sense he's being facetious.
Okay, lol. It's hard to tell without a quote string.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-24 14:16:44
In defense of our antics, bickering over stupid ***is the best way to live life. At least then we aren't lying to the world in pretense about making a difference.
Admit it, you'd all watch CSPAN if congress went at each other for three hours debating a Walrus Tax, and in the end nobody would be disappointed with the result, whatever it may be.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-24 14:17:52
So, anyway, King, Ravael is playing a pretty good deflection game for you, but could you fill me in on why media coverage for something like the Missouri shooting is totes biased in favor of the libs yet media coverage of the Occupy movement is completely accurate. How do you reconcile the apparent disparity? Two different conditions.
You can be biased and accurate at the same time.
The story can be as simple as "The sun is shining" and you can skew it to a liberal standpoint without being inaccurate. For example: "The sun is shining on the perfect utopia of liberalism." or "The sun is shining on Obama" which is very accurate, as the accurate story "The sun is shining" is for everyone.
The weak minded people would infer that the sun is shining only on the perfect utopia of liberalism and/or Obama, and then take their arguments accordingly. Those who understand how to take apart the biases in the reporting to get to the actual facts would see that what is being reported is that the sun is shining.
God man, you claim to be self-aware, and yet, you don't understand a very simple concept such as this? You really need to learn about yourself....
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-24 14:22:18
In defense of our antics, bickering over stupid ***is the best way to live life. At least then we aren't lying to the world in pretense about making a difference.
Pretty much. And even if I think some of you are complete morons, I still have some respect for the fact that at least the people in here have the guts to argue politics and religion. We're all ridiculed and mocked at some point or another, but we come back again and again. That's something at least.
Admit it, you'd all watch CSPAN if congress went at each other for three hours debating a Walrus Tax, and in the end nobody would be disappointed with the result, whatever it may be.
YES. Congress already debates pointless bills, so why not add some humor to it?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-24 15:19:35
Ok, but between the Missouri coverage and the Occupy coverage, each offers a competing bias. The former, as you asserted it, is pro-liberal while the latter is slanted in the opposite direction. What makes one representation more accurate than the other?
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-24 15:23:45
Ok, but between the Missouri coverage and the Occupy coverage, each offers a competing bias. The former, as you asserted it, is pro-liberal while the latter is slanted in the opposite direction. What makes one representation more accurate than the other?
Because only one or the other confirms someone's personal bias.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-24 17:02:52
If this walrus tax is code for fat people I'm all for it.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-24 17:20:50
If this walrus tax is code for fat people I'm all for it. No, that's the "Elephant in the Room" tax.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-24 17:32:32
Ok, but between the Missouri coverage and the Occupy coverage, each offers a competing bias. The former, as you asserted it, is pro-liberal while the latter is slanted in the opposite direction. What makes one representation more accurate than the other? Why are you trying so hard to put words in my mouth?
Since when have I expressed any thought that one is different from the other?
I have never argued against the facts of either case. One is a reporting of a death of a young man by accident, another is a protest against businesses. The root of the reporting is such.
Both are greatly sensationalized to fit the needs of the media for advertising revenue.
There is no accuracy issues to compare, as long as one is able to determine what is fact and what is sensationalism. You apparently cannot determine the difference, due to your lack of insight and awareness.
I blame your closed mindedness.
By Enuyasha 2014-08-24 17:44:38
Ok, but between the Missouri coverage and the Occupy coverage, each offers a competing bias. The former, as you asserted it, is pro-liberal while the latter is slanted in the opposite direction. What makes one representation more accurate than the other? Why are you trying so hard to put words in my mouth?
Since when have I expressed any thought that one is different from the other?
I have never argued against the facts of either case. One is a reporting of a death of a young man by accident, another is a protest against businesses. The root of the reporting is such.
Both are greatly sensationalized to fit the needs of the media for advertising revenue.
There is no accuracy issues to compare, as long as one is able to determine what is fact and what is sensationalism. You apparently cannot determine the difference, due to your lack of insight and awareness.
I blame your closed mindedness.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-24 17:45:58
Jetackuu, I choose you!
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-08-24 17:46:40
Beyonce really was the person carrying that group...The other two just sounded like her with varying levels of voice modification :(
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
destiny's child > beyonce!!!!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-24 18:24:11
Yes, yes you are.
Glad you figured it out on your own.
By Enuyasha 2014-08-24 18:40:08
Yes, yes you are.
Glad you figured it out on your own.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2014-08-24 18:54:50
Him asking you to explain it != him asking you to explain it for him
You guys tend to make it sound like Conservative influenced-media's ***doesn't stink, or that Liberal influenced-media is significantly worse. That lack of perspective balance can make people wonder whether you have the critical process to differentiate bias, hence the question.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-24 19:23:06
You guys tend to make it sound like Conservative influenced-media's ***doesn't stink, or that Liberal influenced-media is significantly worse. That lack of perspective balance can make people wonder whether you have the critical process to differentiate bias, hence the question. Again, I didn't say that. Or even referred to that.
Media =/= liberal media alone. Even though there are more liberal media out there than conservative. But they are all after the same thing: revenue from idiots.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2014-08-24 19:34:22
I know you didn't say that. I didn't say you did - but perhaps I shouldn't have used "you" in the second half of that paragraph. I meant it in a general sense, but it can be misconstrued as specific. If that's how you read it, I apologize; I didn't mean for it to read in that way.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-24 19:34:39
Him asking you to explain it != him asking you to explain it for him
You guys tend to make it sound like Conservative influenced-media's ***doesn't stink, or that Liberal influenced-media is significantly worse. That lack of perspective balance can make people wonder whether you have the critical process to differentiate bias, hence the question.
Bias is everywhere. King made a good point when he said that you can be 100% accurate and still biased, which is part of why anyone who thinks that they're not biased because they base their opinion off of fact is absolutely wrong. As far as the media is concerned, I trust pretty much any of them as far as I can throw them because they're obligated to present everything in the way that makes them the most money.
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Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2014-08-24 19:39:36
Him asking you to explain it != him asking you to explain it for him
You guys tend to make it sound like Conservative influenced-media's ***doesn't stink, or that Liberal influenced-media is significantly worse. That lack of perspective balance can make people wonder whether you have the critical process to differentiate bias, hence the question.
Bias is everywhere. King made a good point when he said that you can be 100% accurate and still biased, which is part of why anyone who thinks that they're not biased because they base their opinion off of fact is absolutely wrong. As far as the media is concerned, I trust pretty much any of them as far as I can throw them because they're obligated to present everything in the way that makes them the most money. Or that serves the interest of their publisher/publisher's boss/boss' boss, etc. Never forget that caveat. It's especially crucial to remember that with how umbrella corporations work.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-24 19:52:03
Him asking you to explain it != him asking you to explain it for him
You guys tend to make it sound like Conservative influenced-media's ***doesn't stink, or that Liberal influenced-media is significantly worse. That lack of perspective balance can make people wonder whether you have the critical process to differentiate bias, hence the question.
Bias is everywhere. King made a good point when he said that you can be 100% accurate and still biased, which is part of why anyone who thinks that they're not biased because they base their opinion off of fact is absolutely wrong. As far as the media is concerned, I trust pretty much any of them as far as I can throw them because they're obligated to present everything in the way that makes them the most money. Or that serves the interest of their publisher/publisher's boss/boss' boss, etc. Never forget that caveat. It's especially crucial to remember that with how umbrella corporations work. obligatory:
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-24 19:53:57
Him asking you to explain it != him asking you to explain it for him
You guys tend to make it sound like Conservative influenced-media's ***doesn't stink, or that Liberal influenced-media is significantly worse. That lack of perspective balance can make people wonder whether you have the critical process to differentiate bias, hence the question.
Bias is everywhere. King made a good point when he said that you can be 100% accurate and still biased, which is part of why anyone who thinks that they're not biased because they base their opinion off of fact is absolutely wrong. As far as the media is concerned, I trust pretty much any of them as far as I can throw them because they're obligated to present everything in the way that makes them the most money.
Going to have to disagree with just about every part of this.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-24 19:58:45
Groovy. So, are you going to explain why or what?
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-24 20:04:14
Groovy. So, are you going to explain why or what?
They're both opinions, and the concept of thinking it's possible to be unbiased is self explanatory, so no.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2014-08-24 20:06:43
He said it's impossible to be unbiased. I see nothing wrong with what he said.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-24 20:59:58
Why are you trying so hard to put words in my mouth?
Since when have I expressed any thought that one is different from the other?
I have never argued against the facts of either case. One is a reporting of a death of a young man by accident, another is a protest against businesses. The root of the reporting is such.
Both are greatly sensationalized to fit the needs of the media for advertising revenue.
There is no accuracy issues to compare, as long as one is able to determine what is fact and what is sensationalism. You apparently cannot determine the difference, due to your lack of insight and awareness.
I blame your closed mindedness. So now you're going to deny any assertion that the media is liberally biased? That's... convenient.
Ah well, I guess we agree. Nothing left to do here!
Grand Jury indicts Rick Perry
Quote: (CNN) -- A grand jury has indicted Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a potential 2016 presidential candidate, saying he abused his power by trying to pressure a district attorney to resign.
The two felony counts against Perry, a Republican, stem from his threat to veto funding for a statewide public integrity unit run by Travis County District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg unless she stepped down, the special prosecutor in the case, Michael McCrum, said.
Perry attorney David L. Botsford called the indictment a "political abuse of the court system." He said the action "violated the separation of powers" and "sets a dangerous precedent by allowing a grand jury to punish the exercise of a lawful and constitutional authority afforded to the Texas governor."
CNN affiliate KVUE reported that Perry will have to report to the Travis County Jail in the capital of Austin to be booked, fingerprinted and have his photo made for a mugshot.
Perry can continue to serve as governor while under indictment, KVUE reported. His attorneys could seek to have the charges thrown out, a motion that would delay the case, at the very least.
The grand jury in Travis County indicted the governor on charges of coercion of a public servant and abuse of his official capacity.
I actually didn't believe the headline when I first saw it, but its on every website, even the beloved Fox News. So this is real, its not some doomed publicity stunt *looking at you and your little lawsuit Boehner*
The failed Presidential candidate and pathetic governor of Texas is facing two felony counts of abusing power and coercion. He is going to be arrested, booked, fingerprinted, and a mugshot taken. Can't wait to see that.
Apparently he thought he could use his power to pressure an attorney to resign. I'm not surprised that he would attempt something like that due to his huge ego and lack of intellect, and living in Illinois, used to seeing governors go to jail. He is facing 99 years if convicted.
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