Best Ways To Get Gil In 2015?

The question was "What is the best way to make gil in 2015?"

Not.. "Hey, I have no gear and am starting from scratch. What is the best way for me to get gear?". This is not a post about obtaining gear.. its about gil. Most gear is not bought with gil in the first place.

The guy is working on a relic and a mythic and wants to speed that up. Mercing is not stupid or irrelevant in this case.

This might be the best way if he really is trying to speed it up because the other routes are too slow compare to this route.

merc'ing is a great way to make gil if you fast about it and you have good luck when it comes to selling bcnm drops cause even on vd that drop rate is ***

This is true but he could always start with selling maybe Delve Wins, i mean i don't know how many folks would still be missing Delve 1 wins but if he has the mules to 4 or 5 box like one poster said he could give it a shot and sell it for a reasonable price not to mention the gears that drops in delve.

One thing i would do though if it was me is after getting my relics and mythic done i'll do some research and start investing some Gil into a craft that could bring you some kind of profit without breaking a sweat.

lol

Ask any actual goldsmith. Goldsmithing is the most profitable craft.. but its rare that you make any profit at all. Most of the time you lose money.

The only craft that is a guaranteed money maker is Cooking and its slow as hell. Crafting is only something to do when you literally have nothing left in the game to work on.

I'd like to know why you think it's the most profitable when you lose money all the time.

Well i'm sorry to say this but them Goldsmithers sucks then because i don't have that problem at all idk if it's because i'm lucky or what but if i do lose Gil it will probably be 1 mill max but usually less then a mill because you get a good amount of gil back from npcing the NQ stones.

I make my Gil from Avatar Rings and that is all i have been doing ever since i got Goldsmithing up there so if you know alot of Goldsmithers that are loosing money let me just say that they are doing it wrong then, they not being smart or patient on their decision making.

I'm from carby and there are a ***load of Goldsmither's and i am going to say that i think i'm one of the best compare to all them when it comes to making profit from Avatar rings. As of now i have a good amount of Gil on me with 123 mill worth of Avatar rings in my bazaar and that's about 21 rings and i'm down to about 10 so honestly i call that not breaking a sweat because not only am i patient on letting what i make sell on it owns but i can go and actually enjoy the game on doing some kind of event or collecting gears instead of Farming hardcore for couple of hours.

Like i said to the poster above yours you only lose Gil if your doing something wrong especially if your losing a lot of Gil.

I should have added the caveat "When it is profitable" it is the most profitable craft.

And to Yellowman, I'm not going to bother reading your posts because they are completely incoherent stream-of-consciousness ramblings. But know this..

This is not 2007 anymore. Crafting in general is a crapshoot and is not a reliable way to make gil. Back in the day you could do something like Bonecraft and make tons of money. Materials were extremely cheap and HQ gear was 10000x the cost of making the item.

That just isn't the case anymore.

But how is it Rambling when i am stating facts? I can understand maybe back then yea Goldsmithers would loose a ton of Gil but that ain't the case ever since the Avatar rings has been introduced to the game.

In this game Luck, how your strategy goes and how well or good you are in the crafting field plays a huge role and only way i can see a GS loosing Gil from Avatar rings is because they are doing something or they strategy or ways using the synergy Furnace is all wrong even though yea depending on the server and Mat cost could also play a role in it too.

If proof is what's needed i could jump to your server just to sell couple of HQ Avatar rings with no problem just to show you. Why knock a crafting out just because some of the GS you know are loosing Gil more often then making profit?

tried plugging this into google translate. even it doesnt know what you are saying. I think you might be trying to say something about me making a mistake on one word when you dont even write something that is understandable by any 'normal' person.

try harder.

no need for me to try when you fail so hard to begin with

LOL was bound to happen soon.

But to Reichleiu i just check your server if your still in Asura, and i see why a couple of GS would be loosing more Gil then gaining.
Mats over at Asura are too expansive comparing the profit one would be getting from an HQ ring.

I would still Blame the crafters for that for even agreeing to buy expansive mats it's their fault that's why i said patient is one of the key one have to remember in some cases crafters controls the prices on the mats as long as they keep buying it but if all crafters start letting them mats pile up you will see the sellers will eventually start lowering the prices.

Materials are so expensive because nobody is going out to get those very materials...

Well i guess it all depends on the server because on sylph there's actual players going out there way to get and sell them Materials.

People assume we Goldsmithers can just sh@£ gil. Assume you are looking at the avatar rings, and you buy your materials...
Ifritite = 40k each or 4 mil/stack
Assuming you HQ3 four Ifritears
Rhodium Ore = 30k each = 120k per ingot / 240k per ring
3k per stack of crystals
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Currently, you are at 5 million gil+ in making four rings.
Then you have to deal with the general randomness of synergy to attempt an HQ. The majority of crafters I'm friends with claim an average HQ rate of 1 HQ per 10-12 attempts.

So that is 10-15 mil in costs up front, for a chance at 13 million gil (current Bismark price), and the chance at selling the remaining NQ rings, and then NPCing the NQ-HQ2 gems.

That, or I am just doing this ring making process wrong.

Could be your server or maybe you could be doing it wrong, i mean i really don't see my Gil deplate that much at all after buying Materials.

On my server ifritites are at 20k a piece and 4mill for a stack which is insane if you ask me but last recent one that sold was at 2.5mill which i say would be reasonable.
And damn HQ rate of 1 per 10-12 attempts that i don't understand as to my success rate has been much better then that.

for example one of my most recent activities was that i bought 3 stacks of shivitites for 400k a stack which would be 1.2mill.
From those 3 stacks i yielded 8 shivatears, So now the rings a stack of Rhodium ingot on my server are at 1.2mill and singles at 80~90k so lets say for 8 rings that's 1,560,000 Gil plus the 1.2 mill from the 3 stacks of shivitites so that's 2.7 mill and some change about 60k change.

A stack of Wind cluster are at 60k and 2 stacks would be close to enough so that's another 120k. My success rate when i was done with the synergy was 3/8 on HQ shiva ring which price on my server went back up to 9 mill each so that's 27 mill from spending about 2.8 mill that was my recent result.

I could go on with so much of my success results like when i went 5/7 on HQing Fenrir ring or 2/2 on Ifrit rings or 2/4 on Ramuh Rings idk if i'm just lucky and i'm not saying that i never had bad results because it been times i went 0/4 or 0/6 at some points but i'm just saying i have more success results then failing results.

I'm calling ***.

I find this to be true coming from a goldsmither. You lose gil because its synergy based and the HQ is really random. Smooth synergy is almost non-existent even when you get perfect alignment.

I gave people the offer of synergizing the rings themselves. They quit after realizing how horrible the rate is and how much of a gil sink it is. Goldsmithers also aren't going to sit there and synth a stack of avatar stones for free.

I would like to see your max AH history and any pictures that support your results.

Roughly 300-600k a day, just on gardens. Groves and veins are your best money makers, but it's all still random. At higher ranks you have higher chances of getting logs and ores that npc for over 7k.

You do save cuttings for furrows, chances of getting alex, but low, but you also get other good stuff.

Also, invest some login PTS on an alliance shirts +1 to increase your profits every so slightly.

That's coupled to all the other advice, though. Mules are a secondary source of income. They only net ~ 4-8M a week, 60M a month, with login stuff and HP bayld considered.

On your main, during that time, if you keep up with your Dyna, Salvage, and, if you have a group, VW, Delve and Skirmish, you can easy break 150+M during that month. Again, it's a matter of keeping on top of it.

The grind always gets tiring though.

Doesn't that require your mule to have synergy unlocked? If so, that's a major pain in the *** to unlock 15 synergy quests...

Legitimately and the use of 3-4 bots do not go into the same concept.

It is better than scamming people using the single byne/100-byne bazaar trick, though.

Actually, all you have to do now is talk to the Synergy Engineer for the KI. No need to do the actual quest.

Maybe I suggest short selling and penny stocks !

That's good to know.

1-10 for a hq dam do i feel good about my 1/3 avg and i thought that was bad

Honestly i never took any pictures or notes of my results really i only have 1 friend that is also a Goldsmither he could vouch how lucky of a son of a *** i am when it comes to HQing using the synergy.

What i will do is take some pictures and notes of todays results since i have about 2 or 3 stacks of shivitites i have been holding on to.

best way to make gil? do stuff other people don't