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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-05-01 16:57:55  
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Can't edit and it posted wrong. Need to add there is no militant right now. There are no right wing activists walking into peaceful liberal protests and beating the protesters over the head with a baseball bats and pipes.
Oh yeah?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-05-01 18:16:13  
But actually Saevel the peaceful lefty protests are in greater danger from left wing extremists than from right wing extremists.

The anarchists have this habit of using otherwise peaceful protests to advance their own agenda. Mind you I have no idea of what modern anarchists have as an agenda but it seems to involve a lot of broken glass. Perhaps inciting riots too.

They get innocent people hurt and gassed. I don't mind if the anarchists get hurt and gassed, I think they even like the idea.

As far as the antifacs they seem to be clones of the violent wing of SHARP except with hair.

I did like how the Berkley PD handled the right wing extremists vs. left wing extremists thing. Even posted about it.
 
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-05-01 22:22:08  
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Mind you I have no idea of what modern anarchists have as an agenda

Then you shouldn't wade into the discussion.

Their agenda is pretty much to start a civil war and usher in a new government because voting didn't give them the one they deserved. Not shitting you, they took their university professor indoctrination teachings about social revolution quite literally.

And your rebuttal is hilarious ... two random individuals as "militant right" vs ... Antifa. I'd expect you to show case some biker gangs or something.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-05-01 22:34:22  
To take a cue from Chanti

Militant Left

Liberal Muslim

Pro-Obama Militant Liberal


Plenty more where those came from.
 
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-05-02 02:55:18  
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Can't edit and it posted wrong. Need to add there is no militant right now. There are no right wing activists walking into peaceful liberal protests and beating the protesters over the head with a baseball bats and pipes.
Oh yeah?
Shhh, Chanti, you'll only break poor Saevel's fragile right-wing tRumpThug mind by exposing him to the truth and facts.

When your own side starts to take you seriously, maybe you can begin to lay claim to "truth" and "facts". In the meantime, go read more Young Turks articles about Cliven Bundy, because he's clearly relevant today with how often you mention him.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-02 06:06:54  
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But actually Saevel the peaceful lefty protests are in greater danger from left wing extremists than from right wing extremists.
Right, because they get violent at the other protesters for not protesting their exact cause.

Women's March on Jan. 21st says hi.

Hell, the so-called "Resistance" are attacking each other more than they are attacking Trump. It doesn't help when there's no unified leader in the liberal/democrat party to organize such violence. It also doesn't help when the most popular liberal/democrat refuses to identify himself as a democrat (he's ok with socialist though, which is the direction the liberals want).
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By Nausi 2017-05-02 06:48:24  
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Can't edit and it posted wrong. Need to add there is no militant right now. There are no right wing activists walking into peaceful liberal protests and beating the protesters over the head with a baseball bats and pipes.
Oh yeah?
Hey I'm just pointing out that there is no established connection to any right wing militia or group made in your article. Not that I doubt he voted trump, but let be real here. This is a trump supporter who happens to also be violent.
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By Nausi 2017-05-02 06:50:49  
There's an organized group of communists called "antifs" that show up to violently protest all things right.
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By Nausi 2017-05-02 06:51:54  
Antifa* (*** phone)
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-05-02 07:10:30  
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Hell, the so-called "Resistance" are attacking each other more than they are attacking Trump. It doesn't help when there's no unified leader in the liberal/democrat party to organize such violence. It also doesn't help when the most popular liberal/democrat refuses to identify himself as a democrat (he's ok with socialist though, which is the direction the liberals want).

It's because they are anarchists who don't believe in structure or "labels". They are loud and violent but when actually confronted with force they do the same thing all bullies do, run away and cower. Anytime someone tries to have a pro-Trump or pro-Conservative protest, they show up with bats and weapons and try to beat scale their opposition into shutting down the protest. Their goal is to silence and oppress conservatives.

They just *** it up left and right cause none of em has any leadership skills, eventually they'll figure it out and we'll have ourselves a nice little group of home grown terrorists revolutionaries.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-05-02 09:25:24  
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There's an organized group of communists called "antifs" that show up to violently protest all things right.
To the best of my knowledge, there is little overlap between communists, antifas, and black block anarchists.

Indeed, ever since the FBI figured that over 50% of the members of the American communist party were its own double agents and pulled them all out, the party has hardly existed.

There are some antifas who aren't violent, but the violent ones make the news. Mostly the antifas cause trouble aimed at the right.

The black block anarchists cause trouble at left wing demonstrations.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-05-02 09:29:57  
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Antifa* (*** phone)

we knew what you meant....

but and however, chanti's two wingnuts aside, there are at least seven groups of right wing terrorists the fbi keeps tabs on since 9/11 like the aryan nation and the WCOTC etc. check it out on the fbi website.

are they "walking into peaceful liberal protests and beating the protesters over the head with a baseball bats and pipes."

I don't know and quite frankly I don't care. That's not how you define militarism.

There is a militant right. They're ***. I've met with several of the personally and if your ignorance of them somehow made them obsolete I would fully support pretending they don't exist.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-02 09:44:23  
There is a militant right, just as there is a militant left.

Personally, I want to see a huge *** Militant Thunderdome fight. Two groups enter, one group leaves.

/starts building a cage, loads it with weapons, and gets pay-per-view rights.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-05-02 10:03:44  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
There is a militant right, just as there is a militant left.

Personally, I want to see a huge *** Militant Thunderdome fight. Two groups enter, one group leaves.

/starts building a cage, loads it with weapons, and gets pay-per-view rights.

The "militant right" keeps to themselves because if they were to do something there would be a rapid response from liberal media. That same media condones and enables the militant left to do whatever they want.

Berkeley is a perfect example, the conservatives were protesting and originally the Police told them not to bring any weapons because the Police would provide security. Previously Antifa had threatened that they would attack anyone who held conservative protests. So the conservatives went out and peacefully protested, with the police standing by providing security. Antifa arrives with baseball bats, M80 firecrackers and various other homemade weapons. Police immediately leave the area and go sit in their locked cars ignoring everyone. Antifi starts throwing those M80's at people, hitting conservative protesters and then does something really stupid, throws a smoke bomb into the conservatives but with the wind blowing towards themselves. The conservatives charge them barehanded and run them off. The Police are still in their cars in plain view. Turns out the Chief of Police is super liberal and had gave orders that the police where not to interfere.

But hey those leftists are "fighting the good fight" and are just misguided, we shouldn't judge the entire left wing demographic for turning a blind eye and enabling their radicals.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-02 10:12:09  
#4Chanti

A good article about Politics, Economics, Migration, and Quality of Life, as long as you get rid of the fluff and snark
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By fonewear 2017-05-02 10:34:51  
What about the militant Atheist at a online forum somewhere near you !
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-05-02 10:39:44  
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The "militant right" keeps to themselves

yeah...no they don't.

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By fonewear 2017-05-02 10:40:41  
You can spot an Atheism in real life by the foul stench unwashed clothing...probably hangs out in Barnes and Nobles putting Bibles in the Fiction section....I would consider them armed and very stupid !
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By fonewear 2017-05-02 10:45:30  
Also they tend to be intolerant of anyone except other Atheists and socially awkward nerds...sounds like FFXIAH !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-02 10:45:39  
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The "militant right" keeps to themselves

yeah...no they don't.

I think he means "generally"

Although, that also applies to the militant left too.

Sure, you will have exceptions to the rule, but that's true on everything.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-05-02 10:58:33  
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I think he means "generally"

well then he is generally wrong... or his "perspective was too narrow" if you want to break it to him easier.

look.. you can't make a statement like "there is no militant right" , without getting called on it, just because they haven't been in the news for a couple months.

you got the bundy ranch numbskulls, militas, kkk, the world is chock full of idiots.

Personally I like that groups like the KKK gets sued out of existance every time they pop up and try to organize and cetainly I would like to see it applied to antifas.

We (republicans) don't really have a group (that I know of) of idealistic young lawyers like the Southern Poverty Law Center to go chase those *** around in circles.

we should though... it would be way easier than trying to get insurance on the thunderdome idea
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-05-02 11:02:00  
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you got the bundy ranch numbskulls, militas, kkk, the world is chock full of idiots.

I think CJ got ahold of Nik's password again.
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By fonewear 2017-05-02 11:11:43  
Candlejack is busy working on impeaching Trump...any second now !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-02 11:11:48  
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the world is chock full of idiots.
And that's when the Thunderdome solution comes to play.

We can have a Round Robin or even a Battle Royale with cheese to speed things up.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-05-02 11:19:50  
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you got the bundy ranch numbskulls, militas, kkk, the world is chock full of idiots.

I think CJ got ahold of Nik's password again.

/checks

nope... but let's hope that you can take some pleasure in being wrong. or find some solace in these words.

Yes there are a bunch of *** on the left...but let's not pretend we have any shortages over here on our side, it's just... incognizant.

or willfully oblivious....

hang on let me go check my thesaurus
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-05-02 11:27:05  
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the world is chock full of idiots.
And that's when the Thunderdome solution comes to play.

We can have a Round Robin or even a Battle Royale with cheese to speed things up.

I'm telling you we'll never get it insured....

there was a group that tried (and may still be trying) to do a UFC~like event with weapons...

found it! Unified Weapons Master (UWM)we'll never get it insurred!!!

different groups have been trying since the UFC launched but as soon as you give these *** a stick nobody will cover it because of three words "wrongful death lawsuit"
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-05-02 11:27:13  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
you got the bundy ranch numbskulls, militas, kkk, the world is chock full of idiots.

I think CJ got ahold of Nik's password again.

/checks

nope... but let's hope that you can take some pleasure in being wrong. or find some solace in these words.

Yes there are a bunch of *** on the left...but let's not pretend we have any shortages over here on our side, it's just... incognizant.

or willfully oblivious....

hang on let me go check my thesaurus

Eh, I was making a joke. I'm not blind to the militant right, and I'd be going the "false equivalence" argument route but... yeah, I can't be bothered to care today.

Brace yourselves for half-hearted cheap shots and jokes, because that's what I'm in the mood for.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-05-02 11:29:45  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Brace yourselves for half-hearted cheap shots and jokes, because that's what I'm in the mood for.
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