Ukon Vs Maschu +2

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Ukon vs Maschu +2
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-08-10 01:24:45  
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
Entourage said:
yea this is true nightfyre... but then lolSerj continued spamming nonsense

are you referring to actualserj or lolserj

they are in fact two separate people you know, the former of which i myself trust much more often than not to know what he's doing

/flattered
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By Entourage 2011-08-10 01:25:41  
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Not my fault you can't comprehend basic english/logic.

you trolling? this is the only reason I can think of for you continuing to point out something that doesn't matter at all.
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-08-10 01:26:00  
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Bahamut.Serj.... this statement matters? lol

Serj != Lolserj

They both post on here frequently and used to be on the same server so it matters. ; ;
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By Entourage 2011-08-10 01:27:10  
it was more of an adjective and don't frequent the forums to know that there's actually a "lolserj"... context would lead a normal person to understand I was talking about Bahamut.Serj. Still doesn't matter
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-10 01:27:26  
Fenrir.Niniann said:
Entourage said:
Bahamut.Serj.... this statement matters? lol

Serj != Lolserj

They both post on here frequently and used to be on the same server so it matters. ; ;

Know what really matters!?

Chocobos.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-10 01:28:28  
on an unrelated-ish note, just put together ukonvasara war/sam with five-hit-ish gear, and without tactical mantle, it's essentially impossible to pull off currently, though even if you could, you'd be sacrificing 3% critical hit rate, 2% da and at least 10 acc/atk basically, not even accounting tactical mantle, which is a pretty big cut compared to masamune/amanomurakumo five-hit currently, that's for sure

i personally would love to five-hit the weapon, honestly, since six-hit feels so 2006 to me, but even outside (of course), ukonvasara six-hit still manages to stomp maschu five-hit for the most part

no wait, actually, scratch being able to five-hit ukonvasara; make kaiten critical and give samurai access to freezebite and shadow of death, then we'll call it even
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-08-10 01:30:20  
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Know what really matters!?

Chocobos.

Damn straight. I'm feeding my two chicks right now, they're so cute. :<
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By Entourage 2011-08-10 01:34:15  
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
on an unrelated-ish note, just put together ukonvasara war/sam with five-hit-ish gear, and without tactical mantle, it's essentially impossible to pull off currently, though even if you could, you'd be sacrificing 3% critical hit rate, 2% da and at least 10 acc/atk basically, not even accounting tactical mantle, which is a pretty big cut compared to masamune/amanomurakumo five-hit currently, that's for sure

i personally would love to five-hit the weapon, honestly, since six-hit feels so 2006 to me, but even outside (of course), ukonvasara six-hit still manages to stomp maschu five-hit for the most part

no wait, actually, scratch being able to five-hit ukonvasara; make kaiten critical and give samurai access to freezebite and shadow of death, then we'll call it even

think 5-hit Ukon drops to 25% haste as well. <3 Samurai
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-10 01:35:33  
you're right, forgot to mention that (blitz ring out for hoard ring, no vbelt/ninurta's over goading, etc)
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2011-08-10 01:36:24  
XI has been calling to me lately. And by calling, I mean brutally slamming my face into a sign with "PLAY ME NOW!" in bold letters. :<

I lasted like three months. ._.
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By Asura.Dajociont 2011-08-10 01:38:48  
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:

no wait, actually, scratch being able to five-hit ukonvasara; make kaiten critical and give samurai access to freezebite and shadow of death, then we'll call it even

hey

NO
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-10 01:40:49  
hey yes ok? ok
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-08-10 01:42:16  
SE needs to make the multi-hit relic ws actually multi-hit.... How in the *** Mercy Stroke, Onslaught, and Blade: w/e are single hit is *** baffling.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-08-10 01:42:54  
Ragnarok.Raenil said:
XI has been calling to me lately. And by calling, I mean brutally slamming my face into a sign with "PLAY ME NOW!" in bold letters. :<

I lasted like three months. ._.

Just realized this guy is Linear lol.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2011-08-10 01:45:20  
They're clearly practice swings/stabs. The enemy just THINKS they're being maimed suffering minor injuries.

Cause y'know. Most Relic WSs are nothing to write home about. Talking to you, Gierskogul. -.-
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2011-08-10 01:46:04  
Bahamut.Serj said:
Ragnarok.Raenil said:
XI has been calling to me lately. And by calling, I mean brutally slamming my face into a sign with "PLAY ME NOW!" in bold letters. :<

I lasted like three months. ._.
Just realized this guy is Linear lol.
</3

You'd have known if you frequented the MSPaint threads! D:<

Or the whole Raenil is Linear backwards...
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-10 01:47:42  
i think it's awesome that all relic weapon skills are garbage, because if they never end up adjusting their modifiers and only continue to add +wsdmg, kaiten's going to shine just that much further :D
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By Hades.Medjai 2011-08-10 01:49:38  
Bahamut.Serj said:
SE needs to make the multi-hit relic ws actually multi-hit.... How in the *** Mercy Stroke, Onslaught, and Blade: w/e are single hit is *** baffling.
well just going by name Mercy Stroke could mean just 1 attack lol idk just trying to find a reason for the name o.o
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-08-10 01:56:30  
Hades.Medjai said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
SE needs to make the multi-hit relic ws actually multi-hit.... How in the *** Mercy Stroke, Onslaught, and Blade: w/e are single hit is *** baffling.
well just going by name Mercy Stroke could mean just 1 attack lol idk just trying to find a reason for the name o.o

BUT IT'S FIVE *** SWINGS. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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By Hades.Medjai 2011-08-10 01:57:28  
Bahamut.Serj said:
Hades.Medjai said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
SE needs to make the multi-hit relic ws actually multi-hit.... How in the *** Mercy Stroke, Onslaught, and Blade: w/e are single hit is *** baffling.
well just going by name Mercy Stroke could mean just 1 attack lol idk just trying to find a reason for the name o.o

BUT IT'S FIVE *** SWINGS. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
because SE is dumb as ***
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By Haist 2011-08-30 12:16:54  
Thanks for the info, I went out and got the glavoid shells and now its time for the easy part!
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By Cerberus.Furionstormrage 2011-08-30 13:37:57  
You won't regret doing the Ukon, I just finished my Itz Scales last night and it's well worth it over the WOE version.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-30 13:49:14  
Bahamut.Serj said: »
Hades.Medjai said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
SE needs to make the multi-hit relic ws actually multi-hit.... How in the *** Mercy Stroke, Onslaught, and Blade: w/e are single hit is *** baffling.
well just going by name Mercy Stroke could mean just 1 attack lol idk just trying to find a reason for the name o.o

BUT IT'S FIVE *** SWINGS. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

THE OTHER FOUR ARE FOR SHOW DUH.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-08-30 13:50:12  
Fenrir.Gradd said: »
Bahamut.Serj said: »
Hades.Medjai said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
SE needs to make the multi-hit relic ws actually multi-hit.... How in the *** Mercy Stroke, Onslaught, and Blade: w/e are single hit is *** baffling.
well just going by name Mercy Stroke could mean just 1 attack lol idk just trying to find a reason for the name o.o

BUT IT'S FIVE *** SWINGS. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

THE OTHER FOUR ARE FOR SHOW DUH.

Think that's bad have a look at Onslaught ?.?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2011-08-30 13:57:15  
12 more glavoid shells ~.~
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2011-09-12 22:20:19  
Woohoo I finished first stage Ukon today!

NO MORE GLAVOID ^.^
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By Fenrir.Eneas 2011-09-12 22:27:05  
Cerberus.Kelhor said: »
Empyrean +2 set procs? They stack with the aftermath, for quad damage excitement

last week hit kirin for 2500 on a regular swing :D
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By Sylph.Krsone 2011-09-12 23:00:06  
Bahamut.Serj said: »
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Shiva.Msthief said:
Proc rate of ODD is 30|40|50%, sorry thought that was common knowledge.

show me where it's not a flat 30% for all three.

Look for it you lazy ***. Testing was done on BG I believe. It's known to be 30/40/50.

Its also common sense that the ODD increases with lvl of aftermath/percentage of tp or why would they add the number next to the aftermath symbol to begin with.

Bahamut.Serj said: »
I need to actually spend time testing it, but I believe ODD can only proc once per attack round on mnk. It seems that no matter how many punches you do, only one is with your offhand and the rest are mainhand. There may be testing on it already, but that's what I've noticed.

Also, apparently when using hth, everyone suddenly becomes left handed. Who knew?

Im fairly sure you can double attack punching with your off hand twice and seeing ODD in one attack round. Just fairly sure I remember seeing ODD lvls of dmg twice in one attack round a few times in the past.