Yoichi Or Gandiva?

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Yoichi or Gandiva?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-18 22:20:54  
and what does yoichi sam do that better jobs can't?
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-03-18 22:21:44  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
and what does yoichi sam do that better jobs can't?
Proof
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-03-18 22:22:46  
Bismarck.Rinomaru said: »
Yochi
Yochi
Yochi
Yochi
Yochi
Yochi
Yochi
Yochi
Yochi

Enmity problem in Neo-Nyzul?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-18 22:24:49  
Bismarck.Rinomaru said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
and what does yoichi sam do that better jobs can't?
Proof
so you want sams to use a worse WS than fudo, kaiten, or shoha, just to use it at range, when the entire event is mostly running around anyways? ok
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-03-18 22:26:37  
I understand the thread is comparing yoichi to gandiva, but what I don't understand is why you would waste your time upgrading gandiva, when you could upgrade armageddon or annihilator instead. Unless you have an incredibly strong aesthetic desire to use a bow on RNG, there is no reason to upgrade one. Armageddon is easier to upgrade than gandiva too.

Yes, here we go again.

P.S. If you don't understand why the guns are better, the reason is Last Stand > jishnu's by a long shot (no pun intended). On top of that, both guns have a low enmity WS that you can use at your leisure, coronach being the superior of the two (enmity-wise).
 
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By Meowza 2012-03-18 22:29:52  
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there is no reason to upgrade one

at this point in time*

:)

Edit: ^ my entire argument initially.
 
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By Meowza 2012-03-18 22:39:40  
Ragnarok.Chronosphere said: »
Meowza said: »
Quote:
there is no reason to upgrade one

at this point in time*

:)

I don't get where you're coming from with this? I understand that not everything will be the 'best', but lets face it, none of these weapons are going to get an upgrade.

Tell me one upcoming scenario where Gandiva/Yoichi will be better than Anni

How you know none of these weapons are going to get an upgrade is a pretty big claim @.@

Who knows what SE will conspire to throw at us next, maybe they will come up with mobs that are weapon resistant (like gsword or gax etc)

The point is no one knows, not even I. But if we follow history time and time again we will see how SE has changed the course of a DD's status in a matter of an update.

Even Helel will agree that amount of boost annihilator got from last stand, making yoichi virtually null.

My point is simply at the end of the day you should upgrade what you enjoy most, you can take factors like what is the best, not saying you shouldn't (else we might see more claustrums!) but this whole notion of lolyoichi gunonry, is becoming tiresome very quickly.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-03-18 22:40:31  
How do you think Mythic X-Bow feels?
 
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By Meowza 2012-03-18 22:45:45  
I tried using the example of great sword and great axe to get my point across. Not the type of damage, slashing, blunt, piercing. The actual weapon category itself.

Sorry for the vagueness.

Who knows maybe they will introduce a new ws for everyone weapon that is questable only. You forget this is SE, nerfs and upgrades have come and go all the time over the years when you never would expect them.

Range attack nerf
Blms nuking same element nerf
Enmmity nerf on certain enfeeb spells
Pup pet nerf (i believe there is one)
Ukko's and VS nerf

I really don't need to come up with the most perfect scenario to validate my argument.

Edit: Curse you! I'm sick and typing slow :(
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-03-18 22:45:49  
No

If your a galka with a gun thats slashing
If your a hume with a bow thats blunt
if your posting here, none of this thread is helping anyone
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-03-18 23:03:08  
They will boost Claustrum one day.
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By Fupafighters 2012-03-18 23:06:36  
Bismarck.Rinomaru said: »
NeoNyzul is just one of the few lowman events
Samurai with Yochi is extremely beneficial over
Ranger with Yochi.

But i doubt anyone grasped that.
Or you can just use that thing that does alot more damage alot faster called shoha or fudo lol.
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By Fupafighters 2012-03-18 23:09:02  
Make gandiva and yoichi. Use yoichi in situations where your other DD's in alliance or pty suck and you hold hate. Use gandiva when you see that you actually have good members :D there.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-03-18 23:12:06  
Lmfao, after posting in this thread all my comments -1
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-18 23:17:33  
You're not worth my time to down rate.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-03-18 23:19:05  
Gets the ratings up
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-03-18 23:20:58  
Asura.Vrytreya said: »
They will boost Claustrum one day.
You will get your 40% boost to Gate of Tartarus and you will like it.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-03-18 23:22:19  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Asura.Vrytreya said: »
They will boost Claustrum one day.
You will get your 40% boost to Gate of Tarutarus and you will like it.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-03-18 23:24:28  

RELEASE THE TARUS
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-03-18 23:25:50  
OP said:
Yoichi or Gandiva?
Yoshi
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-18 23:31:03  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Asura.Vrytreya said: »
They will boost Claustrum one day.
You will get your 40% boost to Gate of Tartarus and you will like it.

Seems like Gate of Tarutarus could be pretty good stacked with SA! Dare I say SMN/THF!?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-18 23:31:46  
...at least mages get lots and lots of CHR gear
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-03-18 23:40:58  
Bismarck.Helel said: »
Yes, here we go again.

lol Helel... you kill me xD

Fenrir.Minjo said: »
That aside, lightning bolts man, lightning bolts. You're like Thor or something.

^this
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By Leviathan.Prototyp 2012-03-19 00:41:18  
[quote='Fupafighters' pid=1802739]Make gandiva and yoichi. Use yoichi in situations where your other DD's in alliance or pty suck and you hold hate. Use gandiva when you see that you actually have good members :D there.[/quote]

use yoichi to hold hate? kk
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By Leviathan.Prototyp 2012-03-19 00:42:36  
also lol at use fudo or shoha.

Fudo for AM only.

Thanks.