I'd argue your second RME user condition above for Shigi.
Yes, slightly less acc, but in those acc necessary situations you could be running with enough buffs that shigi's lower delay will probably do better than Raim.
You know what, Shigi's advantage is probably so miniscule I shouldn't have even spoken it aloud.
The DPS sheets have Shigi ahead of Raim/Jushi for offhand in accuracy starved situations. It's definitely a viable option. You get low delay and +27 accuracy transferred directly to your main hand.
Other options beat it when you have reasonable accuracy, but then you enter Taikogan's territory, so it's a moot point.
The DPS sheets have Shigi ahead of Raim/Jushi for offhand in accuracy starved situations. It's definitely a viable option. You get low delay and +27 accuracy transferred directly to your main hand.
Other options beat it when you have reasonable accuracy, but then you enter Taikogan's territory, so it's a moot point.
Shigi ahead of Raim in just Melee DPS right? I have Raimitsukane ahead including WS dmg.
The DPS sheets have Shigi ahead of Raim/Jushi for offhand in accuracy starved situations. It's definitely a viable option. You get low delay and +27 accuracy transferred directly to your main hand.
Other options beat it when you have reasonable accuracy, but then you enter Taikogan's territory, so it's a moot point.
Shigi ahead of Raim in just Melee DPS right? I have Raimitsukane ahead including WS dmg.
Combined DPS. Make sure your acc is terrible enough to warrant using Raim offhand over Taikogane.
If you have a situation where Raim beats Taikogane and Shigi, let me know. I've got them really close a few times, and I honestly end up using Raim a lot myself. If I'm in a situation where accuracy changes a lot, Raim seems like good bet.
I was mostly pointing out that Shigi easily beats Jushimatsu for non RME owners.
Chidori is not that bad.
Same delay, same base damage, same +skill.
All of those 3 Katanas are all pretty close and pretty similar but the tier is Raimi > Jushi > Chidori.
You can use Chidori in the same situations where you'd want to equip a Raimi/Jushi (either OH or MH) but don't have them.
So I went over the spreadsheet vs Tojil using Blade: Hi w/ Uk' cap over Ptica and none of it adds up. It showed a boost of 100 dmg w/ Uk' + str5 dex2 agi8 aug -1% crit and acc23 over Ptica. So I decided to give Ptica same str dex agi as Uk' and was still 40 pts below even w/ same stats and +1% crit rate...... The spreadsheet is kinda nice to get decent estimations but extremely flawed nonetheless which is slightly frustrating knowing nothing exists w/ more wsa accuracy ><
So I went over the spreadsheet vs Tojil using Blade: Hi w/ Uk' cap over Ptica and none of it adds up. It showed a boost of 100 dmg w/ Uk' + str5 dex2 agi8 aug -1% crit and acc23 over Ptica. So I decided to give Ptica same str dex agi as Uk' and was still 40 pts below even w/ same stats and +1% crit rate...... The spreadsheet is kinda nice to get decent estimations but extremely flawed nonetheless which is slightly frustrating knowing nothing exists w/ more wsa accuracy ><
You may want to check again. I can't reproduce this. Ptica with the same STR DEX and AGI as Uk'uxkaj comes out a bit higher from the extra crit.
Vs. fodder it's approx 300 ws damage higher and vs. something with super high def like tojil, it's 25 damage higher.
So I went over the spreadsheet vs Tojil using Blade: Hi w/ Uk' cap over Ptica and none of it adds up. It showed a boost of 100 dmg w/ Uk' + str5 dex2 agi8 aug -1% crit and acc23 over Ptica. So I decided to give Ptica same str dex agi as Uk' and was still 40 pts below even w/ same stats and +1% crit rate...... The spreadsheet is kinda nice to get decent estimations but extremely flawed nonetheless which is slightly frustrating knowing nothing exists w/ more wsa accuracy ><
You may want to check again. I can't reproduce this. Ptica with the same STR DEX and AGI as Uk'uxkaj comes out a bit higher from the extra crit.
Vs. fodder it's approx 300 ws damage higher and vs. something with super high def like tojil, it's 25 damage higher.
Yeah you're right went over it again. Must've added wrong numbers to the bottom due to trying to correct the actual agi stats on ptica. User error.
Izuna is a weak weapon, perfect for french people!!1one!!one!
Jokes aside, I often even forget Izuna exists because of the lame augment system which is random and could take you 100k like 100 mils to get decent augment whereas the other options are ready as is.
I dunno, I guess Izuna has potential at least. It has a wonderful model (personal taste) and if you've been lucky enough to get good augments, I don't see why not using it honestly.
With good augments it can probably be the best mainhand Katana (aside from RME of course)
For instance I think you can get Acc/Att+15 and DA+5, with such an augment it's gonna be quite awesome.
How up to date are the sets in the OP? I know they haven't been updated in a few months, but I mean more along the lines of whether or not some are just plain wrong or if far superior options have emerged since then. I'm still trying to get in the swing on NIN again, so any help is appreciated.
On another note, NIN can now cap delay reduction without any sort of magic or JA haste with Haverton Ring. Lol. If for whatever reason you're doing something on NIN where you're unable to get any, anyway.
So decided to go w/ the fc5% quick3% macc10 ring. Curious if anyone got the wsd ring but 15% instacast on my mage jobs and 10% on my NIN had me sold. The DW ring was meh imo since emp119 otw and even solo trusts caps m.haste.
On another note, NIN can now cap delay reduction without any sort of magic or JA haste with Haverton Ring. Lol. If for whatever reason you're doing something on NIN where you're unable to get any, anyway.
I picked Haverton primarily as a ranged ring (RNG COR), but the DW allows for all kinds of weird delay capped setups now. For instance, with Haste I only, no marches or JA haste, you need DW+32 to cap... which can be done while using Windbuffet+1 and Brutal/Suppa (Mochi +1 body(7)/legs(8), Ptica (5), Suppa (5), Haverton (5), Vellaunus+1 (2)).
Still, it's probably very unwise for anyone to pick the ring primarily because of DW on NIN, given how easy it is to cap total delay reduction anyway with buffs (including from trusts). More of a ranged piece, or a hardcore solo THF farming piece.
Merely a fun fact. Personally I'm going Karieyh because muh SAM.
Oh totally, I agree. I would definitely not have picked Haverton just thinking of NIN and want to advise people against that. But if you're getting it because of other reasons it can be a fun little toy. Also 1337 NINJUTSU SKILLZ.
Sorry if it seems messy, but I posted this for a friend to see.
Merits:
Strength 15/15
Katana Skill 8/8
Katon & Hyoton Effect 5/5
Dexterity 15/15
Throwing Skill 8/8
Katon & Hyoton: San 5/5
Agility 15/15
Evasion Skill 8/8
Ninjutsu Skill 8/8
The one questionable thing I see in your merits is your Cat. 2. By not having Sange at 5/5, you are nerfing your damage when its up, since your shadows have a chance of being eaten up, and sange not procing
Sorry if it seems messy, but I posted this for a friend to see.
Merits:
Strength 15/15
Katana Skill 8/8
Katon & Hyoton Effect 5/5
Dexterity 15/15
Throwing Skill 8/8
Katon & Hyoton: San 5/5
Agility 15/15
Evasion Skill 8/8
Ninjutsu Skill 8/8
The one questionable thing I see in your merits is your Cat. 2. By not having Sange at 5/5, you are nerfing your damage when its up, since your shadows have a chance of being eaten up, and sange not procing
That might be true. But I like having the versatility of dealing magical damage. Also, Magic bursting ninjutsu is able to deal decent damage (and fun).
