The Great Debate 2

I'd so move to that state... note that there are many countries that have that as there age of consent

So, again, why are YOU against gay marriage. Aside from "the people voted"

Because I guarantee if they voted for killing off the doggies or w/e that you wouldn't like, you wouldn't simply be fore it just because other people do.

I think Gay marriage shouldn't be, is because the majority still doesnt want it.
and the argument for gay marriage is "You cant pull religion into this...so you have no reason on why it shouldnt be." that argument will be used for other people "you cant stop me from marring two people."

as a WHOLE COUNTRY. as in the popular vote. not a majority of states, not california, the whole country. kinda like if we went with the popular vote in the presidential race bush would not have won against gore.

So, again, why are YOU against gay marriage. Aside from "the people voted"

Because I guarantee if they voted for killing off the doggies or w/e that you wouldn't like, you wouldn't simply be fore it just because other people do.

what's sad about that is the state isn't enforcing the state laws by allowing the DEA to raid dispensaries and seize their patient records (that's illegal too btw). they just sit there and let them even though it's highly controlled and only for medical purposes.

You seem to be missing his point, or I'm misinterpretting him: he has no view point on it, therefore he'd be fine with what the state says.

I've told you my beliefs and I welcome to hear yours. Move on, this thread isnt about me.

just because it's legal in a state doesn't mean it's legal federally. see medical marijuana and the DEA comment earlier. federally they could say you can't file jointly because you aren't married ect ect.

You seem to be missing his point, or I'm misinterpretting him: he has no view point on it, therefore he'd be fine with what the state says.

I don't really understand the huge opposition to it... I understand the bible thing, and how for Christians it isn't right, etc.

But Christianity isn't the only religion out there. Buddhists are allowed to get married, and they don't follow the bible, same for Atheists, Hindus, Judaism, Shintoism, etc. If all those religions are allowed to get married, in their own form of celebration, why aren't homosexuals?

I understand if a Catholic priest refuses to marry a gay couple, because it is against his religion, that is that church's choice. But refusing to allow gay couples to marry at ALL, regardless of the type of celebration they wish, just doesn't make sense.

I know its basically because we're in a transition period where people are slowly becoming more and more able to accept homosexuals and all, but when it comes down to the legal terms of it, I don't see any reason where it has to be law that a marriage is JUST between a man and a woman. There is supposed to be a separation between church and state (in the US, as well as numerous other countries), and forcing that definition seems to be holding onto religion.

I suppose that in the past, for biological reasons, it makes sense where just a man and woman would be considered, because they could have children and continue the race... but these days, there are still sterile people that are allowed to get married, and there are ways around it (in vitro fertilization, adoption), and we aren't exactly on the brink of extinction either

I don't know... obviously I support it, its just that I don't understand why it is such a big issue... it seems to come down to just religion, and I don't believe the term "marriage" should be seen in pure religious terms.

Going off topic cause I feel more strongly about this. Medical MJ is not that highly controlled or hard to get. You can find a doctor to proscribe for just about anything. I know people who are on it for undiagnosed sleep problems. Just went in and are like I have trouble sleeping weed makes me mellow and bam prescription

I kinda... don't believe in marriage at all. So I guess I don't have much to contribute.

Or that may be my extremely apathetic mood.

I'll have to agree with this one. 2 of my aunts never got married but have been with same guy forever. One until she died and the other still with him. Marriage is a silly institution nowadays. Why do you got take a legally binding action to show you care for someone? Oh and apathy rocks until you stop caring about anything then you lose self ideas of preservation

and that doctor can lose his license. that's why they seize the patient records and check all the doctors that prescribed MJ out. medical marijuana has it's uses and im 100% sure you wouldn't mind if a cripple in a chair was smoking a joint cause it eases his pain. it works wonders for a lot of different things and its natural. if they made it legal for recreation use the taxes it would bring in could turn this country around. not to mention if hemp was legal to grow clothes would last longer and such.

isn't there some kinda common law marriage thing that would apply to them since they were together for so long anyways?

^ This.

Not just siding with her because she's my Sidiberry, but couldn't really have said it better myself; she's pretty much said what I was going to say.

Honestly, I don't see the issue with allowing gays to marry...

Come to Canada, we'll marry you all!

I like it mainly for the idea if there's someone you really care about and you die before you had gotten the chance to write out a will, that they would be in charge because you trust them enough to ect.

get a trust written up. then you don't have to get married just to have that person be in charge. hell even a power of attorney.

Cele and I got civil unioned last weekend ^^

I fixed it for you. :D <3