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Why does BG wiki have admin-protected slurs?
Shiva.Thorny
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-06-29 10:34:28
Asura.Clintbeastwood said: »Oh it's still in effect, please see my post above. Weird, I said retard in that post originally then edited it because the filter didn't kick in. Is there some special condition for it?
Edit again, must just be with -ed
HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE
By Althor 2026-06-29 10:35:45
instead of taking it up with them on their own forums, btw
Great idea, let me just make an account with my anonymised email provider..
Oh waaaaaaaaaait........
(/runs)
did lol, but waiting for that approval just lets the rage grow hotter!
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Carbuncle.Nynja
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Posts: 7669
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-06-29 10:36:11
The filter takes like 2 minutes to replace the word. I saw Thorny's post with the proper word written in, refreshed and it was gone.
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By Asura.Clintbeastwood 2026-06-29 10:37:07
Asura.Clintbeastwood said: »Oh it's still in effect, please see my post above. Weird, I said retard in that post originally then edited it because the filter didn't kick in. Is there some special condition for it?
Edit again, must just be with -ed
HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE
lmao, you're so HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE
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By RadialArcana 2026-06-29 10:37:17
if it's not a slur why didn't you say it :)
Cause Rooks bans you for it (selectively of course)
By Dodik 2026-06-29 10:38:50
facts I don't like.
<I did not in fact write that.>
By tallica 2026-06-29 10:39:29
Really? This is an issue with you?
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By Althor 2026-06-29 10:40:11
Gotta say this is actually in the true BG spirit, ironic or not. People used to get more satisfaction denying others progress or enjoyment (HNM claims, Gimp/Confused/WTF thread, etc.) than for anything they accomplished.
So as much as things change, they stay the same.
Lakshmi.Buukki
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-06-29 10:41:08
Asura.Clintbeastwood said: »Asura.Clintbeastwood said: »Oh it's still in effect, please see my post above. Weird, I said retard in that post originally then edited it because the filter didn't kick in. Is there some special condition for it?
Edit again, must just be with -ed
re-tarded
lmao, you're so HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE
Funny, because if you quote someone, you see what they originally posted. Same with "facts I don't like" (Fak.e New.s)
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By Asura.Clintbeastwood 2026-06-29 10:45:48
Asura.Clintbeastwood said: »Asura.Clintbeastwood said: »Oh it's still in effect, please see my post above. Weird, I said retard in that post originally then edited it because the filter didn't kick in. Is there some special condition for it?
Edit again, must just be with -ed
re-tarded
lmao, you're so HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE
Funny, because if you quote someone, you see what they originally posted. Same with "facts I don't like" (Fak.e New.s)
So you can see, I never said the bad word! "HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE" is the new slur.
By RadialArcana 2026-06-29 10:55:07
By the way, there are 3 basic ways to see these words:
1:They are blasphemy, and uttering them is a crime against humanity. Often the people who get mad at them are not even the target of them used hatefully, they are just mad at the use of the words at all.
2:Used against random people, friends, pets, inanimate objects.
3:Going upto people and using them hatefully against them, intentionally targeted.
People from 1 often conflate the use of 2 and 3 together as the same, they are not the same at all. There is a massive difference between 2 and 3. Just cause you think they are the same or you're sensitive, doesn't mean you get to force everyone else to comply with your beliefs.
By HiPotion 2026-06-29 10:58:15
The filter takes like 2 minutes to replace the word. I saw Thorny's post with the proper word written in, refreshed and it was gone. the 'proper' word lol
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By Asura.Clintbeastwood 2026-06-29 11:02:25
By the way, there are 3 basic ways to see these words:
1:They are blasphemy, and uttering them is a crime against humanity. Often the people who get mad at them are not even the target of them used hatefully, they are just mad at the use of the words at all.
2:Used against random people, friends, pets, inanimate objects.
3:Going upto people and using them hatefully against them, intentionally targeted.
People from 1 often conflate the use of 2 and 3 together as the same, they are not the same at all. There is a massive difference between 2 and 3. Just cause you think they are the same or you're sensitive, doesn't mean you get to force everyone else to comply with your beliefs.
What you're describing is intent, and the people that rage about said words lack the critical thought process to make the distinction between them.
I think there's a word for that....
By Genoxd 2026-06-29 11:09:40
Removing these would be literally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
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By Genoxd 2026-06-29 11:10:01
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By Genoxd 2026-06-29 11:15:25
Anyways, until we get confirmation that those will never be edited off bgwiki and that the admins will keep them for all time, I will be blocking LightningHelix. I cannot deal with someone that is so immature that they cannot deal with the world as it is and I feel I should tell you all this so that it is somehow your problem too.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2026-06-29 11:23:44
r*tard isn't a slur. It's a medical term
Used in other contexts too.
I flew a full motion sim once and it kept yelling it at me. Now I want someone to modify it to make it say HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE instead.
I also used a set of pressure gauges wrong the other day and sent the low pressure gauge too high. The upper limit of 150-300psi says it too. I almost made a meme about it being offensive but didn't.
I love shitposting
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By Asura.Clintbeastwood 2026-06-29 11:35:31
OP woulda never survived the MW2 lobby chat.
By Genoxd 2026-06-29 11:39:41
Intention matters behind words. This is what we have lost in all this censorship.
Are you intending to hurt someone? Is it in the context of history or a joke/meme?
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By Asura.Volteczero 2026-06-29 11:42:12
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By RadialArcana 2026-06-29 11:57:04
Hya joked about it but it's true.
If a highly religious person came in and was offended at OP using the lords name in vein, they would laugh and do it more or just ignore them. So this outrage is purely based on the words they personally don't like, and not about hurting peoples feelings.
By Dodik 2026-06-29 12:09:34
The word "patrons" in some languages means the same as "pimp" as in keeper of hoes, and not the garden tool kind.
In English, it means "person that frequents an establishment" or "customer".
I love calling people patrons just to mess with them.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2026-06-29 12:16:07
At least 3 GPUs died for this shitpost
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-06-29 12:16:48
hold up hold up hold up hold up
Last I checked, societal norms dictate that if you are of said class, it is societally acceptable to use said class slurs. Black people can call each other N words, gays can use the F word, etc etc. Now, if these pages were made by Spicy, then it stands to reason that no societal guidelines have been broken, as a member of said societal class, Spicy is permitted to use said slurs.
Before anyone gets mad at me, I didnt make these rules.
Fenrir.Jinxs
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2026-06-29 12:23:05
Roll the disclaimer and move on
You could spend the same amount of energy,
complaining,
instead do something helpful.
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By Dodik 2026-06-29 12:27:26
Devil's advocate: Are static products of their time like a cartoon the same as a website that makes fun of being offended at what most would consider slurs today?
Fenrir.Jinxs
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2026-06-29 12:32:39
Personally, I'd rather see someone put on trial for their logic rather than their word choice.
Oh back in DEC 2025 this person used "the" or a "bad pronoun" blacklist them.
The more you spend time being critical of the past, the less time you are spending moving forward.
By mononokia 2026-06-29 12:39:42
everyone is so triggered at the mere suggestion that these pages be removed. you’re not even defending funny pages here y’all! go look at them! why do you care so much about their continued existence? i promise you there’s worse things out there than some people wanting a wiki cleaned up of old garbage.
By Genoxd 2026-06-29 12:46:48
I've had people tell me that I shouldn't use the word dumb and instead use stupid. Dumb is a slur that was used to insult people that were deaf/blind/mute.
Does dumb also get censored?
The "Meme" category on BG wiki contains a lot of admin-protected (uneditable) pages:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Category:Meme
Among these are "Guild" and, of course, the FFXI meme that everyone totally knows, "Mentally Deficient". Both of which have the r-slur on them:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Guild
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Mentally_Deficient
I suggested removing the entirety of the Meme category over on the suggestions page, and got the nebulous reply that
"BG mods/admins discussed Meme pages and agreed they prefer them to stay."
entirely via the edit history on said pages:
So the slurs get to stay too! Apparently keeping all the meme pages means we also have to keep the slurs! We must preserve the important classic FFXI culture of, checks notes:

2017. This page was created in twenty fucking SEVENTEEN. The same classic FFXI culture of the year where Omen was the hot new endgame content.
edit: Oh. My bad. The "Mentally Deficient" page is obviously not from 2017.

It's from Twenty God Damn Twenty Three.
...Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?!
As I posted over there on the Suggestions page, I will not be editing the BG Wiki any further until, at minimum, those two slurs are removed - plus any others I don't know about, I'm not going to say there aren't more.
"BG mods/admins": What exactly are you thinking? You clearly discussed this, so by all means, please do air out the results of your discussion publicly.
Signed, StaplerGuy on the wiki, Joespreadsheet on Phoenix, formerly Lightninghelix on Asura. I'm a bad poster and I'm here to make it everyone's problem until the slurs are gone.
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