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Why does BG wiki have admin-protected slurs?
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-06-29 14:58:45
There are two SE MMO options
24 year old Final Gantasy XI
14 year old Furry Fantasy XIV
Ill gladly stan my choice
By Felgarr 2026-06-29 15:03:35
Hmmm.
1.) HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE
2.) HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE
3.) retard
4.) R-word in a code block: Code HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE
HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE
retard
Retard
5.) R-word in a URL w/o Text: Here is some text
6.) R-word in a URL with offending text: HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE
Edit: You are sufficiently thorough, Rooks. ;)
By mononokia 2026-06-29 15:17:07
i’m glad we can all at least come together on one point: makin spicyryan mad everyone is so triggered at the mere suggestion that these pages be removed. you’re not even defending funny pages here y’all! go look at them! why do you care so much about their continued existence? i promise you there’s worse things out there than some people wanting a wiki cleaned up of old garbage.
The pages should absolutely be removed. They add no value to the wiki and they aren't funny.
I'm just not a fan of language policing, especially in cases where there's not really any substance behind it. Is there anyone here who can honestly say they've never heard someone make a comment and immediately thought, "this person must not be very bright"? Having a word for that is useful, and for some reason that particular condition has a string of banned terms attached to it. i’ll buy you a thesaurus, they got all kinds of words in there, it’s crazy. you’ll be like, whoaaa!!!!!
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-06-29 15:18:36
Im always down to learn new slurs
Slurs in other languages are wonderful too
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2026-06-29 15:53:50
The jokes randomly thrown in is 49% of why bg is better than ffxiclopedia. Trust me I did the math. 49% seems low, bg is estimated by Altana to be 2,000,000% better than ffxiclopedia (pronounced fandom)
The real ones remember Somepage.
The unfortunate ones are still virused.
LOL
By Jelmer 2026-06-29 16:03:37
Dear OP,
I think it is for the best that you stop editing wiki pages. You seem to be one of those zealous woke people who promote cancel culture and consider everything that doesn't conform to their ideology to be bad.
There are a couple of issues with this;
- As people pointed out: If you erase your history you new generations will also no longer be able to learn from them; thus making it much more likely to repeat the same mistakes. Ironic how your behavior therefor directly increasing the likelihood of things you clearly do not condone to happen more often in the future.
- Language is a tool. Words like 'gay', 'retard' and/or '***', amongst others, mean different things in different contexts, cultures and their meaning even often depend on their word class. In addition, the meaning of a word can change. (Just look up the history of the word 'gay' for example.) Words are also words. People are going to say(and do) stuff you don't like. It'd be wise to get used to that. Not only will life be much more fun, you'll also come across as an actual adult instead of a complete ***.
- Speaking about the change in language; Soon enough there will be a time when people with common sense will stop listening to people who promote cancel culture. People will no longer fair the loud voice of the ignorant and self righteous. I'll be there and do my utmost to make sure all the documentation of it won't be erased like to are trying to do now. So that the next generation will learn and has fewer people like you.
- I'm sensitive to people like you. But I do not request you to be erased. Although I do not oppose the idea.
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By Asura.Reidden 2026-06-29 16:12:33
Is riri blocked.
Edit: Nope ^^b
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By Asura.Volteczero 2026-06-29 16:14:53
I have had more luck trying to understand why I react to things a certain way and what I can do about that, rather than expect other people to conform to the behavior I want them to. YMMV
listen here bucko, if we wanted adult solutions we wouldn't be on a forum for a 20 year old japanese kids' game Kids game? This is geriatric game
By Mistressfifi 2026-06-29 16:15:57
how about read tart or weed fart
weed fart better cause its not even the same meaning really anymore, just means you smell bad i guess (or good depending on your prefferrence)
(dont take offense im just bored & shitposting)
By RadialArcana 2026-06-29 16:19:46
It's not a kids game, it's made for teenagers!
By Mistressfifi 2026-06-29 16:22:08
It's not a kids game, it's made for teenagers! seems like most act like children around here, myself included when i was 13
By Jetackuu 2026-06-29 17:06:15
The "Meme" category on BG wiki contains a lot of admin-protected (uneditable) pages:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Category:Meme
Among these are "Guild" and, of course, the FFXI meme that everyone totally knows, "Mentally Deficient". Both of which have the r-slur on them:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Guild
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Mentally_Deficient
I suggested removing the entirety of the Meme category over on the suggestions page, and got the nebulous reply that
"BG mods/admins discussed Meme pages and agreed they prefer them to stay."
entirely via the edit history on said pages:
So the slurs get to stay too! Apparently keeping all the meme pages means we also have to keep the slurs! We must preserve the important classic FFXI culture of, checks notes:

2017. This page was created in twenty *** SEVENTEEN. The same classic FFXI culture of the year where Omen was the hot new endgame content.
edit: Oh. My bad. The "Mentally Deficient" page is obviously not from 2017.

It's from Twenty God Damn Twenty Three.
...Are you *** KIDDING ME?!
As I posted over there on the Suggestions page, I will not be editing the BG Wiki any further until, at minimum, those two slurs are removed - plus any others I don't know about, I'm not going to say there aren't more.
"BG mods/admins": What exactly are you thinking? You clearly discussed this, so by all means, please do air out the results of your discussion publicly.
Signed, StaplerGuy on the wiki, Joespreadsheet on Phoenix, formerly Lightninghelix on Asura. I'm a bad poster and I'm here to make it everyone's problem until the slurs are gone. oh grow tf up
I love how everyone always cries here about BG instead of taking it up with them on their own forums, btw. I'm sure they prefer it that way, too.
this
Bismarck.Nickeny
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2026-06-29 17:15:23
And here I am, just happy that the French world for cigarettes is back on the table...
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Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-06-29 18:04:30
i’ll buy you a thesaurus, they got all kinds of words in there, it’s crazy. you’ll be like, whoaaa!!!!!
The catch is that whatever word replaces retard as a clinical term for mentally deficient will eventually become a generic insult, become inappropriate for medical use, and be replaced by a newer and more sanitized term. People calling each other mentally deficient is proof enough of that.
Silly words like dull, half-witted, or unintelligent don't carry the same implications or take the same place in the lexicon.
I'm not the one calling people retards, nor do I care that the page was removed. But, at some point you have to accept that a term for those who have below standard intelligence needs to exist and is very likely to end up used as a schoolyard insult. Is there a reason you have such strong feelings about this one in particular?
By Lythturia 2026-06-29 18:37:45
Before I read this thread: Oh no dudes, even in 2005 you can't call eastern shadow that, no matter how bad the drop rate was.
Afterwards: Oh... pfft.
By HiPotion 2026-06-29 19:45:24
someone have to say it, every time we ban a slur they become president. banning the r-word has cost us a lot till now.
the word next will be orange
Ragnarok.Trixi
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By Ragnarok.Trixi 2026-06-29 20:26:34
unalive slewerslide skipidydetoiletries sixersevens myfeefees forizzles doowop groovy
By Tarage 2026-06-29 21:46:47
Find a better use of your time.
By Foxfire 2026-06-29 22:41:26
Jeez, I've missed out on a fair bit.
So as far as I was involved, the decision to keep the meme pages was because we were informed that there was a blanket deletion request for all pages tagged under "meme", without any heads up, and without reasoning. Ragns and Sonomaa said that memes are important to keep, so we did. Ragu also made the mention of how the xiv raids brought some traffic for people trying to get the references.
I'm not here to promote using slurs - and honestly if you're still trying to use the r-word as a pejorative in the big 2026 then please get out more - but the decision was made in response to maintaining the category at large rather than... well, whatever spicy made there. I see that funk already addressed the offending pages? so this seems like a closed case.
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Sylph.Drlove
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By Sylph.Drlove 2026-06-29 22:48:11
Anyone else just find out about these pages? Glad I came across this rere post.
By Dodik 2026-06-29 23:53:00
Find a better use of your time.
You play XI. Can't judge anyone how they get their kicks.
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By Asura.Clintbeastwood 2026-06-29 23:59:56
Anyone else just find out about these pages? Glad I came across this rere post.
Never knew about them and never would have, as I don't go out of my way to find things to be offended about, because that would be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
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By Asura.Clintbeastwood 2026-06-30 00:02:10
I do think the meme pages should stay, however. Things like this are truly ffxi history.
By Tanag 2026-06-30 00:12:32
We have such an embarrassing community here. Most of you are in your 40s.
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-06-30 00:15:37
We have such an embarrassing community here. Most of you are in your 40s. YouTube Video Placeholder
XI isnt overrun with *** furries who made a Tinder for FFXIV.
By Mistressfifi 2026-06-30 00:39:11
We have such an embarrassing community here. Most of you are in your 40s. honestly im just waiting for rook to lock this thread at this point. and that makes me sad because this is a ridiculous thread on so many levels it's not even funny. no one should have to clean up this mess (i did not help this with my shitpost, im sorry i know it was terrible. i couldnt resist to use my old 2018 cringe words back when i was 13)
By RadialArcana 2026-06-30 01:46:13
Reminder that two people got offended by a thing, threatened the wiki site and they folded like a cheap suit.
If they get offended in a month about a brand new word (the R thing was already an escalation), that then becomes the norm and used by people they don't like (it's ok if they use a slur they create) they will do the same thing and again and will get their way, because they know how to manipulate people to do their bidding.
Everything OP wanted they got, and by giving in all you have done is ensure you get more of it. You showed you're weak, and you will cave and so they will just annoy you more now.
We have such an embarrassing community here. Most of you are in your 40s. Generations ago when you hit 15 you were an adult and put away all childish things cause you had to literally work in the coal mines to support your family, society has changed completely over the past 40-50-60 w/e years and effectively nobody grows up at all anymore.
Corporations have done this, they made it socially acceptable to be this way cause money.
You're no better than the rest of us, you're "collecting" your pokemon cards that immigrants fight each other over to buy to resell on ebay to us for four times the price, buying your Tifa booba figures to add to the collection of 100 others you own, dressup up like video game/cartoon characters with a bunch of other adults at shows, you're playing video games made for kids on your nintendo with your mario hat on, you're buying lego sets for 1000 times what they used to sell for when kids parents bought for them that they covered in spaghetti.
We used to get adult movies, now the theaters are full of 30-40 year olds watching mario movies and arguing over them like they are serious and important media.
20-30+ years ago, most of the things that have become prestige hobbies were all the domain of children, teenagers and weed smokers. Now almost every middle class 30+ adult that grew up in the west, (this is partly why every western nation is flooding themselves with 3rd world immigrants who do not have peter pan syndrome btw) spends their money on childish nonsense and are in effect forever teenagers.
We all collectively in the west have peter pan syndrome, so please don't get on a soap box and pretend you're less of a shitter than the rest of us.
That we argue on a forum cause it's entertaining does not make us any worse or better than you or anyone else. This is like looking down on others cause they ***their pants, and you ***your pants also but just 10% less.
In reality people only use this argument when it's an attempt to shut down others arguing for things they don't like, there is no calling OP childish for caring about literately nothing. Only the people who are arguing against them.
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By Asura.Clintbeastwood 2026-06-30 02:36:55
Carbuncle.Crowlina
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By Carbuncle.Crowlina 2026-06-30 02:59:26
OP: hey guys why don't we clean up some of these old wiki pages that are, at best, in poor taste? might help in onboarding newer players
boomer *** cringelords: >:( shut up and stop talking about it. it is vital to the very idea of liberty that i get to use words that were deployed within living memory in medical settings to label and justify forced sterilization of actual for real people deemed by the state to be mentally deficient, a practice grown from the pseudoscientific principles of eugenics. to imagine that the careless use of this word, or others like it, might upset or concern someone with experiences different from my own is beyond me.
yeah dude giving a ***about others is a slippery slope, my cousin got arrested last week for not holding the door open for someone coming in behind him at mcdonald's. complete decline of "The West". civilization over pack it in
By RadialArcana 2026-06-30 03:15:53
Carbuncle.Crowlina said: »OP: hey guys why don't we clean up some of these old wiki pages that are, at best, in poor taste? might help in onboarding newer players
boomer *** cringelords: >:( shut up and stop talking about it. it is vital to the very idea of liberty that i get to use words that were deployed within living memory in medical settings to label and justify forced sterilization of actual for real people deemed by the state to be mentally deficient, a practice grown from the pseudoscientific principles of eugenics. to imagine that the careless use of this word, or others like it, might upset or concern someone with experiences different from my own is beyond me.
yeah dude giving a ***about others is a slippery slope, my cousin got arrested last week for not holding the door open for someone coming in behind him at mcdonald's. complete decline of "The West". civilization over pack it in
Your avatar is making fun of a woman with a disability.
Performative, virtue signaling shitters.
The "Meme" category on BG wiki contains a lot of admin-protected (uneditable) pages:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Category:Meme
Among these are "Guild" and, of course, the FFXI meme that everyone totally knows, "Mentally Deficient". Both of which have the r-slur on them:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Guild
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Mentally_Deficient
I suggested removing the entirety of the Meme category over on the suggestions page, and got the nebulous reply that
"BG mods/admins discussed Meme pages and agreed they prefer them to stay."
entirely via the edit history on said pages:
So the slurs get to stay too! Apparently keeping all the meme pages means we also have to keep the slurs! We must preserve the important classic FFXI culture of, checks notes:

2017. This page was created in twenty fucking SEVENTEEN. The same classic FFXI culture of the year where Omen was the hot new endgame content.
edit: Oh. My bad. The "Mentally Deficient" page is obviously not from 2017.

It's from Twenty God Damn Twenty Three.
...Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?!
As I posted over there on the Suggestions page, I will not be editing the BG Wiki any further until, at minimum, those two slurs are removed - plus any others I don't know about, I'm not going to say there aren't more.
"BG mods/admins": What exactly are you thinking? You clearly discussed this, so by all means, please do air out the results of your discussion publicly.
Signed, StaplerGuy on the wiki, Joespreadsheet on Phoenix, formerly Lightninghelix on Asura. I'm a bad poster and I'm here to make it everyone's problem until the slurs are gone.
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