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July 2026 Version Update
By Shichishito 2026-07-09 22:20:33
If a job falls in disfavor there is not just no effort to re-balance that job, it will get neglected and nerfed so it doesn't recover for at least a decade it seems. There are a few exceptions where SE plays favorites though.
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By Torzak 2026-07-09 23:11:50
Not happy with ANY of this gear. I don't feel like SE is even demonstrating they have a finger on the pulse.
If they are targeting new players, the 30 merit cost wasn't logical.
If they want 30 merit costs and low drop rates, then the gear should feel like something is an upgrade for some purpose for at least some of the jobs that can wear it for established players. New players already have a TON of stuff to work toward that matches or exceeds what they just released.
As a RDM main, it immediately pops to mind to compare Elemental Nuke options. Why is the Mage Body from this new fight weighing in with 50 magic accuracy, 40MAB and 5MBII, when EA +1 Body (2017 body) has macc+52, MAB+44, MB+9 and MBII+9. RDM, BLM, and GEO can wear EA, and the only other job on the new body that nukes with proficiency is SCH. BRD and SMN probably do not care at all for MBII or MAB[if the MAB lacks pairing with ws%].
If they had done something like 10 WS% and 45MAB on the mage body and bumped up INT and MND a touch, it would've at least been usable for a lot of people on Elemental WS, as that would perform better than Nyame.
But I'm looking at this body as a career RDM and there's zero desire for this body... the first High Tier Merit fight addition in a while now and why would I even care? You have to put *something* on the gear that makes us want it.
I'm not going to go too much into the weapons, but they are not attractive to me either.
One of my larger yearnings for Modern FFXI, is for considerations for Crit Based weaponskills to be given. They need to start adding gear with Crit DMG %. I don't even care if the pieces have slow % on them to prevent their use as TP pieces. Ramapage, Evisceration, CDC, etc. This game has focused on WS% gear and big 1 hit weaponskills (Tachi: whatever, Savage, Rudra, Primes, etc) for too darn long.
Does SE even understand that WS% gear is largely pointless for these weaponskills?
Any number of us, even if we had no programming skill, could be hired to offer advisement and make this game more diverse, and more fun, for a broader audience, all while largely recycling assets and ideas.
It's not that hard SE. Please figure it out.
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By Asura.Vyre 2026-07-09 23:30:32
As someone who's been very lazy about R30ing any of my Gleti's, but also as someone who's seen a ton of players who have also been lazy and not aug'd their Sakpatas past R20...
The Reciente Coselete is kinda great.
It's got more accuracy than R30 Sakpata's body and 2% more double attack. No crit rate or PDL, 1 less DT, and none of the other defensive/healing received benefits. 2% more Haste though.
But as a piece for building TP, it is superior to R30 Sakpata's. R30 Sakpata body when taking its +55 accuracy and 25 DEX into consideration has about +73 or +74 accuracy depending on your race's/gear's DEX total.
The Reciente Coselete has +50 accuracy and +32 DEX, putting it at +74 accuaracy or +75 depending again on your race/dex gear.
R30 Gleti's on the other hand, beats it out slightly in the accuracy category and also by having Regain. Of course, Gleti's only sports PDT, and while you'll hear good talk about Shell V and MDT being easy to cap, breath damage is quite prevalent because of endgame enemies sporting fetters and gyves, so the Reciente Coselete beats Gleti's defensively, for the most part (MDB on Gleti's is huge, so if you can get enough DT elsewhere to not be an issue for your healer, then it's still the better piece. But only when it's R28+).
Like yeah, it's not blowing our socks off. But only us crusty veterans could look at such a nice piece, and say, "Meh, this sucks!" When it doesn't suck at all.
Like you could get a Reciente Coselete as a newbie or on a mule, and that character would never even have to consider RPing either Sakpata or Gleti body, realistically.
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By Bahamut.Noscrying 2026-07-09 23:37:43
ok but in all seriousness now. is anyone else getting their JA restored by Nihility Genesis (used by seed crystal. im on N difficulty.) (edit: this does not reset 1hrs sadly)
Yes, it also restores JA on VD
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-07-09 23:47:44
Like yeah, it's not blowing our socks off. But only us crusty veterans could look at such a nice piece, and say, "Meh, this sucks!" When it doesn't suck at all.
Like you could get a Reciente Coselete as a newbie or on a mule, and that character would never even have to consider RPing either Sakpata or Gleti body, realistically.
Everyone is saying the same thing you said. It sucks for veterans (hence: nobody is clambering to get it), but it's a nice piece for new players.
It's not BiS for ***at the endgame. Sakpata has higher crit rate, resist all status ailments, cure received, PDL, DT, DEF, and HP. You aren't trading all that crap for 1 acc and 2 DA.
For DRG I'd use Hjarrandi if I needed DT-, especially considering the STP scales better with QA/TA/DA (from your wyvern), or just use Gleti's body if you want DA and/or aren't fighting something with active fetters out.
I don't think I will put any of these bodies in any set on any job. My entire group looked at this armor, went "meh", and we decided not to bother farming the HTBF today.
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By Sylph.Pve 2026-07-10 10:14:13
I only bothered to get the Club and Ammo for my PLD character and moved on from this HTMB.
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By Tarage 2026-07-10 12:44:49
As someone who's been very lazy about R30ing any of my Gleti's, but also as someone who's seen a ton of players who have also been lazy and not aug'd their Sakpatas past R20...
The Reciente Coselete is kinda great.
It's got more accuracy than R30 Sakpata's body and 2% more double attack. No crit rate or PDL, 1 less DT, and none of the other defensive/healing received benefits. 2% more Haste though.
But as a piece for building TP, it is superior to R30 Sakpata's. R30 Sakpata body when taking its +55 accuracy and 25 DEX into consideration has about +73 or +74 accuracy depending on your race's/gear's DEX total.
The Reciente Coselete has +50 accuracy and +32 DEX, putting it at +74 accuaracy or +75 depending again on your race/dex gear.
R30 Gleti's on the other hand, beats it out slightly in the accuracy category and also by having Regain. Of course, Gleti's only sports PDT, and while you'll hear good talk about Shell V and MDT being easy to cap, breath damage is quite prevalent because of endgame enemies sporting fetters and gyves, so the Reciente Coselete beats Gleti's defensively, for the most part (MDB on Gleti's is huge, so if you can get enough DT elsewhere to not be an issue for your healer, then it's still the better piece. But only when it's R28+).
Like yeah, it's not blowing our socks off. But only us crusty veterans could look at such a nice piece, and say, "Meh, this sucks!" When it doesn't suck at all.
Like you could get a Reciente Coselete as a newbie or on a mule, and that character would never even have to consider RPing either Sakpata or Gleti body, realistically.
Newbies aren't getting this armor either. The drop rate is absurdly low. No newbie is gonna spam this fight 200 times.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2026-07-10 12:47:33
DOA content even for newbies. Very simple SE lost their ability to create anything. Sad to see. This was a net zero - Limbus still needs a lot of work, and honestly, I don't even want to bother with it.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2026-07-10 13:01:31
Is the drop rate on the body pieces Shinryu bad? If so, that is a massive disappointment.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-07-10 13:17:11
A full day and not one documented drop
It's tough to be sure, because there's no excitement, it's largely ignored.
It's certainly a bad drop rate, far below reasonable, for sure.
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2026-07-10 13:18:36
Did 3 fights (Normal, VD title for me, VD title for others) and no bodies here. Just weapons.
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By Bahamut.Noscrying 2026-07-10 13:34:26
Done 8 VDs, 1D, 1N, 1E, got all weapons and Ammo for 3 characters, no bodies.
By sorge74 2026-07-10 15:20:04
So the bodies are "catch up" items but it'll take you weeks or months to get them? Wtf is SE doing.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-07-10 15:20:56
They had it right with CoD and ruined it with this new one
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2026-07-10 15:27:59
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By tallica 2026-07-10 18:14:15
So the bodies are "catch up" items but it'll take you weeks or months to get them? Wtf is SE doing. I've seen two bodies in less than or around 15 fights.
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By Tarage 2026-07-10 18:52:49
So the bodies are "catch up" items but it'll take you weeks or months to get them? Wtf is SE doing.
"Sorry dude, you picked the short straw, you gotta make the next FFXI update. Don't worry, once you push that ***out, you get to come back and work on 14 again."
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By Genoxd 2026-07-10 19:49:53
If they buy me an extra claude code max sub I can make them better content then this in my free time :)
Hell if they just give me source code access I'll use my own tokens for this.
Edit: please note I am not saying I would make GOOD content. Only better than this.
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By Carbuncle.Crowlina 2026-07-10 21:45:57
Quote: Nupe. Flama head +2 is still being included in some of the melee sets for heavy DDs on the BG wiki page. They just work around the non-native -DT stat. So long as there are so many other ways to cap/mid-cap -DT, Flamma Head will find a place in those sims. STP+TA is too good to NOT be BIS on "da sims". You will never be able to convince people to phase that piece out.
(Just a messenger, don't get me Dodik, i don't advocate for it, but it's publicly visible to all)
Will have to see what the actual stats on the new head piece are first.
I get what you're saying and you're not wrong. At the same time, just because a sim spits out some gear doesn't mean you have to use it nor that it's bis.
I will forever laugh at people using sim tp sets, no matter what sim says or what excuses there are for it.
a sim can have its uses imo, but that depends largely on whether someone using it understands what conditions are being simulated and how well that map represents the territory, so to speak. i haven't fiddled with the sim that's been used here to build cookie-cutter BIS lists but if i were going to rely on sims i would want a lot of specific knobs and dials to play with.
for instance, the metagame of C seg farming still shapes perceptions about what makes for optimal DPS in other situations. it's fields of squishy mobs that can be burst down in a single weaponskill usually, therefore the limiting reactant probably has more to do with a player's target-switching agility than it does straight TP gain. you can still do plenty of work in limbus as a sword/board WAR optimizing for average weaponskill damage, but because the mobs stay alive longer factors like TP gain and skillchain damage become more relevant, which make options like dual wield and 2h much more useful than they'd be in sheol C.
there are also plenty of people out there who don't consider things like MEva/MDB/status resist as useful in their TP sets, like folks used to not consider DT important. gets a lot harder to slam the savage blade button when you're paralyzed, petrified, or dead, and even a good WHM and a pocket full of meds can only get one so far. i went to check the MEva differences between flamma+2 head, war empy+3 head, and sakpata's and it was wayyyy bigger than i remembered lmao
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By sorge74 2026-07-10 23:42:33
So the bodies are "catch up" items but it'll take you weeks or months to get them? Wtf is SE doing. I've seen two bodies in less than or around 15 fights.
Seems you have had better luck then others and I'm assuming that's on VD? And I'd argue that's still too low for intended purpose of new player gearing. They aren't going to be able to hold 60 merits, so grouping might be a problem having to stop after every fight. Then you have to win the lot.
But whatever, head slot should be better I think for more seasoned players. Body is just too competitive.
By tallica 2026-07-10 23:51:23
So the bodies are "catch up" items but it'll take you weeks or months to get them? Wtf is SE doing. I've seen two bodies in less than or around 15 fights.
Seems you have had better luck then others and I'm assuming that's on VD? And I'd argue that's still too low for intended purpose of new player gearing. They aren't going to be able to hold 60 merits, so grouping might be a problem having to stop after every fight. Then you have to win the lot.
But whatever, head slot should be better I think for more seasoned players. Body is just too competitive. Ya, VD.
I was surprised to see it's rare.
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