H2H From C To A.... Seriously? Oo

PUP will not become useful

With adjustments to attributes of the Harlequin and Valoredge X-900 frames and the performance of attachments, automatons will be made more durable against incapacitation. In addition, the hand-to-hand combat rating of puppetmasters will be raised from rank C to A, making them formidable combatants in their own right.

"PUP will not become useful"
***.

"MNK has DD abilities"
What, focus? W/ pizza, that's not even going to make much of a diff on almost anything.

Focus yes, and most people don't have the inventory space to use Pizza on EVERYTHING.

"MNK has more Attk/Acc/STR gear"
Full usu for both yo, same stats, only exception would be what, cape?

lol@someone thinking Full USU is plausible for the average player. Salvage may not be hard but the body's material cost alone is enough for some people to consider it hard/impossible to get.

"MNK can reach haste cap
PUP cannot"
If you want to be technical, neither job can if you want to exclude /drg, if not excluding /drg, both jobs can.

Eh, 0.6 w.e

You also forgot to mention the automaton, which honestly can do easily do the diff bewteen a few points of haste, martial arts, and a bit of acc/attack.

<.< On Diabolos fights that's a different story... because thats what everyone plays for... isnt it?

Dont get me wrong im very happy with going from hand to hand C to A that was long over due but wheres my blm puppet Thunder IV xD SE stop holding my puppet back! and for all u that lol @ pup look like us pups will be lol'n now! Puppetmaster Power!

Dont get me wrong im very happy with going from hand to hand C to A that was long over due but wheres my blm puppet Thunder IV xD SE stop holding my puppet back! and for all u that lol @ pup look like us pups will be lol'n now! Puppetmaster Power!

Arguing about what jobs can reach the haste cap or has the best DD gear is valid, but not for much longer.

But as I see it, a top flight MNK and top flight PUP wear virtually the same TP and WS gear.

A top flight MNK and top flight PUP (outside of relic/mythic) wear exactly the same weapons (Shenlong's).

So the difference comes down to, a few JAs vs an automaton... No contest really.

But SE have promised more job changes so that jobs don't lose their niche, so maybe they that will help MNK out

Sahagin, when we swap servers, I may finally be able to get that ZNM shell rolling! :D

On topic: leveling PUP, brb

I like to think my Oberion's augments are pretty awesome.(I took a screenshot and everything!)
I'm more interested in the changes they're making to the Valoredge frame, it's my favourite! :O

Just mathed them out. They're pretty good. Edge out over nq hades, right under waghs but not enough to swap, then you get the pet dmg and stun. Good deal. Too bad no DMG , would have won by a much larger margin

But like I said before, really interested to see what they do with the Automatons, I really like the Harly AI and I use the Valoredge frame pretty much all the time, Hoping they don't break anything.
Kinda hoping they'd fix the priority of -na spells over everything else on the Soulsoother.