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Random Politics & Religion #05
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-05-26 09:11:45
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Actually Hitler hijacked the socialist party but completely shed everything that made it so. It was socialist only in name.
I love when the far left commits genocide they just say "Hey he wasn't really one of us." (repeatedly all through modern history. over and over again, far-left genocide.) That would be the communists. Hitler was far right. Get a better education.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-05-26 09:12:13
Saying bs like usual I see. When have I ever justified violence on this forum?
Ever.
Anyone can tell you're full of it from that statement alone.
You excused these violent mobs of raging liberals as people simply rebelling against oppressive policies.
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By Jassik 2016-05-26 09:12:22
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Just come here to say that liberals are bad and whatever is happening, be it riots or girls with dangly bits using the women's restroom, it's probably their fault.
If you're a liberal, you are literally figuratively literally Hitler.
Yeah even when calling them out for assaulting people, putting police officers in hospitals and starting fires because they don't like what they heard someone said; it's just me picking on liberals.
If you expanded your argument beyond "Liberals!!", you might have a leg to stand on.
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-05-26 09:12:45
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Saying bs like usual I see. When have I ever justified violence on this forum?
Ever.
Anyone can tell you're full of it from that statement alone.
You excused these violent mobs of raging liberals as people simply rebelling against oppressive policies. No I haven't.
You will never, ever find a single quote where I condone violence.
Stop spewing ***.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-05-26 09:13:00
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Actually Hitler hijacked the socialist party but completely shed everything that made it so. It was socialist only in name.
I love when the far left commits genocide they just say "Hey he wasn't really one of us." (repeatedly all through modern history. over and over again, far-left genocide.) That would be the communists. Hitler was far right. Get a better education.
Wrap yourself up in that lie like a warm, cozy blanket.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-05-26 09:14:37
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Just come here to say that liberals are bad and whatever is happening, be it riots or girls with dangly bits using the women's restroom, it's probably their fault.
If you're a liberal, you are literally figuratively literally Hitler.
Yeah even when calling them out for assaulting people, putting police officers in hospitals and starting fires because they don't like what they heard someone said; it's just me picking on liberals.
If you expanded your argument beyond "Liberals!!", you might have a leg to stand on.
One day, Jassik gave Aman advice. Not a *** was given that day.
[Mod Edit: Corrected spelling so profanity is caught by filter. - AnnaMolly]
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-05-26 09:14:47
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Yeah gotta hate when people rebel against politicians with oppressive policies.
What do they think they have rights?!?
Justifying hate, violence and intimidation. Awesome, Seha.
If I see a crowd of Bernie or Hillary supporters I am justified to go kick the ***out of them all because I find their candidates' message to be divisive? I would.
By Jassik 2016-05-26 09:15:14
Never change, Aman, never change...
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-05-26 09:29:12
Protesters = the entirety of a group.
This coming from captain personal responsibility.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-05-26 09:30:13
When some hockey fans decide to riot, I'll remember that hockey... video games is why people behave this way. Not that they're belligerent fools.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-05-26 09:32:27
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »When some hockey fans decide to riot, I'll remember that hockey... video games is why people behave this way. Not that they're belligerent fools. In Europe they act that way because soccer.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-05-26 09:37:12
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
One day, Jassik gave Aman advice. Not a *** was given that day.
[Mod Edit: Corrected spelling so profanity is caught by filter. - AnnaMolly]
What is this crap now?
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-05-26 09:38:21
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Protesters = the entirety of a group.
This coming from captain personal responsibility.
Does logic cause you physical pain soothed only by the tender caress of a Strawman?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-05-26 09:39:29
Actually Hitler hijacked the socialist party but completely shed everything that made it so. It was socialist only in name. Actually there were still many socialist elements in the third reich through the start of the war.
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »When some hockey fans decide to riot, I'll remember that hockey... video games is why people behave this way. Not that they're belligerent fools. In Europe they act that way because soccer. I have always why American sports fans think they are real fans when compared to European soccer hooligans who are willing to kill and die for their "beautiful game."
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-05-26 09:50:24
Actually Hitler hijacked the socialist party but completely shed everything that made it so. It was socialist only in name. Actually there were still many socialist elements in the third reich through the start of the war. Quote: Not only was Hitler not a socialist himself, nor a communist, but he actually hated these ideologies and did his utmost to eradicate them.
When Hitler came to power he attempted to dismantle trade unions and the shell that remained loyal to him; he supported the actions of leading industrialists, actions far removed from socialism which tends to want the opposite. Hitler used the fear of socialism and communism as a way of terrifying middle and upper class Germans into supporting him. Workers were targeted with slightly different propaganda, but these were promises simply to earn support, to get into power, and then to remake the workers along with everyone else into a racial state. There was to be no dictatorship of the proletariat as in socialism; there was just to be the dictatorship of the Fuhrer.
The belief that Hitler was a socialist seems to have emerged from two sources: the name of his political party, the National Socialist German Worker’s Party, or Nazi Party, and the early presence of socialists in it.
Before 1934 some in the party did promote anti-capitalist and socialist ideas, such as profit-sharing, nationalization and old-age benefits, but these were merely tolerated by Hitler as he gathered support, dropped once he secured power and often later executed, such as Gregor Strasser. There was no socialist redistribution of wealth or land under Hitler – although some property changed hands thanks to looting and invasion - and while both industrialists and workers were courted, it was the former who benefitted and the latter who found themselves the target of empty rhetoric. Indeed, Hitler became convinced that socialism was intimately connected to his even more long standing hatred - the Jews – and thus hated it even more. Socialists were the first to be locked up in concentration camps.
“As with other fascist ideologies and movements it subscribed to an ideology of national renewal, rebirth, and rejuvenation manifesting itself in extreme populist radical nationalism, militarism, and – in contradistinction to many other forms of fascism, extreme biological racism…the movement understood itself to be, and indeed was, a new form of political movement…the anti-Socialist, anti-liberal, and radical nationalist tenets of Nazi ideology applied particularly to the sentiments of a middle class disorientated by the domestic and international upheavals in the inter-war period.” (Neil Gregor, Nazism, Oxford, 2000 p 4-5.)
By Seha 2016-05-26 09:50:58
Ah *** I forgot spoilers are broken. I apologize, but I figured it was better spoilered. Whatever.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-05-26 09:51:32
I keep seeing people on here, Facebook, etc. saying that they would never condone violence when questioned about riots and such, but they're sure doing a crappy job of really condemning it until they're pressured to.
If I see a sports riot that gets people injured/killed, my first response would be "That's stupid and terrible," not "Wow, bad call by that ref, am I right?.... Er, oh yeah, violence is bad too."
Lakshmi.Zerowone
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-05-26 09:52:06
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-05-26 09:53:07
but they're sure doing a crappy job of really condemning it I've done it many times and I was repeatedly belittled and mocked for being too peaceful.
From the same people who say I condone violence. I don't even.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-05-26 09:57:26
I keep seeing people on here, Facebook, etc. saying that they would never condone violence when questioned about riots and such, but they're sure doing a crappy job of really condemning it until they're pressured to.
If I see a sports riot that gets people injured/killed, my first response would be "That's stupid and terrible," not "Wow, bad call by that ref, am I right?.... Er, oh yeah, violence is bad too."
Yes, because you know my Facebook or what I say about idiots trying to 'stop Trump' with violence.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-05-26 10:00:36
What am I, a politician? I don't need anyone to pressure me into saying that rioting is stupid. Or how it happens.
This is the end result of making politics divisive and win/lose. You want polarizing politics then I hope you enjoy the US being like Carribbean / South American / Eastern European politics where people talk with their fists as the corruption mounts.
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Lakshmi.Zerowone
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-05-26 10:01:55
Quote: Defense is still using 8-inch floppy disks in a legacy system that coordinates the operational functions of the United States' nuclear forces
By Jetackuu 2016-05-26 10:07:24
Until the shuttle program was shut down they were still using 70's technology. It's what's compatible.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-05-26 10:07:35
8" floppy disks still rule our ICBM control systems....
/rolleyes
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-05-26 10:10:03
2 pages of Aman shitposting, awesome.
Mods, can I get a review of this post? It seems to be yet another clear violation.
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Siren.Mosin
By Siren.Mosin 2016-05-26 10:10:50
also, call the wahbulance.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-05-26 10:11:04
8" floppy disks still rule our ICBM control systems....
/rolleyes
Lakshmi.Zerowone
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-05-26 10:14:54
Until the shuttle program was shut down they were still using 70's technology. It's what's compatible.
The architecture is outdated nobody is taught the languages formally. Oldest I was formally taught was Pascal. Cobol and Fortran I picked up from grandfather.
Social Security had to rehire retirees because nobody coming in knew COBOL.
Department of Treasury is using a machine from the 50's to run the individual master file. That's the authoritative dats source for taxpayer account information
Antiquated Bureaucracy...
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-05-26 10:17:46
I like this game:
Their systems are so antiquated that they launch missiles with Atari!
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