DRK/MNK Caladbolg Tanking?

Protection? What the hell are you talking about? Please for gods sake dont tell me your LS forces your MNKs to go MNK/NIN to events for NMs and if you do my only question is why..............?

there is no TP move in the game that can one shot a DD anymore

I mean seriously are all of you that much of bandwagon players that you all just refuse to play the Jobs you like because its inferior to others?.

Also no *** ***DRK/SAM is better for DD purposes im talking a tanks propsective. DRK/SAM is honestly only liable for an Apoc DRK to pull off because you constantly heal yourself with Cata but even then apoc is kinda garbage at the moment which we all know.

Just throwing this out there, but /mnk sounds awesome for drk. No idea why people are thrashing it. You lose 5% from merits and 10% from gaiters, and if roaring laughter if 15%, you lose 1 atma and keep the same counter rate as mnk. /shrug.

DRK could tank anything at 75. The introduction of Counterstance is nothing to cream your pants over and is only part of the reason MNK is such a potent job inside Abyssea. You don't see WARs running around subbing MNK.

/MNK counterstance has already been tested and found to be the same ~40% it is for MNK main. The difference is you don't get the 10% from Melee Gaiters or the 5%, and 5% from Usu hands, and you give up better DRK atmas if you take GH and Roaring Laughter to try and buff it.

I'm not quite sure why you're now worried about mitigating damage after just saying MP is limitless, Cure V is hateless and HP is too high to be OHKO'd by anything, but /SAM will be better for you than /MNK will because melee hits are lol and Third Eye works on TP moves, on top of dropping your x-hit and giving you Hasso. (Nice 8-hit for your Caladbolg bro)

For all the ***talking you did in your previous post I find it hilarious you think the prospect of letting a DRK/SAM tank anything is insane. Perhaps it's your shell that blows chunks.

People need to learn to rub their brain cells together before they open their mouths and spew ***all over the forums. Just because you think it'd be awesome doesn't make it awesome, nor does it make you the first person to think of it or try it.

FYI, it's viable, not liable.

And finally, why do you need to finish Caladbolg to test DRK/MNK?

EDIT: Roaring Laughter comes from doing the Dominion Ops in whatever zone Zazarg is in I believe. I think the actual requirements are a little hazy at the moment but that's the gist of how to get it. I believe it's counter +10

I wasnt gonna post anymore but seriously.

MNKs have 50 Defense during counter Stance.

How are you gonna argue defense? Seriously? Are you honestly trying to argue that? Really?

DRK is built and designed to take hits just as good as a PLD, I dont get this common misconception that DRK is a squishy job.

LOL LOL drk was designed to take hits as good as pld? 1) pld AF3 says hi.. 2) shield def bonus says hi 3) tons more hp and vit say hi...

ok and yes i am arguing def...here is why... mnk has soooooooo much more hp, that it doesn't matter if they take 1-2 hits while trying to blink back up because they won't get brutally *** raped due to very high hp.. 4) perfect counter says hi... a mnk's def doesn't mean much when they use perfect counter to get ichi/ni back up.. along with stacking all the counter gear they can, it gets a lot better counter % than /mnk.... lulz Gradd... lulz

The gear you have listed is an eight hit, 7 hit subbing SAM, which is irrelevant as you're hellbent on subbing MNK.

As far as my sub goes, lol. Perhaps the last time I played I was in Salvage? Perhaps you didn't notice but my main is underlevelled too, and I just couldn't be bothered to level NIN again (or any subs really). Regardless, the level of my support job has nothing to do with my ability to think logically.

If you're going to try and argue reading comprehension you should practice it yourself. I never asked why you were finishing Caladbolg before trying to /MNK, I asked why you needed one to do so. Anyone here could have gone out and parsed it for you, an Empyrean is not required. Or you could have looked a little harder than asking your linkshell to find the answer yourself.

However, this has already devolved into attacking people to pull attention away from the argument you have nothing to contribute to, so I think I'll leave you to brood.

EDIT...: DRK is on all of PLD's PDT gear (barring AF3), DRK has the second highest VIT score (tied with PLD I believe, second to MNK). DRK has a larger HP pool than PLD. Shield defense bonus is lol.

Second Edit: rofl, you use a sTP atma to get your six hit. This argument is over.

People still play DRK?

lol i didn't say RR was ***... i said it wasn't the best for non-crit WS jobs... total misinterpretation..

anyways... yes i realize pld isn't the best tank job and hasn't been for awhile... but the fact that shield blocks help with spell interrupts while also mitigating damage IS something..though not a whole hell of a lot..same thing with the vit.. its not much but its SOMETHING....

and the reason mnks go /nin is for TP moves that heavily reduce hp but don't necessarily wipe shadows to make sure they don't die.. prime example, and the first one I can think of is Reseph's TP move that brings everybody to 1HP. perfect counter would help, but a bad double att proc and they would be toast... perfect counter + ni or ichi would save them long enough to get healed... again just my personal experience..

people still see your lame posts?

...wat?

You usually /nin on drk, which makes a DEF/VIT build useless. PDT when your shadows are down is much more effective. If you /sam and TE is down (and everything else), switch to PDT.

and the reason mnks go /nin is for TP moves that heavily reduce hp but don't necessarily wipe shadows to make sure they don't die.. prime example, and the first one I can think of is Reseph's TP move that brings everybody to 1HP. perfect counter would help, but a bad double att proc and they would be toast... perfect counter + ni or ichi would save them long enough to get healed... again just my personal experience..

I guess I was just thinking about the idea of a DRK DEF build combined with the heavy VIT mod on Torcleaver and wondering if this was something worth thinking about, since I don't know if things like VIT and DEF even matter for tanks these days when you have crazy EVA or Counter stuff going on.

I've heard of DRK being a very respectable tank but I've never experienced it myself. We have some tricks up our sleeve with drains, spikes, and stuns but I've never been able to stand against anything serious on DRK.

So basically, could DRK become a tank with stuns and high WS numbers?

Edit: Just read up a few posts and it looks like VIT is worthless for tanking, idea ended.
Edit2: I guess I understand it since DRK has been shafted so hard, but damn people are hostile here. Just a game doods, have fun with it.

DRK/MNK is a cool option tbh, you get a HP boost along with counterstance; could do some damanage.

Just finished the weapon last night and did dynamis xarcabard. Was very very impressed with the weapon. The damage seems to be alot more consistent than what I would expect. One thing I noted is that attack does play a big part to the damage, which is reasonable considering there is no ratio bonus. My average WS was about double what everyone else was doing. Quietus in comparison is really mediocre as my LS mate was sporting the scythe during the run.

Now time to get Twilight helm..... I can brew about 9 times but knowing my luck, I am probably going to lose lot to those who help proc blue.

Still debating what is the best hands to use.

a pld gonna shield block? fairly certain its a higher rate when the pld's shadows are down...

I just finished stage one and getting ready to hit the CC spam. Any estimate on the ODD proc rate?

The more I mess with this the more I am excited about finishing it.