Armageddon Vs. Gandiva

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Armageddon Vs. Gandiva
 Phoenix.Dramatica
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-02-17 04:23:39  
Yes it does.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-02-17 04:25:54  
Asura.Vrytreya said: »
Melee mythic WS pseudo multi-hit doesn't proc in WS either, does it?

Melee mythics AM3 can proc on ws
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By Odin.Upbeat 2012-02-17 04:27:11  
Asura.Vrytreya said: »
Melee mythic WS pseudo multi-hit doesn't proc in WS either, does it?
I've heard it does by numerous people, but never looked for myself. I can go check.
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By Valefor.Rancor 2012-02-17 04:39:42  
Due to how Arma is calculated it will do more damage as soon as you get WS, (if you dont want to be dropping millions of gil on amo for high damage ws) It also seems to be an optimal choise (untill nerf which will come some day) on most mobs due to the magic damage aspect. This makes it have a wider range of uses over all as the game stands now.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-17 04:46:06  
did you try it with last stand? since trueflight is magical i didnt expect it to proc, but sad hoho is still sad :<

if not, time to petition to SE and say somethings borked!

and get promptly ignored
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By Odin.Upbeat 2012-02-17 04:56:09  
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
did you try it with last stand? since trueflight is magical i didnt expect it to proc, but sad hoho is still sad :<

if not, time to petition to SE and say somethings borked!

and get promptly ignored
I tried with Slug shot:

Same results =/
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-17 04:57:19  
well *** you se too.
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By Bismarck.Funstealer 2012-02-17 11:40:27  
*** it get all 4 Yoichinoyumi/Annihilator/Gandiva/Armageddon

like a boss
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By Quetzalcoatl.Seveth 2012-02-17 13:06:29  
Odin.Upbeat said: »
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
did you try it with last stand? since trueflight is magical i didnt expect it to proc, but sad hoho is still sad :<

if not, time to petition to SE and say somethings borked!

and get promptly ignored
I tried with Slug shot:

Same results =/

That's so disappointing.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-02-17 13:27:28  
Did you trade alexandrites in already? If not, I'd seriously consider doing a different weapon. Nothing is looking good for crossbow really. :/
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By Siren.Kyte 2012-02-17 13:50:10  
Agrees with this person. However, he isn't clear on whether or not it ever worked.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-17 14:30:09  
Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
Did you trade alexandrites in already? If not, I'd seriously consider doing a different weapon. Nothing is looking good for crossbow really. :/

its doesnt matter, you have to choose a weapon to start redoing assaults and you're locked in then.
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By Odin.Upbeat 2012-02-17 19:35:04  
I just tried Death Penalty, It's the same thing, no AM3 2/3x damage on WSs.

I was hoping maybe Death Penalty worked so we knew if X-bow was borked or not.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-02-17 19:40:47  
Odin.Upbeat said: »
Asura.Vrytreya said: »
Melee mythic WS pseudo multi-hit doesn't proc in WS either, does it?
I've heard it does by numerous people, but never looked for myself. I can go check.
It definitely does, but it can only proc once on WS.
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2012-08-20 18:38:00  
Question isn't Which to get, question is: Who gonna help you ? :P

Cuz u gotta get both !

Armageddon is a gun

Gandiva is a Bow

you can't compare them , is like saying GALKA and a Tarut

XD

either way, RNG uses both gun and bow so that might be a nice investment to get both, so u got top 2 weapons dmg wise for rng :D

GL
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mavix 2012-08-20 18:40:47  
>.>
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By Sylph.Binckry 2012-08-20 18:45:26  
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Kurogarbage
It's been 185 days, no one cur
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-08-20 18:55:20  
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Question isn't Which to get, question is: Who gonna help you ? :P

Cuz u gotta get both !

Armageddon is a gun

Gandiva is a Bow

you can't compare them , is like saying GALKA and a Tarut

XD

either way, RNG uses both gun and bow so that might be a nice investment to get both, so u got top 2 weapons dmg wise for rng :D

GL

RNG does not use both gun and bow; they use gun OR bow; logically speaking, there is a big difference. To not compare a comparison (gun OR bow) is utterly ridiculous.
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2012-08-21 10:30:20  
You haven't seen low enmity until you've ridden Anni's AM and Gnostic's drink.
I have both Arma and Anni and I can say there's a huge difference in hate generation as I pull hate much faster with Arma. If hate isn't a concern then sure do what you will (because i know this is the case most of the time).
The only reason I would ever make Gandiva is for procing Archery in VW because the utility of Arma is just too good. Some fights need WF (Bismark etc) and some fights LS will shine- Arma can do both.

I personally just use Anni for fights that support LS and Arma for fights that support WF.
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2012-08-21 10:48:17  
I don't know about you guys, but I dual wield my Annihilator and Armageddon.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-08-21 10:51:37  
Asura.Hotsoups said: »
I don't know about you guys, but I dual wield my Annihilator and Armageddon.

Please tell me you do it Rocco Style a la Boondock Saints.

"Wyatt F***ing Earp!"
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2012-08-21 10:53:13  
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Asura.Hotsoups said: »
I don't know about you guys, but I dual wield my Annihilator and Armageddon.

Please tell me you do it Rocco Style a la Boondock Saints.

"Wyatt F***ing Earp!"

Willem Dafoe - "We got ourselves a cowboy."
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2012-08-21 11:02:19  
Asura.Hotsoups said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Asura.Hotsoups said: »
I don't know about you guys, but I dual wield my Annihilator and Armageddon.

Please tell me you do it Rocco Style a la Boondock Saints.

"Wyatt F***ing Earp!"

Willem Dafoe - "We got ourselves a cowboy."

LOL WTF >.>
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By Snoctopus 2012-08-21 12:07:56  
@Kuroganashi

This is a game of math, so not only can you compare gun and bow, you can compare the differences between a taru and a galka as well.

Woe be it to anyone that ever takes your advice on anything, seeing as t was you that told me to ditch my Chatoyant staff in favor of an Acinaces, which you claimed was "the best weapon for cor".
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2012-08-22 11:10:05  
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@Kuroganashi

This is a game of math, so not only can you compare gun and bow, you can compare the differences between a taru and a galka as well.

Woe be it to anyone that ever takes your advice on anything, seeing as t was you that told me to ditch my Chatoyant staff in favor of an Acinaces, which you claimed was "the best weapon for cor".

Numbers mean nothing. It's all about the looks.
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2012-08-22 13:23:18  
Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
Snoctopus said: »
@Kuroganashi

This is a game of math, so not only can you compare gun and bow, you can compare the differences between a taru and a galka as well.

Woe be it to anyone that ever takes your advice on anything, seeing as t was you that told me to ditch my Chatoyant staff in favor of an Acinaces, which you claimed was "the best weapon for cor".

Numbers mean nothing. It's all about the looks.

That's what dat swaps are for ;D
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2012-08-24 23:37:34  
Just make both, they're easy.

Though if gil is a factor, good arrows will run you considerably less than good bullets on most servers. I still say make both and just use whichever you prefer for a given scenario.

And dat swaps dont work for Sexandiva over Aluminumfoilandcardboardtube-mageddon.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-08-30 08:49:41  
Sylph.Mirvana said: »
Just make both, they're easy. Though if gil is a factor, good arrows will run you considerably less than good bullets on most servers. I still say make both and just use whichever you prefer for a given scenario. And dat swaps dont work for Sexandiva over Aluminumfoilandcardboardtube-mageddon.

You can totally .dat swap them. I used to have Arma .dat swapped for a Hexagun until and update reverted it to ugly-as-***-mageddon.
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2012-09-01 05:23:52  
I mean that you can't put Gandiva's sexy piece of *** on top of Arma. It looks like the 1-string Harp-of-DOOM!!
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2012-09-01 05:57:02  

I don't know what you guys are talking about, Armageddon looks pretty sexy to me.