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Tachi: Shoha
Bahamut.Atoreis
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By Bahamut.Atoreis 2011-12-30 15:45:05
Sure
Me MNK
Jun THF
Przyajciel WHM
Ragni SAM
Only buff were hasso and berserk
EDIT: and RCB (sorry Ragni pointed that out just now, for me its like 100% obvious XD )
Ragnarok.Nekonarf
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2011-12-31 07:50:55
does he WS with Mala on? if so that could be the reason for the spike, quadruple attacking one of the hits, either way very nice damage :D
Bahamut.Ragni
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By Bahamut.Ragni 2011-12-31 09:28:52
I dont have TA and QA in my ws set yet.
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2011-12-31 09:51:19
I dont have TA and QA in my ws set yet.
5500 seems possible with a 4hit Shoha. Thats the highest I've seen outside abyssea, well done.
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2011-12-31 10:03:23
Seems possible with just 2x double attack, considering Lv95 Amano, super luck on scoring highest pDIF on 4 hits (@2.72), 300 TP, ele gorget/belt, and overwhelm.
5440/5.85 (fTP @300+gorgetbelt)/2.72(max pDIF)/1.19(overwhelm) = 287
287-124(amano95 base damage)-21(fSTR cap) = 143 WSC
143/0.85(alpha) = 168 total STR.
so yeah..
Bahamut.Ragni
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By Bahamut.Ragni 2011-12-31 10:15:29
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2011-12-31 18:18:03
Ragnarok.Nekonarf
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2011-12-31 18:58:57
change the domaru +2 to twilight or ace's, +10 TP return on your WS isn't going to bump you up to super stardom in any parses, in fact it'll just hurt you overall.
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Phoenix.Pugnax
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By Phoenix.Pugnax 2011-12-31 19:07:49
Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: »change the domaru +2 to twilight or ace's, +10 TP return on your WS isn't going to bump you up to super stardom in any parses, in fact it'll just hurt you overall.
prob has more to do with the fact that when domaru+2 is augmented through ToM, it enhances overwhelm by 4% i think it was
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Bismarck.Aerison
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By Bismarck.Aerison 2011-12-31 19:10:11
Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: »change the domaru +2 to twilight or ace's, +10 TP return on your WS isn't going to bump you up to super stardom in any parses, in fact it'll just hurt you overall.
prob has more to do with the fact that when domaru+2 is augmented through ToM, it enhances overwhelm by 4% i think it was
orly?
Phoenix.Pugnax
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By Phoenix.Pugnax 2011-12-31 19:13:55
Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: »change the domaru +2 to twilight or ace's, +10 TP return on your WS isn't going to bump you up to super stardom in any parses, in fact it'll just hurt you overall.
prob has more to do with the fact that when domaru+2 is augmented through ToM, it enhances overwhelm by 4% i think it was
orly?
thought i read that in the test server findings thread on BG, if it isnt so, then inga was right and that is pretty damn HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and continue staring at the dancing banana mario avatar
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106679-Test-Server-Findings?p=4951856&viewfull=1#post4951856
was that post
Ragnarok.Darkpearl
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By Ragnarok.Darkpearl 2011-12-31 19:41:18
Even my sister with SAM lv 10 can make 5k dmg against a lolbrd mob...
EDIT: Ops [Sarcasm off] Forgot XD
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-31 19:46:49
Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: »change the domaru +2 to twilight or ace's, +10 TP return on your WS isn't going to bump you up to super stardom in any parses, in fact it'll just hurt you overall.
prob has more to do with the fact that when domaru+2 is augmented through ToM, it enhances overwhelm by 4% i think it was
orly?
thought i read that in the test server findings thread on BG, if it isnt so, then inga was right and that is pretty damn HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and continue staring at the dancing banana mario avatar
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106679-Test-Server-Findings?p=4951856&viewfull=1#post4951856
was that post 15 weaponskills for each set should say enough, though the test was certainly well-intended. Later testing determined that it instead adds 2 Save TP per Overwhelm merit. If you end up WSing from behind the mob, you get nothing.
Ragnarok.Darkpearl
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By Ragnarok.Darkpearl 2011-12-31 19:52:57
Anyway aside was joking, since I doesn't know what to merit in ws, does you guys suggest to merit shoha, or like me think better wait because might be gimp soon?
Bismarck.Aerison
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By Bismarck.Aerison 2011-12-31 19:54:42
Merits are hard to get.
Ragnarok.Darkpearl
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By Ragnarok.Darkpearl 2011-12-31 20:12:52
Nah isn't hard, but since I don't know what to merit, was wondering if shoha is a good choice. The problem is, I don't know, have a feeling will be gimp soon or later :x. Asking because wanted resurrect my SAM, after Abyssea killed it...
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By Shiva.Schatzie 2011-12-31 21:24:30
Ragnarok.Darkpearl said: »Nah isn't hard, but since I don't know what to merit, was wondering if shoha is a good choice. The problem is, I don't know, have a feeling will be gimp soon or later :x. Asking because wanted resurrect my SAM, after Abyssea killed it... merit shoha
my gimpurai is far from optimal, but i like what it can do.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/pol2011123114030640.png/
Ragnarok.Darkpearl
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By Ragnarok.Darkpearl 2011-12-31 21:43:30
Ragnarok.Darkpearl said: »Nah isn't hard, but since I don't know what to merit, was wondering if shoha is a good choice. The problem is, I don't know, have a feeling will be gimp soon or later :x. Asking because wanted resurrect my SAM, after Abyssea killed it... merit shoha
my gimpurai is far from optimal, but i like what it can do.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/pol2011123114030640.png/I'll think about it ^^.
I doesn't have Masamune, the only GK I have is Kikugosaku tho :X
Make another empy would be a suicide after finish Gandiva with OMGdoomguy (Bhukis) duo and Im pretty sure my friend would kill me XD.
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2011-12-31 21:46:23
Spectator takes 25% more damage IIRC (that or either have very low defense). My Last Stand can score better on it than worms in La Theine.
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By Shiva.Schatzie 2011-12-31 21:51:03
Ragnarok.Darkpearl said: »Ragnarok.Darkpearl said: »Nah isn't hard, but since I don't know what to merit, was wondering if shoha is a good choice. The problem is, I don't know, have a feeling will be gimp soon or later :x. Asking because wanted resurrect my SAM, after Abyssea killed it... merit shoha
my gimpurai is far from optimal, but i like what it can do.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/pol2011123114030640.png/I'll think about it ^^.
I doesn't have Masamune, the only GK I have is Kikugosaku tho :X
Make another empy would be a suicide after finish Gandiva with OMGdoomguy (Bhukis) duo and Im pretty sure my friend would kill me XD. TP bonus GK works just fine, and can be done within a day or two
as for the spheroids thing, im not aware of any of their stats, just hit that en route to a mech menace party z_z. also worms have considerably less hp than higher level monsters in other zones id think.
Ragnarok.Darkria
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By Ragnarok.Darkria 2011-12-31 23:18:58
A lot of people say this new weapon skill beats fudo. WS to WS yes it does, but remember what sam is the master of skillchains. Fudo makes light, if you time JA's right, you can pull off 4 light SC's in a row. So they are a great combo, fudo when JA's allow it and Shoha when they do not.
Bahamut.Serj
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-12-31 23:21:28
Because you're the only DD ever using ws ever on any mob ever, right?
Ragnarok.Darkria
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By Ragnarok.Darkria 2011-12-31 23:27:11
Because you're the only DD ever using ws ever on any mob ever, right?
can you say that in english?
Bahamut.Serj
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-12-31 23:29:09
Because you're the only DD ever using ws ever on any mob ever, right?
can you say that in english?
Skillchains are unreliable and not worth doing in any situation you aren't soloing.
Bahamut.Aeronis
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-12-31 23:30:33
Good luck self-skillchaining in Voidwatch anywho. I hardly can with my group when everyone is enjoying their Miser's Roll and Discipline atmacite.
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Ragnarok.Darkria
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By Ragnarok.Darkria 2011-12-31 23:36:18
Because you're the only DD ever using ws ever on any mob ever, right?
can you say that in english?
Skillchains are unreliable and not worth doing in any situation you aren't soloing.
LMAO wat? Skillchains are not worth it unless your soloing????????? Maybe pre lever cap, but welcome to the new FFXI. The word zerg comes up in VW, Abby, and other end game events a lot more than it use to. For you to tell a sam not to SC on a mob is just plan stupid unless you are in situation where you should not pull hate. It is called learning to play your job right. Judge the situation and listen! know when your tank has enough hate, or can get it back from you. But to tell a sam that SC should not be used unless soloing is like telling a war to main sword cause it does more damage.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-31 23:45:07
Did you just completely gloss over the words "not reliable"? "Not worth doing" is a functional result of one's inability to reliably self-skillchain in group play if your group members are playing with any degree of competence.
Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2011-12-31 23:54:53
In other words, I'm not going to stop using Exenterator every 4 seconds because you want to be cute and self-skillchain. Go back to 2006 maybe?
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-01-01 00:15:15
I used to read blus and sams "dont WS, i'm skill chaining" party macros as "I bet you can't get tp and WS in the next 4 seconds"
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-01-01 01:24:08
Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: »change the domaru +2 to twilight or ace's, +10 TP return on your WS isn't going to bump you up to super stardom in any parses, in fact it'll just hurt you overall.
Check the math on 10str vs WSing at 110tp. (save tp+10)
Doing 2-3k Outside abbysea and 4-5k inside, Outside im testing inside Dynamis...
Current TP set.
And WS.
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