Best Sub For PUP

I currently have MNK and WHM for subs, NIN doesn't fly with me. People tell me SCH is pretty good.

Your best DD sub would be War I'd imagine. I don't know any endgame subs since I never seen Pup endgame.

My WAR is 37 but I like the abilities I get from MNK better than WAR.

I like subbing DRG. Has the accuracy bonus traits, and with Jump and High Jump for TP gain+dmg/Enmity reduction for soloing. Also allows you to use the Wyvern Earring (5% Haste) which is pretty nice.

Alot of people chose to sub DRG over WAR because of the acc bonus and the earring. I personally don't like /WAR on it :3

subbing mnk after a certain time isnt that good...ull be better off with /war. /nin is also good for soloing. /drg is good too. /dnc as well.

Best sub for pup is /blm. That way you can cast warp and change to a better job.

Edit: Don't mind me, I was just getting in before lolpup

You dont even have it leveled lol.. /MNK is only good for lower levels(Martial Arts)/ERon burns(Cestus Belt for early Raging Fist).

I'd say for PT used: DRG > WAR
Solo use: DNC > DRG
Situations where you need shadows: NIN

Its Situation based...

Usually in PT situations where you are DD you wanna be /WAR, for martial art bonus

In Solo situation /DNC, /WHM, /NIN and /SCH

I personally dont have /SCH but alot of people love it when solo'n in sky.

/NIN is like anyjob /NIN situational

I didnt use /MNK past 20.

Most Pup will be /SCH, /DNC or /WAR

You dont have to have a job leveled to read and understand the abilities. Also my pup is 22 so i know a little about it. I also know that /mnk after 20 is (for the most part) useless compared to other subs.

/sch is mainly used with blm puppet, with sleep/nuke strat. Your sleep can lend less that 1sec after nuke.
With no resist, you can solo VT IT mobs that way, but any resist may end in death or very close.

/nin with eva set if u want solo tough things, or if you want awoid nasty aoe.

/rng for acc, i did use it while lvling pup in campaing, or for besieged.

/drk in case you need stun, but thats very depending on the mob you want fight.

/rdm for phalanx and barspell, very awsome to solo primes.

/war for dmg boost.

/dnc for usual fight,(I dont go much /dnc),but that can be an emergency cure (especially if your whm puppet gonna remove and enfeebling before cure you or if you are overloaded)

/drg for haste and jump, i dont have it lvled, so cant say much about it.

/mnk is pretty useless past 30ish, better have /war.

/blu and /whm, for the defense boost and the cure, i dont use them much.

/thf if u want some TH.

For party, /dnc for drain/aspir samba and extra cure can be good, /war for dmg. For solo, depend what you want do.

/mnk -> 25 party onry.
/war -> 75 party onry.
/nin -> Golden salvage assault, soloing.
/dnc -> soloing.
/sch -> Sleep/Nuke (I dont have SCH unlocked, but I heard is good from many.)
/thf -> Farming... duh

If you have the accuracy (heh..), /drg may be a viable option with a haste setup.

Anything else, dont waste your time. I hate seeing puppetmasters /whm, attempting to main heal. gtfo ><

So far as I know, PUP's only endgame application is the tier 1 ZNM, Ob. (I just went /NIN with WHM puppet and let everyone else *** demolish it.)

Whether /WAR or /DRG with what food is better in what situation people would need to crunch numbers to figure out.

I actually play the job, and your best bet is /MNK for both solo and party. With Soulsoother Head you can go /MNK and still be fine. /WAR is good, but not really needed.

PUP/PUP

It is its own subjob!

I'd love to see you out parse a pup/war in a pt then.

Who the hell invites a pup to a pt let alone 2 of them!?

pup/drg with max haste gear and haste on automation = god

Barring all comments about "lolpup" and that sort of thing, I just wanted to explain why /SCH is the best sub for solo.
A lot of people don't know this since SCH is still relatively new, but any job that subs SCH gets a B+ skill for all magic types effected by Light/Dark Arts. That simply means that a PUP/SCH for instance, would have 256 in the Enhancing, Healing, Enfeebling, and Divine magic with Light Arts up, and 256 Elemental, Enfeebling, and Dark skill with Dark Arts.

To that end, Ixion Cloak can be one of the best pieces in the game for soloing on PUP.

Really gives new meaning to all the mage gear PUP has been stuck with over the years, doesn't it? :P

Well, PUP/WAR will obviously have ATT Bonus trait, so naturally it would have a slight power boost than PUP/MNK.

i invite pups over many other jobs depending on what i have and what mobs im fighting.

is that power for the Master or for the Automaton?

It's for the master, considering Soulsoother already has A+ in all magic skills.

when I play PUP, I don't focus on magic, I focus on power. I let my Soulsoother do the magic.

whats that rng thing that the pup does? the ws? ive seen a pup with rng automaton pown the ***out of birds in a merit. 700 - 1k ws's from automaton plus pups dot and ws's can be awesome.

AcruBallista?

You're thinking of Armor Piercer. A good PUP can do 1.5k or so, enough to parse on par with some DDs.

didnt they gimp the range automation though...i remember my damage going from OMFG! to wtf....

ya that one. are those types of pups few and far between?

PUP is one of the most expensive jobs to play well, because you really need stuff like Toreador'sx2, Peacock Charm etc in order to hit with C- skill at 75. Plus some of the better attachments run for 300k+ each.
So to answer your question, yes, good PUPs are rare.