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H2H from C to A.... seriously? Oo
 Kujata.Segaia
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By Kujata.Segaia 2010-02-28 10:18:38
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[ Puppetmaster ]
With adjustments to attributes of the Harlequin and Valoredge X-900 frames and the performance of attachments, automatons will be made more durable against incapacitation. In addition, the hand-to-hand combat rating of puppetmasters will be raised from rank C to A, making them formidable combatants in their own right.
So much win Oo
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-28 10:20:40
May actually get to use my pup for something now.
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 Seraph.Aena
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By Seraph.Aena 2010-02-28 10:21:38
Oh niiice, I thought it was just the H2H being altered in the update, but a defensive Automaton buff of sorts for those two models sounds awesome!
By semimmortal 2010-02-28 10:24:27
So happy ; ;
Kujata.Segaia
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By Kujata.Segaia 2010-02-28 10:26:15
It is not game breaking.. but at least your not completly useless now when you automaton dies now. With this the overall dmg increases a lot, you dont have to go full acc gear now except for Stringing pummel... leaving you enough equip-space to actually increase your dmg over time.
Rly nice... hope they have some surprises on hold aswell. *attachementscough* *fixdefensecough*.
Oh yea the level of happiness is currently discribed by my avatar.
 Seraph.Chasuro
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By Seraph.Chasuro 2010-02-28 10:27:26
Yeah so quit yer bitching about how crappy PUP is!
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-28 10:28:54
Lol well I have 2 melee sets for my pup anyways, looks like I'll get use out of them both.
Head: Usu
Body: Usu
Hands: Usu
Legs: Usu
Feet: Usu
Head: Turban
Body: Goliard
Hands: Af2
Legs: Usu
Feet: Usu
Kujata.Segaia
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By Kujata.Segaia 2010-02-28 10:46:42
Seraph.Chasuro said: Yeah so quit yer bitching about how crappy PUP is!
i have a feeling MNKs wont like this lol.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-28 10:48:30
mnk main, doesn't rly bother me. Mnk usually always get shafted anyways, used to it by now. Also, I have pup, so that may be why, lol. Funny though, w/ the augmented h2h, pup getting more h2h skill than mnk.
Kujata.Segaia
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By Kujata.Segaia 2010-02-28 10:52:19
I never had a problem with punching out dmg on pup rly, of course ppl think that 99% of the damage depends on your spikes on colibris... *cough*
But rly tbh.. if you now compare it to a MNK... we would have an A in h2h and additionally a pet that can blast out high tier nukes/Armorpiercer? It sounds a bit unfair at this point to me. Nonetheless - who cares.
By semimmortal 2010-02-28 11:00:09
I think it was discussed many times before in a PUP thread, but would equipping the Cestus Belt be any benefit now after the update? (at 75 or beyond) And if it does, when would it be good to use?
Sorry, I'm pretty noob when it comes to game mechanics...
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-28 11:02:53
No, not even close. 4-5 acc, 5 attack, possibly 1 DMG. Anything w/ haste beats it for TP, would be equal to virtuoso for WS if acc capped and no DMG+, but lose if got DMG+ and acc wasn't capped.
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By Kujata.Segaia 2010-02-28 11:04:29
vegetto... your avatar is awesome lol.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-28 11:06:37
ty
By semimmortal 2010-02-28 11:11:30
Fairy.Vegetto said: No, not even close. 4-5 acc, 5 attack, possibly 1 DMG. Anything w/ haste beats it for TP, would be equal to virtuoso for WS if acc capped and no DMG , but lose if got DMG and acc wasn't capped. Yeah, TP wise, I know it's definitely not it XD
Maybe it's because I'm poorly equipped on my PUP and hardly use it before this update, but I think my best waist slot was a life belt (acc acc acc!).
Seeing that we're getting a skill of A, I wouldn't be surprised to see our acc cap pretty easily with food.
That's why I brought up this belt from the grave :P
But a small derail, got any waist items you recommend?
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-28 11:12:45
Swift belt, headlong belt if can't get swift. For ws, Virtuoso belt.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-02-28 11:13:00
Pup gets Blackbelt in the update so just get that.
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By semimmortal 2010-02-28 11:14:02
For my WS waist, forgot to mention that ><
Thanks!
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-02-28 11:14:25
He really likes chicken. The actor in the avatar was paid very well to act out my favorite stereotype about black people.
He has no shame.
Almost as good as how hard I lol'd about the tipped over watermelon truck and the little black boy with tears streaming down his face at the sight.
By semimmortal 2010-02-28 11:14:25
Fairy.Vegetto said: Swift belt, headlong belt if can't get swift. For ws, Virtuoso belt. Opps, spoke too soon, thanks!
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By Valefor.Woodman 2010-02-28 12:21:21
lolMNK
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-02-28 12:38:37
Bahamut.Kaioshin said: He really likes chicken. The actor in the avatar was paid very well to act out my favorite stereotype about black people. He has no shame. Almost as good as how hard I lol'd about the tipped over watermelon truck and the little black boy with tears streaming down his face at the sight.
omg i need to see this!!
 Bismarck.Awezomeos
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By Bismarck.Awezomeos 2010-02-28 12:42:19
Finally
Now its LOLMONK no longer LOLPUP.;)
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By Remora.Simplydark 2010-02-28 13:33:42
Honestly, I'm extremely upset with this. I'm a mnk and now going to reach level 99 is going to be tough because if pup has an A with h2h and also having an automaton will make the party faster and more of a DD from pup than mnk.
I is depressed :/
Valefor.Madranta
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By Valefor.Madranta 2010-03-01 02:23:49
I really hope they have some changes planned for Monk... My main has been Monk from the time I started playing this game. I thought giving PUPs Stringing Pummel as an Asuran Fists equivalent was reasonable. Upping PUP H2H skill to B rank might even be OK... But this seems to make Monk useless compared to PUP. Sure we have some better gear selection but PUPs can use Usukane so their top gear (before new level cap increase comes into play) is equal to Monk's.
Here's hoping they have yet to announce some changes coming for Monk.
 Shiva.Wynter
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By Shiva.Wynter 2010-03-01 02:29:13
I think its about time!! I will now finish PUP its been stuck at 70 for ages, only got it to 71 the other day. I got slapped once for being a PUP by some Galka when i was running through Quifim....what a tart.
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By Asura.Artemicion 2010-03-01 02:30:39
I thought B skill cap would be a worthy compromise considering the automaton's addition in damage/support. By the same logic SE applied here, COR should get A skill cap in marksmanship too.
 Sylph.Sindri
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By Sylph.Sindri 2010-03-01 02:33:42
Not going to bother reading previous posts. Here are some facts because I've heard a lot of talk on this:
PUP will become more powerful
MNK will not
PUP is not now used in end-game for anything but ZNMs regularly
MNK is not now used in end-game for anything but Sky regularly
MNK has 6 tiers of Martial Arts
PUP does not
MNK can reach haste cap
PUP cannot
MNK has more Attk/Acc/STR gear
PUP does not
MNK has DD abilities
PUP does not
MNK already had A Skill
PUP did not
MNK will not become obsolete
PUP will not become useful
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By Remora.Morbidthrasher 2010-03-01 02:34:53
Remora.Simplydark said: Honestly, I'm extremely upset with this. I'm a mnk and now going to reach level 99 is going to be tough because if pup has an A with h2h and also having an automaton will make the party faster and more of a DD from pup than mnk.
I is depressed :/
Leo, you paid 5 *** million gil for that god damn turtle egg. You let a pup replace you and I will ***in your cup of noodles.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-03-01 02:37:31
"PUP will not become useful"
***.
"MNK has DD abilities"
What, focus? W/ pizza, that's not even going to make much of a diff on almost anything.
"MNK has more Attk/Acc/STR gear"
Full usu for both yo, same stats, only exception would be what, cape?
"MNK can reach haste cap
PUP cannot"
If you want to be technical, neither job can if you want to exclude /drg, if not excluding /drg, both jobs can.
You also forgot to mention the automaton, which honestly can do easily do the diff bewteen a few points of haste, martial arts, and a bit of acc/attack.
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Quote:
[ Puppetmaster ]
With adjustments to attributes of the Harlequin and Valoredge X-900 frames and the performance of attachments, automatons will be made more durable against incapacitation. In addition, the hand-to-hand combat rating of puppetmasters will be raised from rank C to A, making them formidable combatants in their own right.
So much win Oo
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