Petition - Make Entropy Stronger

Even with your formula, your numbers don't add up.

By inconsequential amounts related to dumping sub 0.1% chances and perhaps typo'ing 0.94 in one of the cases, I think 7 hits. Can't be assed because none of that changes the result.

(0.95*(7*(0.95^6*(1-0.95)^1)))

Doesn't equal 28%.

Even with your formula, your 8 hit is behind.


5.39 for your 8 hit vs 5.55 for the 4 hit.

Thats because you're missing the second block of those that adds in the occurrence of the first hit missing to each case (the leading 0.95 isn't all of it, it's pretty much the whole thing added again but inverted and makes no sense the first time you look at it. I chopped them off so I would only have to change half as many numbers, like 64 of them by hand, since this was coming from the same thing done with Guillotine),

If you were to iterate all of those they'd only add up to ~91% but they're still fine for estimates, and you're still doing the 4-hit wrong or just outright lying about it now. Even using the 24% chance of 7 hits (I did typo 0.94 on it) and just letting the percentage slide low (so now you're still saying the whole WS misses 9% of the time) the eight hit WS still comes out ahead.

Actually, no I know what the confusion is. I used 1 fTP for 3 hits on the 4 hit instead of .75.

I didn't realize that you had been doing that this entire time, that explains a lot more. I was under the impression Proth suggested it be a normal 4 hit with 3 fTP, not one of the new ones with fTP spread across all hits.

In that case I got 4.88 average for the 4 hit.

Don't use the same percentages for his WS. His chance of four hits is 81.5% and three hits is ~17.5%, 1% for two or less.

Any really ancient DRK will know these by heart. This was the crux of DRK and Guillotine for years.

I didn't use any of his numbers, except the 3+1+1+1 fTP not 3+.75+.75+.75 like you are doing, which is where a lot of confusion was I think.

Anyway, aside from my general doubt it was just hilariously dumb luck in the numbers picked that my WS averaged higher than his best case WS in the end. It's strange how people will believe one thing or another without actually checking first. Even if his did average higher I'd still rather have the higher spike damage potential because Quietus and/or Torcleaver is the WS for consistency and hard targets and not every fight is longer than 60 seconds (rare few are, actually).

As if SE would give it a first hit fTP higher than the whole of Quietus. At least my eight hit proposal makes a little sense in implementation: hits twice per swing. Both are crazy ideas anyway.

They should make Entropy's damage continuously increase.

/physicsjoke

If you can't discuss things in a civil manner without tossing insults back and forth, don't post.

this is all my primitive mind is taking away from this thread...

Just do something simple like add MAB as well as INT to WS modifier.

Or just bump FTP up a smidge.

Or give it a useful debuff like plague (cough Suzaku punch cough).


However I fear its probably to late and I'll just be spamming Catastrophe in PvE forever.

wouldent Prothescar's 4 hit come out ahead when u factor in double/triple att procs?

New WS isn't even out and DRKs already Q_Q about it. All is as it should be.

I'm surprised Urteil didn't make this thread!

Yes, because when something is being tested there is no expectation that it might change.

awe, no one has posted any actual damage numbers yet?

They've been posted in other threads... like the one about the new gs ws. I'd repost but ehh.. seems to range from around a low 1k - 2.2 ,2.4k

Um that´s why it is called Test server to test new things and give feedback...

Officially it's called a test server, but from what has been shown on SE's part it really is more of a preview server than anything.

From the dev comments I've seen they rarely take into account what we think, at least NA.

Or from another angle, make the damage gradually more inconsistent.

have they ever? just prepare to be railed per usual.

JP seem kinda stupid about some things. Like they seem content with shitty weaponskills/job abilities. I don't know why. I mean a few crappy things made it through testing when other communities obviously did testing. S/E would take JPs word for something instead of tons of parsing and testing at BG/FFXIAH.

I seen alot of weird crap though, weird gear combos and stuff..


They didn't seem to complain at all about tactical parry, Scarlet Derp,

Who needs good gear/abilities/WS's when you have a JPButton.

I read most of page 1 and skimmed the rest but I wanna make sure I get this right. I don't go to the official forums because I see a lot of players who seem..... set back. You know the kind of player who wishes there was a game genie for FFXI and that fully upgraded relics dropped from forest hares (or 10k damage ws was meritable)?

We are getting a ws that performs close to if not on par with CATA and gives MP back, even from enemies that dont have mp... and you are upset about that?

Just checking.

*edit* double post derp

Upset isn't the correct terminology, unsatisfied is closer to what it is. Never really been into GS on drk, I have skilled it and kept one but always loved swingin ma scythe... the pairing of this and resolution almost makes scythe a silly choice for those that don't have an apoc. Being a drk yourself I would think you would be aware of this issue among the many other faults with drk atm but no sense wasting time on that now is there.